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Discussion in 'The Summer 2014 Transfer Rumours Archive' started by Chris12, Jun 8, 2014.
I think we are also interested in stopping goals at our end!
Is anyone actually saying that though? Or are they simply postulating as to why Poch might prefer him if Sandro is sold?
Indeed, a far more relevant criteria for discussing holding type central midfielders.
Schnederlin didn't stop us putting 3 past them at their place so what makes him the defensive solution for us?
In general we were alright with our midfielders shielding the defence. What we really struggled with was a very high number of individual defensive errors, in particular our centre backs and Naughton were responsible. Schneiderlin isn't going to make much difference in shielding our defence compared to Sandro, Dembele and Capoue.
Samuel and Lucio didn't stop us putting 3 past Inter, if you see what I'm getting at....
Heard of Christian Eriksen?
He doesn't dictate games, he's the link (or should be) between the midfield and the attack e.g. Rafa. What we need is a Modric.
He sure can dictate games and did - when he was played in CMF and not as winger (as Tim did). Being a link between mf and attack doesn't mean you cannot dicate games.
This little disagreement seems to be due to various definitions of the term "dictate." You're both right, but usually the term "dictate" in application to the midfield does typically apply to a player a bit more reserved who can control the entirety of the game. They tend to have a bit more influence due to their position and view of the field.
So while you're right that Eriksen can certainly control quite a few aspects of a game, Murray is right that we do lack a player at the moment who can take more control of the game from deep with his defending, positioning, and dispersal. We have not had such a player since Modric.
If we get him I still think Dembele will be the man out and we will play with 2 (more) defensive minded players
Where does that leave Paulinho?
Playing a similar position as he does for Brazil, being used to break up play when defending and hitting the box late in attack
I agree this would be a good role for him, though Dembele had the best tackling stats out of Himself, Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho and even Schneiderlin, winning the most tackles per 90 mins and loosing the least.
That said, I think Dembele will be the one to go as he holds onto the ball too long.
I think Poch is going to have to chance his set up with us, as we will face more parked buses and will be afforded less space.
Spurs9 as a side we are so static, too many players stand there waiting for ball to feet.
I agree, judging by the comments form his former players, Poch should fix that part of it, but even then, there is a big difference between how sides play against us than how they play against Southampton.
Schneiderlin is far more creative/a better ballplayer than Dembele.
I agree that Dembele should/will be the player to make room if we go for Schneiderlin.
Not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but Schneiderlin counts as homegrown (and can even elect to play for England now).
May be home grown but cant and never could play for england
He is in France's world cup squad lol
IMO. I would sell Dembele,Paulinho,Sandro, and replace with Schneiderlin and Kovacic, to thin out our M/F, and give it a better balance,probably get negative marks now.
Doesn't work as an argument. You could say Lloris didn't stop us getting stuffed repeatedly but it doesn't make him an inferior player. Building a team is about getting the cogs that fit together and that's what top managers do. I don't know if Schneiderlin would be a good fit but Pochettino presumably knows what he wants.
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