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Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

Everlasting Seconds

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Possible replacements for MS at Saints are Ondrej Duda & Jordy Clasie. Maybe we should go directly after who they view as acceptable replacements.
 

chinaman

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Maybe I'm one of the very few, but I've never been a great fan of MS. But if Poch thinks he'll make us tick, so be it and I sure hope he is worth all the trouble in getting him.
 

Dharmabum

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If we can't get Schneiderlin, I hope one of the alternatives is Khedira. Might be a tad optimistic, but you never know.

Khedira is on huge wages and's been riddel with injuries for the last 2 seasons; so I rather pass on him.
 

thebenjamin

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Goal.com article on MS. Classic Spurs that we'd value Paulinho at £17M but MS at £15M. If his quotes are real at the end of the article you'd have to think the only way he's joining us is if he has no other options at all.


Southampton have set a £25 million asking price for Arsenal and Tottenham target Morgan Schneiderlin,Goal has learned.

The north London rivals have both made enquiries for the midfielder but have been told Southampton will not accept any less than their valuation.

The Saints held firm last summer when they refused to entertain any bids for Schneiderlin as the player attempted to force a transfer to Tottenham.

The club are adamant that the 25-year-old will cost £25m this summer and will repeat the stance they took last year with Adam Lallana and Dejan Lovren.

Liverpool tried to negotiate over both players but eventually met Southampton's demands for £25m for Lallana and £20m for Lovren.

Arsenal are prepared to spend up to £20m on Schneiderlin while Tottenham value the France international at around £15m.

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Chelsea and Manchester United are also understood to be monitoring Schneiderlin's situation with the player keen to move to a bigger club and play in the Champions League.

Southampton have offered Schneiderlin a new contract worth £60,000-a-week to stay at St Mary's but he wants a fresh start after seven years at the club.

Schneiderlin's relationship with the Saints board remains strained as he feels the club broke promises to listen to bids for him last summer.

The former Strasbourg man has missed the end of the season due to a knee injury after making 26 appearances for Southampton this season – and he may have played his last game for the club.

Southampton look set to qualify for a Europa League place next season but Schneiderlin has spoken of his desire to play in the Champions League.

"In August, I wanted to take a move but the club had lost too many players to agree to sell me," he told French newspaper L'Equipe in March.

"Since then I have had discussions with the leaders and I want to play at the highest level: it is important at 25 years old to finally know the Champions League.

"Given that, late in the season, Southampton may qualify for the Champions League and I can stay, who knows. I have no desire to be in front of my TV on Tuesday and Wednesday."
 

Dharmabum

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2015/05/19/11866772/-?

The north London rivals have both made enquiries for the 25-year-old midfielder but have been told they will have to match the Saints' valuation of one of their key assets

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Southampton have set a £25 million asking price for Arsenal and Tottenham target Morgan Schneiderlin,Goal has learned.

The north London rivals have both made enquiries for the midfielder but have been told Southampton will not accept any less than their valuation.

The Saints held firm last summer when they refused to entertain any bids for Schneiderlin as the player attempted to force a transfer to Tottenham.

The club are adamant that the 25-year-old will cost £25m this summer and will repeat the stance they took last year with Adam Lallana and Dejan Lovren.

Liverpool tried to negotiate over both players but eventually met Southampton's demands for £25m for Lallana and £20m for Lovren.

Arsenal are prepared to spend up to £20m on Schneiderlin while Tottenham value the France international at around £15m.
 

Blackcanary

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£15 million?o_O

Oh dear.

Think we might have to be prepared this one won't happen unless we alter our stance, as Soton won't budge as seen last year(unless we throw in a player?).
 

Mr Pink

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25 million is exactly what I expected them to value him at - in today's crazy market.

Its really not that unreasonable. If we have no attention of getting anywhere near that we should just drop our interest now. This is what always gets me with us sometimes - if we know its very unlikely that two valuations will be bridged why waste the time when we could be pursuing other targets/alternatives?

It will be important that we get these players in relatively early, not doing the usual and waiting until the latter stages of the window.

15 million is a joke though. and I'd be rightly laughing if I were at Southampton. He's pretty much the best midfielder in the League - that type of midfielder anyway.

20 million should be the absolute minimum.
 

prawnsandwich

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No way is this guy worth £25 mill.
I hope we are in this deal just to bump up the price for Arsenal.
 
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SHaRD

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He's homegrown too, which adds another 40% to his price.

If he was coming from abroad, he'd be a £12m player IMO.
 

Grapo2001

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No way is this guy worth £25 mill.
I hope we are in this deal just to bump up the price for Arsenal.

It's almost impossible to compare prices of players and say whether someone is worth something. A vital cog in a team is worth far far more than a back up in a different formation.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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25 million is exactly what I expected them to value him at - in today's crazy market.

Its really not that unreasonable. If we have no attention of getting anywhere near that we should just drop our interest now. This is what always gets me with us sometimes - if we know its very unlikely that two valuations will be bridged why waste the time when we could be pursuing other targets/alternatives?

It will be important that we get these players in relatively early, not doing the usual and waiting until the latter stages of the window.

15 million is a joke though. and I'd be rightly laughing if I were at Southampton. He's pretty much the best midfielder in the League - that type of midfielder anyway.

20 million should be the absolute minimum.

I understand the frustration but if he is Poch's number one target then surely it is better to wait than go for potentially substandard alternative?

With situations like this I don't always think it's us not paying up that delays things. It's more likely that if Schneiderlin(and his agent) know other more prestigious clubs are interested then he will wait until the very last moment for them to bid. Even though he may only be 3rd or 4th choice on their list. So we just have to wait our turn and hope that those other clubs get their number 1 targets leaving us to sign our number 1 target in Schneiderlin.

I actually think that is what holds us up on a lot of our transfers. We are in many cases targeting players that are also on the radar of bigger clubs. Which is a good thing. We could easily tie up deals for players that are less talented and get the deals done early but that would likely leave us with a worse squad.
 

prawnsandwich

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We are in many cases targeting players that are also on the radar of bigger clubs. Which is a good thing. We could easily tie up deals for players that are less talented and get the deals done early but that would likely leave us with a worse squad.
Excellent points, some of which I don't agree with. ( :p ) Levy has shown with the Modric deal that if he has a target he can act quickly.
We have to be looking for players "under the radar."
 

thebenjamin

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Nothing wrong with a £25M valuation. If you were dealing with the club that spent £73M on Soldado, Lamela and Paulinho you'd be well within your rights to think they'll pay massively over the odds.
 

Mr Pink

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I understand the frustration but if he is Poch's number one target then surely it is better to wait than go for potentially substandard alternative?

With situations like this I don't always think it's us not paying up that delays things. It's more likely that if Schneiderlin(and his agent) know other more prestigious clubs are interested then he will wait until the very last moment for them to bid. Even though he may only be 3rd or 4th choice on their list. So we just have to wait our turn and hope that those other clubs get their number 1 targets leaving us to sign our number 1 target in Schneiderlin.

I actually think that is what holds us up on a lot of our transfers. We are in many cases targeting players that are also on the radar of bigger clubs. Which is a good thing. We could easily tie up deals for players that are less talented and get the deals done early but that would likely leave us with a worse squad.

But why wait? If we value him well south of what they want waiting isn't going to make a blind bit of difference - all we do is hinder our own situation.

If its possible that waiting will see us agree after lengthy negotiations then sure, its preferable. But not if its unlikely we won't. Its a judgement call that only Levy will be able to make.
 

dwaynedibley

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Same shit different day here, we will offer £10m less than the valuation, fuck about for ages then finally concede defeat when the window shuts and scrabble round for an inferior player, déjà fucking vu!!!
 

Blackcanary

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But why wait? If we value him well south of what they want waiting isn't going to make a blind bit of difference - all we do is hinder our own situation.

If its possible that waiting will see us agree after lengthy negotiations then sure, its preferable. But not if its unlikely we won't. Its a judgement call that only Levy will be able to make.

Yep, this isn't a case where we're going to get things our own way - he'll have other interest and Soton have shown already they won't sell if they don't want to. Us being stubborn on valuation will just see us missing out.
 

wadewill

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i think he is very good, much better than what we have. used to the prem, no worries about him settling, worked with MP and homegrown all add to the value.

i would take him at 25m to be honest. he will make a huge difference. he and bentaleb in midfield would be incredibly hard working, quick and all round spunkalisious
 

Tom Pops

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Why would we even bother bidding £15m? That was what we supposedly bid last year, he's only going to be a lot more expensive.
 
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