Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

[Blackcanary]

Christ, it's as neurotic and irrational as a Justin Bieber fan group in here!

Nothing official has happened yet!

 

[mikeeegreen]

I don't think that Poch would walk, and even if I did I don't think this would be what makes him walk.

From all we're hearing from ITK's and how we've set up this season and all of that, it sounds like we've gone for Schneiderlin but we don't want to pay that much because we don't have that much just casually lying around. It seems to be that the transfer fee is the main stumbling block and sadly Arse are happy to pay it. Add that to them being in the Champions League and all that then it makes sense that Morgan would go there. So yes Poch doesn't get who he wants, but not like it's his or our fault.

The MAIN question will be if we have a poch approved alternative lined up and if we're able to get him.

We probably have one lined up, but won't get them for taking too long/not paying the transfer fee/other clubs offering more money/messing around and taking to long to offload players for any sort of spending money.

 

[Maxtremist]

We probably have one lined up, but won't get them for taking too long/not paying the transfer fee/other clubs offering more money/messing around and taking to long to offload players for any sort of spending money.

In the past I'd be more inclined to agree with you but with Mitchell and Poch and all that on board it does sound like we're changing the way we do things. So I'd assume we have a few targets and we're going for them as much as we can. Issue is we clearly have a limit in how much we can spend (new stadium, wages and just generally not having the income the top 4 and Liverfool have).

 

[Indisguise]

I wouldn't get too wound up by the Schneiderlin to Arsenal claims yet. There were also claims a couple of days ago that the Gooners had met Carvalho's release clause. It's all ****.

 

[Spurger King]

Yes. I do. Once the window passes by and he hasn't got the players he wants, and is left with the players he doesn't want.

He's a great manager, he will have offers from other clubs by the time it rolls around.

The only silver lining could be that Levy would be firmly in the spot light as a failure once again, and maybe, just maybe might get the boot. You've got to have some hope!

If Pochettino were to kick up a fuss about not getting the players he wants (not that I think he would), he'd only have himself to blame for not doing his homework.

I've always taken the MS rumours with a pinch of salt as it's clearly just AVB/Moutinho all over again. We'd rather spend more money on two mediocre players that we'll be looking to shift 12/18 months from now at a loss, than spend big on a key player. Not worth worrying about it, that's just the way we roll.

Personally I think that after AVB, Levy would have ensured that the next manager knew the situation. You'll get what you're given - not what you need.

 

[shelfboy68]

I wouldn't get too wound up by the Schneiderlin to Arsenal claims yet. There were also claims a couple of days ago that the Gooners had met Carvalho's release clause. It's all ****.

Dont think anyone will get too wound up unless it becomes official and even then its to be expected.
As long as we can find cheaper alternatives we will be fine.

 

[WiganSpur]

This would of been such a massive signing for the Club on so many levels.

Feels like and utter kick in the balls after the guts of a year, he could be joining our rivals that will strengthen them considerably.

I know shit happens, and we'll move on to other targets but fuck me it doesn't half feel like a complete kick in the bollox.

I'm not panicking just yet, but it's important we land Kramer now.

There's a long way to go, and it doesn't bother me that much when we secure our targets, just that we secure them. We're fine to cope for 3 weeks with the players we have.

But if Pochettino isn't backed it will be bitterly disappointing.

 

[robbiedee]

Christ, it's as neurotic and irrational as a Justin Bieber fan group in here!

Nothing official has happened yet!

How dare you say nasty things about the Beliebers

 

[shelfboy68]

If Pochettino were to kick up a fuss about not getting the players he wants (not that I think he would), he'd only have himself to blame for not doing his homework.

I've always taken the MS rumours with a pinch of salt as it's clearly just AVB/Moutinho all over again. We'd rather spend more money on two mediocre players that we'll be looking to shift 12/18 months from now at a loss, than spend big on a key player. Not worth worrying about it, that's just the way we roll.

Personally I think that after AVB, Levy would have ensured that the next manager knew the situation. You'll get what you're given - not what you need.

You have a valid point but get what you given hasnt been much of a success thus far, get what the manager wants then you have transparancy.

 

[thebenjamin]

Who? Perhaps.

But I don't think he'll "walk" because we didn't sign players he wanted.

Also, I don't think Schneiderlin at £24m represents good value for money IF there are viable alternatives but accept he is the sort of player we need.

Stambouli is the viable alternative

 

[mikeeegreen]

I'm not panicking just yet, but it's important we land Kramer now.

There's a long way to go, and it doesn't bother me that much when we secure our targets, just that we secure them. We're fine to cope for 3 weeks with the players we have.

But if Pochettino isn't backed it will be bitterly disappointing.

I think you and me will be bitterly disappointed

 

[Khilari]

Stambouli is the viable alternative

I liked him but Poch just doesn't seem to rate him. But pointed out to me on another / this thread, Schneiderlin's contribution to goals and assists is much better.

 

[XSuicideBunnyX]

I'm not panicking just yet, but it's important we land Kramer now.

There's a long way to go, and it doesn't bother me that much when we secure our targets, just that we secure them. We're fine to cope for 3 weeks with the players we have.

But if Pochettino isn't backed it will be bitterly disappointing.

As much as I'd like us to sign Kramer, I think that just because he'd be our second choice I doubt a deal for him - the guy who was loaned to a club finishing in CL places and has gone back to a club in CL places - would be any simpler than a deal for Schneiderlin.

I agree with you on one level, in that we need to stop buying mediocrity. It has to be Schneiderlin or Kramer, and I think either of these signings would be worth overpaying for in terms of the value that would be brought from them to our team's performances.

 

[HoltbiusMac]

I'm not panicking just yet, but it's important we land Kramer now.

There's a long way to go, and it doesn't bother me that much when we secure our targets, just that we secure them. We're fine to cope for 3 weeks with the players we have.

But if Pochettino isn't backed it will be bitterly disappointing.

With Kramer there's surely a very real chance we could do nothing about it? He could on balance stay in Germany with Champions League football and despite us bidding whats required us not end up securing him.

 

[RButch]

If Arse get cech and add a few more of what they need, I cant see who we can beat to the top 4. Utd will buy some stunning players this window, Chelsea and City are way beyond us. I think we would have to buy a lot more that 2 players to keep up with them

Which is why in my opinion we should be building a team for the future. Bridge the gap by signing future stars whilst developing a team ethos.

Go get the best youngsters around that would want to come to us, develop them and reap the rewards. Yes it may mean that we don't challenge for the top 4 for 2 or so seasons, but realistically we aren't a top 4 team yet, even with a few excellent additions like Scheiderlin.

 

[Spurger King]

You have a valid point but get what you given hasnt been much of a success thus far, get what the manager wants then you have transparancy.

I have zero expectations when it comes to our transfer strategy. We sold Modric and VDV, and brought in Dembele and Dempsey instead of spending big on Moutinho, who would have been the heart of AVB's team. Then we splash out £17m on Paulino the following season!

I'll be shocked if we spend more than £15m on a player that could actually get into our starting eleven. Yes it would be great if we could get at least one key player that the manager wants (so far there's not been a single signing under Pochettino that could be said to command a first team place), but hey...that's how we approach things so why expect this summer to be any different?

 

[mikeeegreen]

With Kramer there's surely a very real chance we could do nothing about it? He could on balance stay in Germany with Champions League football and despite us bidding whats required us not end up securing him.

We won't get MS and we won't get Kramer. We will get Imbula. He will blow hot and cold and turn out not being the missing piece we so desperately crave due to him being a different player to MS and Kramer. One IMO we do not need.

 

[barry]

I think you and me will be bitterly disappointed

Don't be a downer brother. Have some hope and be happy. Being the prophet of doom is a sad existence.

 

[mikeeegreen]

I have zero expectations when it comes to our transfer strategy. We sold Modric and VDV, and brought in Dembele and Dempsey instead of spending big on Moutinho, who would have been the heart of AVB's team. Then we splash out £17m on Paulino the following season!

I'll be shocked if we spend more than £15m on a player that could actually get into our starting eleven. Yes it would be great if we could get at least one key player that the manager wants (so far there's not been a single signing under Pochettino that could be said to command a first team place), but hey...that's how we approach things so why expect this summer to be any different?

Everyone take note of this post. This is exactly what to expect. Don't set yourself up for a fall, it's not worth it.

 

[Spurger King]

We won't get MS and we won't get Kramer. We will get Imbula. He will blow hot and cold and turn out not being the missing piece we so desperately crave due to him being a different player to MS and Kramer. One IMO we do not need.

Doubt it. We'll probably miss out on Imbula too, then wheel Pochettino out for a press conference so he can say he's "vewwy happy with the players we have."