Michael Dawson and Younes Kaboul are refusing to leave Spurs

[Everlasting Seconds]

Potentially 8 million for Dawson? I'm all out of "wat"s.

No way is that number referring to the transfer fee. 8M must be Dawsons proposed salary for the entire contract as a whole (for instance over 3 years, maybe 4?). That makes far more sense.

 

[UbeAstard]

Just get them both out. They are on maybe a combine wage of around 80 to a 100k. Buy that Argie centre back and a forward or left winger. Don't worry trust in levy will sort it out soon. COYS

Why would you want that attitude with guys who would never have left the club if they weren't made to. Is everyone just a discard able commodity to you?

 

[Dharmabum]

Dawson turned down a move to Hull....but doesn't mean he's refusing to move from Spurs.
And is there evidence that Kaboul has turned down a move to Lazio?

 

[chico]

Chill lads, 'Arry will be along in a week or so with the chequebook for a couple of triffic players

 

[vigospur]

Dawson especially. Never a moment's trouble. Lovely family.

 

[vigospur]

Keep up. When they show ambition to leave (Bale, Modric etc) they are a bad example of modern footballer who have no loyalty and when they want to be loyal and stay they are just in it for the money and clearly don't have any footballing ambition.

As per Winston Bogarde. Loyalty personified.

 

[whitesocks]

If we are that desperate that they leave, we can just pay off their contracts.

 

[Gbspurs]

As per Winston Bogarde. Loyalty personified.

Winston Bogarde, 4 years, 9 appearances.

Michael Dawson. 9 years, 220 appearances, club captain.

It's uncanny.

 

[vigospur]

Winston Bogarde, 4 years, 9 appearances.

Michael Dawson. 9 years, 220 appearances, club captain.

It's uncanny.

If Dawson runs his contract down whilst not in the manager's plans his stats won't look so clever. And his (well earned) reputation will suffer. Personally, I suspect he will move when the penny drops.

 

[Gbspurs]

If Dawson runs his contract down whilst not in the manager's plans his stats won't look so clever. And his (well earned) reputation will suffer. Personally, I suspect he will move when the penny drops.

How about if he stays, shows well in training and gets back in the team? I don't think Dawson is quite ready for the glue factory yet and I suspect he doesn't either.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

How about if he stays, shows well in training and gets back in the team? I don't think Dawson is quite ready for the glue factory yet and I suspect he doesn't either.

As per last season.

 

[Redfap]

Dawson was an important cog in the team last year. Sure, he wasn't great, but he performed better than our other CB's and he was at least fit and ready for selection when the managers needed him. He still has a place in the squad at Spurs. Decent back up who can add experience in cup/europa games and can add some toughness and good aerial ability against your stoke cities etc....

Kaboul could be worth hanging onto if he is fit. However, that is a big IF. He has barely played in the past few years.

I think that both are and should be 'available' but there isn't a desperate need to sell.

Interestingly, we haven't heard anything about Chiricheș over the pre-season? I wonder how he is developing/what his status in the squad is? Is he fit at the moment?

Just my thoughts on the issue.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Dawson was an important cog in the team last year. Sure, he wasn't great, but he performed better than our other CB's and he was at least fit and ready for selection when the managers needed him. He still has a place in the squad at Spurs. Decent back up who can add experience in cup/europa games and can add some toughness and good aerial ability against your stoke cities etc....

Kaboul could be worth hanging onto if he is fit. However, that is a big IF. He has barely played in the past few years.

I think that both are and should be 'available' but there isn't a desperate need to sell...

Whilst I agree with you about the two players, we have already signed a central defender and are apparently trying hard to sign another. Vertonghen has signed a new contract and Chiriches is a lot younger than Kaboul and Dawson. In addition, Veljkovic seems to be sniffing around the first team squad. Something has to give, which means someone has to go. Baldini and Pochettino wouldn't be out there signing Dier and Musacchio if they intended to retain all five of the incumbents.

 

[Locotoro]

Isn't this the kind of 'one-club' loyalty that we're supposed to be admiring and contrasting with those players who agitated to leave? Or do we do that only with the popular players?

I'm not sure it's considered loyalty when they are refusing to be sold on to a lesser team. Loyalty is when a player stays despite having a better offer.

 

[diamondlight]

Kaboul took a free lick to a player after 70mins

New rule?

 

[ginola007]

Isn't this the kind of 'one-club' loyalty that we're supposed to be admiring and contrasting with those players who agitated to leave? Or do we do that only with the popular players?

Fans may still have a romantic notion of "loyalty", but football itself has long been metamorphosed into a cut throat business.
Also, if Dawson and Kaboul stay and they fail to perform, will we be reading threads on how loyal they have been or how useless they have become?

 

[Redfap]

Dawson was an important cog in the team last year. Sure, he wasn't great, but he performed better than our other CB's and he was at least fit and ready for selection when the managers needed him. He still has a place in the squad at Spurs. Decent back up who can add experience in cup/europa games and can add some toughness and good aerial ability against your stoke cities etc....

Kaboul could be worth hanging onto if he is fit. However, that is a big IF. He has barely played in the past few years.

I think that both are and should be 'available' but there isn't a desperate need to sell.

Interestingly, we haven't heard anything about Chiricheș over the pre-season? I wonder how he is developing/what his status in the squad is? Is he fit at the moment?

Just my thoughts on the issue.

Whilst I agree with you about the two players, we have already signed a central defender and are apparently trying hard to sign another. Vertonghen has signed a new contract and Chiriches is a lot younger than Kaboul and Dawson. In addition, Veljkovic seems to be sniffing around the first team squad. Something has to give, which means someone has to go. Baldini and Pochettino wouldn't be out there signing Dier and Musacchio if they intended to retain all five of the incumbents.

Yep, I would sell either of them if a bid came in, but they are not as bad a players as many people make out. The simple fact is we have a squad that is too big, so tough decisions will have to be made

 

[deadlight]

Keep up. When they show ambition to leave (Bale, Modric etc) they are a bad example of modern footballer who have no loyalty and when they want to be loyal and stay they are just in it for the money and clearly don't have any footballing ambition.

Is it me, or did David clearly say 'one-club' loyalty? ie. Bale and Modric came from other clubs to Spurs, so they obviously don't have any 'one-club' loyalty. Do you know what that means?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I would say that Kaboul playing on Saturday was a sign that Pochettino is happy to keep him, if he stays fit.

Of course, alternatively it was a case of putting him in the shop window.

 

[Gbspurs]

Is it me, or did David clearly say 'one-club' loyalty? ie. Bale and Modric came from other clubs to Spurs, so they obviously don't have any 'one-club' loyalty. Do you know what that means?