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FibreOpticJesus

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I don't think we should judge him for his time at United. Let's be real - United have been average or below average attacking in the last few years.

He could thrive here, but we need a serious cut-rate bargain.

Let's face it United will not sell any player to their rivals...let alone at cut price...so lets move on.
 

Spursmad321

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I don't think we should judge him for his time at United. Let's be real - United have been average or below average attacking in the last few years.

He could thrive here, but we need a serious cut-rate bargain.
Well said mate, Di Maria hardly pulled up any trees under LVG, looks a world beater at PSG!!
 

MarkyP

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had one unbelievable season at PSV...... Utd were/are a team in transition when he joint them... not the easiest place to settle and adapt with every game they played being compared to Fergie's record and his legacy...
Apparently was quite a troubled kid.. needs an arm round his shoulder and a father figure of a manager..

May have been a good signing for us at the time he left PSV... probably not now. Depends if Poch could get his head straight and back on track.
I doubt we'd look at a loan, unless a fee agreed up front - as the amount of time and effort it would take to get him back on track would probably be considerable.. we wouldn't do that, then pack him back off to Utd.
 

GeneralBurk

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I don't think we should judge him for his time at United. Let's be real - United have been average or below average attacking in the last few years.

He could thrive here, but we need a serious cut-rate bargain.
He has contributed to that below average performance.
 

dirtydave

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I'm not convinced his ego would fit through the changing room door. We need someone who listens to their coach. Halilovic strikes me as the right type. Likes to close down, pinch the ball then do something creative. Scores, can cross, can deliver a dead ball, beats his man and looks good on the break but most importantly doesn't wear sunglasses on a cloudy day. The 2 year buy back clause that Barca inserted might actually help persuade Hamburg to sell but in reality we probably missed the boat during the summer :(

How about someone like Yunus Malli as an impact sub instead?
 

Shadydan

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Depay's performances have been embarrassing. Living in Manchester I don't know of one United fan that wants to keep him.

Maybe the ones with a luxury car dealership.

That's fair but he's obviously hit a wall but we'be seen this before with young players who are being mis-managed he needs an arm around him, Townsend has never had a season that Depau had in the Dutch league and Depay's potential is far greater than his.
 

GeneralBurk

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That's fair but he's obviously hit a wall but we'be seen this before with young players who are being mis-managed he needs an arm around him, Townsend has never had a season that Depau had in the Dutch league and Depay's potential is far greater than his.
Equally Townsend has never played in League at the level of the Dutch League.

Plenty of players have ripped it up in that league. For every Van Nistelrooy read Afonso Alves and Mateja Kezman, Ryan Babel and Dirk Kuyt.
 

Shadydan

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Equally Townsend has never played in League at the level of the Dutch League.

Plenty of players have ripped it up in that league. For every Van Nistelrooy read Afonso Alves and Mateja Kezman, Ryan Babel and Dirk Kuyt.

Well yeah he has, he's played in the Championship for a couple of years at the same age as Depay was when he played in the Dutch league, was hardly pulling up any trees down there.
 

GeneralBurk

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Well yeah he has, he's played in the Championship for a couple of years at the same age as Depay was when he played in the Dutch league, was hardly pulling up any trees down there.
Neither did Harry Kane. I'm just saying one season in the Dutch League compared to his abject performances in a Man Utd shirt couple with his Billy Big Bollocks attitude would give me grave concerns about his suitability.

On top of that he would go straight in as one our top earners and be rewarding failure. We've been there and done that with Adebayor already.

Edit: For the avoidance of doubt I'm glad we sold Townsend. Too one dimensional. Cut inside, strike from 30 yards, blaze over in row z (or row a if we're playing Spammers). Worst thing that happened to him was those matches with England and seeing the real deal in Bale doing what he tries week in week out.
 
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talkshowhost86

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Equally Townsend has never played in League at the level of the Dutch League.

Plenty of players have ripped it up in that league. For every Van Nistelrooy read Afonso Alves and Mateja Kezman, Ryan Babel and Dirk Kuyt.

Just from Depay's few early performances at United you can see he's a much better footballer than Townsend.

Lost his way certainly, and I'd probably steer clear due to the ego and questionable work-rate, but he's a much much better footballer than Townsend and you don't have to watch much of him to see that.
 

GeneralBurk

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Just from Depay's few early performances at United you can see he's a much better footballer than Townsend.

Lost his way certainly, and I'd probably steer clear due to the ego and questionable work-rate, but he's a much much better footballer than Townsend and you don't have to watch much of him to see that.
Being better than Townsend is not an adequate marker for me. I wouldn't want either near the club.
 

Shadydan

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Neither did Harry Kane. I'm just saying one season in the Dutch League compared to his abject performances in a Man Utd shirt couple with his Billy Big Bollocks attitude would give me grave concerns about his suitability.

On top of that he would go straight in as one our top earners and be rewarding failure. We've been there and done that with Adebayor already.

Edit: For the avoidance of doubt I'm glad we sold Townsend. Too one dimensional. Cut inside, strike from 30 yards, blaze over in row z (or row a if we're playing Spammers). Worst thing that happened to him was those matches with England and seeing the real deal in Bale doing what he tries week in week out.

You're digressing from the point made about the Townsend/Depay comparison, the point is that the comparison is poor, Depay potentially is on a totally different spectrum to Townsend, doesn't matter if Harry Kane was poor in the Championship, the point is that they've both played at a similar level and Depay has show far better promise.

Also like I keep saying, he went to Utd far too early in his career, he needs to mature and he needs a manager that will nurture him, we've seen it many times before where players go into a completely different enviroment to a bigger club and they melt because the pressure and expectations are far greater, there's no difference here. Also I'm not advocating signing him, just making arguments in his favour although I wouldn't be against it if we did manage to.
 

GeneralBurk

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You're digressing from the point made about the Townsend/Depay comparison, the point is that the comparison is poor, Depay potentially is on a totally different spectrum to Townsend, doesn't matter if Harry Kane was poor in the Championship, the point is that they've both played at a similar level and Depay has show far better promise.

Also like I keep saying, he went to Utd far too early in his career, he needs to mature and he needs a manager that will nurture him, we've seen it many times before where players go into a completely different enviroment to a bigger club and they melt because the pressure and expectations are far greater, there's no difference here. Also I'm not advocating signing him, just making arguments in his favour although I wouldn't be against it if we did manage to.
The comparisons to the Championship are relevant. It's about the same level as the Dutch League with a few teams sometimes above. One season wonders are all too prevalent in that league.

I just think he's damaged goods. In terms of attitude and wages the same as Babel was and he never recovered.

He might have a chance at a club like Everton and West Ham who will take anything (begging letters as evidence). He would also be one of the biggest players which might help with such an egotistical player.
 

Shadydan

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The comparisons to the Championship are relevant. It's about the same level as the Dutch League with a few teams sometimes above. One season wonders are all too prevalent in that league.

I just think he's damaged goods. In terms of attitude and wages the same as Babel was and he never recovered.

He might have a chance at a club like Everton and West Ham who will take anything (begging letters as evidence). He would also be one of the biggest players which might help with such an egotistical player.

Exactly my point, they're relevant hence me bringing up the fact that Townsend played in the Championship and wasn't as good as Depay was in the Eredivisie, you said that Townsend has never played in a league like Depay has and I countered it with the Championship point.
 

GeneralBurk

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The comparison that's relevant is certain players have bombed at that level yet shown they can step up massively. I.e. Kane.

A One season wonder in a Championship level League is all Depay is. Should we buy Tom Ince on that basis?

I'd understand the transfer if we were buying him from PSV now as all transfers have an element of risk. However having seen what an ineffective player Man Utd have made him on such a high wage and exhibiting a made it attitude without achieving real success.

I can see him going to China. His attitude would be rewarded.
 
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