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hellava_tough

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You are amazing.

I just find the level of bed wetting going on right now alarming. The teams we are likely to field over our coming five league fixture are still better man fit man than every opposition player they will come up against. Excepting maybe Jamie Vardy, I can’t think of a single opposition player in the coming fixtures who would improve even our depleted xi, yes this place is apoplectic with fear.

Yeah, agree with you on that.

I mean, if you were a Fulham fan and your club had put together the 18-man squad that we'll be taking to Craven Cottage today, you'd be over the moon.

As long as our players believe in their ability, then we'll be fine.
 

Noryid

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Wise words from the man himself.. (y)(y)(y)

'You can spend time analysing your opponents, or you can spend time analysing opponents and giving your time to these young people, the players in your squad, to try to understand how they think, how they live, what they need. Then, if you really know these people, you can provide better tools to improve and be better and to help in their development. '
 
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hughy

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Wise words from the man himself.. (y)(y)(y)

'You can spend time analysing your opponents, or you can spend time analysing opponents and giving your time to these young people, the players in your squad, to try to understand how they think, how they live, what they need. Then, if you really know these people, you can provide better tools to improve and be better and to help in their development. '
Compare that to Sarri's comment yesterday:

"This group of players are extremely difficult to motivate."

It makes you appreciate how lucky we, and the players, are to have Pochettino.
 

cider spurs

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The man just oozes class. He plays the media perfectly.

Look at all these other managers of late, or currently at the supposed 'big clubs'...

Klopp's constant punching everytime Scouse score is way over the top and just embarrassing. Add to this his constant ignorance to the rules if Liverpool fail to win or struggle.

Mourinho. Well it's all about him and he's prepared to publicly chuck any player under the bus.

Sarri. He now has come out and publicly questioned Chelsea's motivation regarding player performance.

Conte at Chelsea previously had aired gripes with the board in public.

Meanwhile...back at the ranch, the cool, charasmatic Poch, happily goes about his business safe in the knowledge that his rivals are mere pretenders.
 

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Compare that to Sarri's comment yesterday:

"This group of players are extremely difficult to motivate."

It makes you appreciate how lucky we, and the players, are to have Pochettino.

I think there is more than luck there. Pochettino demands a certain level of professionalism and self dedication. If a player doesn't exhibit those traits, or is unwilling to adopt them traits, then they get frozen out and eventually sold.

It is both a good and a bad thing. It means Poch will probably never get the best out of a maverick style player and this is one of the reasons why I think he'll fail if he leaves us and goes to a bigger club like Real Madrid or Man Utd (he won't be given the time to implement his culture and there is a strong chance a certain amount existing players will turn on him and if they're fan favourites....).

The good thing is that he builds an identity and ethos within the club and everyone pulls in the same direction.

Ultimately though he still needs to start winning things. We're on our longest post-war stretch without winning a trophy and if we fail to win a trophy this year it will be the first time post war that we have registered a trophy in a decade. In 30 years time that is all people will look at. They won't care if we were Champion's League regulars or finished 2nd to 4th year after year for a few years.
 

teedee

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Compare that to Sarri's comment yesterday:

"This group of players are extremely difficult to motivate."

It makes you appreciate how lucky we, and the players, are to have Pochettino.

Sarri's a tactical one trick pony. He has a carthorse (see what I did there?) in Jorginho, who cannot keep up with the English game and the world's best defensive midfielder, the non-stop Kante, playing out of position. Madness. I think Chelski will be looking for a new manager at the season's end.

It's the easy way out for the likes of Sarri, Conte and Maureen to blame the players when it is their own failure to motivate players that is the problem. Poch is the man and I hope we can hold on to him.
 

allatsea

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I think there is more than luck there. Pochettino demands a certain level of professionalism and self dedication. If a player doesn't exhibit those traits, or is unwilling to adopt them traits, then they get frozen out and eventually sold.

It is both a good and a bad thing. It means Poch will probably never get the best out of a maverick style player and this is one of the reasons why I think he'll fail if he leaves us and goes to a bigger club like Real Madrid or Man Utd (he won't be given the time to implement his culture and there is a strong chance a certain amount existing players will turn on him and if they're fan favourites....).

The good thing is that he builds an identity and ethos within the club and everyone pulls in the same direction.

Ultimately though he still needs to start winning things. We're on our longest post-war stretch without winning a trophy and if we fail to win a trophy this year it will be the first time post war that we have registered a trophy in a decade. In 30 years time that is all people will look at. They won't care if we were Champion's League regulars or finished 2nd to 4th year after year for a few years.
We are still a club in transition. Moving from being unable to compete at all to regularly competing in the Champions League. The next step is winning things and I believe we will provided Poch stays and is supported.
 

RichieS

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Could it not be argued that it's the in-built fear factor of yesteryear rearing it's ugly head once more.

Maybe some are so apprehensive after witnessing Spurs falter time after time when on the cusp of great achievements.

The current injury crisis allowing for the dread to reappear. I personally think we will get through this tricky period, and yes the upcoming fixtures still see us strong man v man league wise...but, no guarantees of winning any football match.

On that basis. I just try and enjoy for what it is...C'est la Vie.
I don't know about BBLG, but the thing that really gets my goat is the absolute certainty with which some doom-mongers post. It's almost like they want us to cock up just so they can say "I told you so".
 

cider spurs

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I don't know about BBLG, but the thing that really gets my goat is the absolute certainty with which some doom-mongers post. It's almost like they want us to cock up just so they can say "I told you so".


I've done the duration one afternoon in the 'Match-day thread'

It appears some days we've already lost hours before kick-off. :eek: o_O
 

BringBack_leGin

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Could it not be argued that it's the in-built fear factor of yesteryear rearing it's ugly head once more.

Maybe some are so apprehensive after witnessing Spurs falter time after time when on the cusp of great achievements.

The current injury crisis allowing for the dread to reappear. I personally think we will get through this tricky period, and yes the upcoming fixtures still see us strong man v man league wise...but, no guarantees of winning any football match.

On that basis. I just try and enjoy for what it is...C'est la Vie.

And by just enjoying things for what they are, you will derive far more pleasure from supporting this great club and be far more measured in your appraisal of any given circumstance. I would agree on the point that a lot of this negativity is based on some form of Spurs related PTSD apart from the fact that I am convinced a lot it is coming from more recent fans who weren't that dedicated/ loyal in the bad old days anyway and are really just a bit jealous of the mega rich clubs, because those of us who were around when things were genuinely going through tough times are in the main quite appreciative of how far we've come and from how far behind.

I don't know about BBLG, but the thing that really gets my goat is the absolute certainty with which some doom-mongers post. It's almost like they want us to cock up just so they can say "I told you so".

Absolutely what gets me. I feel like this site is populated with people who are ENIC/ Levy haters first and Spurs supporters second, who are far more concerned in saying "see, we've fucked up because we didn't spend £75m on Shineylio di Newplayerinho" than they are in actually watching what's in front of us and judging it for what it is. At the end of the day you can only have 11 players on the pitch at any given time and apart from Barcelona and Man City this season, there hasn't been any occasion this season where we'd not have at least half the players in a combined xi. Who signed the cheques to sign those players? Who orchestrated the development of our youth academy and coaching facilities to improve those players? Must be some kind of mythical spaghetti monster, because Levy is just a stingy **** who wants us to fail apparently.
 

rossdapep

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The man just oozes class. He plays the media perfectly.

Look at all these other managers of late, or currently at the supposed 'big clubs'...

Klopp's constant punching everytime Scouse score is way over the top and just embarrassing. Add to this his constant ignorance to the rules if Liverpool fail to win or struggle.

Mourinho. Well it's all about him and he's prepared to publicly chuck any player under the bus.

Sarri. He now has come out and publicly questioned Chelsea's motivation regarding player performance.

Conte at Chelsea previously had aired gripes with the board in public.

Meanwhile...back at the ranch, the cool, charasmatic Poch, happily goes about his business safe in the knowledge that his rivals are mere pretenders.
It's why we need to keep faith with him, support him and give him the tools he wants to succeed because if he hangs around long enough Klopp will implode or tire like he did at Dortmund, United will probably falter once Solskjaer shows he can't win trophies, Chelsea will continue to flip flop whilst Arsenal will linger in the doldrums. The only block I see over the coming years is Guardiola and City but looking at Peps past shows me that he wont be around for years. There will be an opportunity, we just have to be in a position to take it.
 

Shadydan

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Sarri's a tactical one trick pony. He has a carthorse (see what I did there?) in Jorginho, who cannot keep up with the English game and the world's best defensive midfielder, the non-stop Kante, playing out of position. Madness. I think Chelski will be looking for a new manager at the season's end.

It's the easy way out for the likes of Sarri, Conte and Maureen to blame the players when it is their own failure to motivate players that is the problem. Poch is the man and I hope we can hold on to him.

Hmm not sure about that, I just think the culture at Chelsea is made to easy for the players due to their history under Roman they will always be backed over the manager. Don't forget when Poch came in he still needed backing from Levy as we were dangerously slipping into that same culture that Chelsea has.
 

bomberH

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Apologies if already posted on here. From the Telegraph:

Pochettino has revealed he once told Burnley boss Sean Dyche to fuck off when on the touchline together.

"It was very funny, a few years ago I was with Sean Dyche on the touchline. Sean was on touchline, shouting fucking this, fucking that. In one moment I turned to him and I said: fuck off, Sean. Hey, Sean, fuck off.”

"I said sorry Sean, I apologise. I did not want to disrespect him — I thought I was saying shut up. If we say it, it does not have the same impact as an English person saying it, the same context.”
 

Paolo10

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Absolutely what gets me. I feel like this site is populated with people who are ENIC/ Levy haters first and Spurs supporters second, who are far more concerned in saying "see, we've fucked up because we didn't spend £75m on Shineylio di Newplayerinho" than they are in actually watching what's in front of us and judging it for what it is. At the end of the day you can only have 11 players on the pitch at any given time and apart from Barcelona and Man City this season, there hasn't been any occasion this season where we'd not have at least half the players in a combined xi. Who signed the cheques to sign those players? Who orchestrated the development of our youth academy and coaching facilities to improve those players? Must be some kind of mythical spaghetti monster, because Levy is just a stingy **** who wants us to fail apparently.

A lot of fans, including myself, believe that a net transfer spend of £29m since Poch got here isn't really good enough for a club that's supposed to want to challenge.
 

Shadydan

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A lot of fans, including myself, believe that a net transfer spend of £29m since Poch got here isn't really good enough for a club that's supposed to want to challenge.

What about that huge thingymajig we are building in N17, shouldn't that be taken into account as to why we're financially hamstrung when quoting spending figures?
 

spursfan77

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Could it not be argued that it's the in-built fear factor of yesteryear rearing it's ugly head once more.

Maybe some are so apprehensive after witnessing Spurs falter time after time when on the cusp of great achievements.

The current injury crisis allowing for the dread to reappear. I personally think we will get through this tricky period, and yes the upcoming fixtures still see us strong man v man league wise...but, no guarantees of winning any football match.

On that basis. I just try and enjoy for what it is...C'est la Vie.

Without doubt and I include myself in this. We are part of the problem. The negativity. Its not our fault because of our past history, but it doesn't help. Poch has alluded to this a few times this season when talking to the press. Bowl of lemons and all that.
 
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