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Ossie85

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It really does make sense, why pay £6m now for the privilege of not getting him until the summer when we could just get him in the summer for a fraction of that? Fulham won't get much from a tribunal will they? They signed him 3 years or so ago so they've not invested that much in his development, he's clearly aware of our interest and so if he really wants to play for the club then he'll wait until he's spoken to us then to decide who to sign for.

I see absolutely no benefit of paying Fulham just to loan him back.

Unless someone else bids high and ramps up the price like we did with Ings, or a foreign club offers better terms (ie Better sign in bonus) given they can get him for free.
 
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npearl4spurs

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insert Gifs of Chiriches, Paulinho, Soldildo, Fazio, Frazier Campbell, Rasiak, Booth etc. etc. here.

sorry I meant since Poch came on board.

I'd argue anyone who said Fazio was a dumbass purchase. I thought it was a decent enough purchase, certainly not dumbass level.
 

Ossie85

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Exactly. There's no reason whatsoever that we couldn't have simply told his representatives that we'll be back in the summer for him.

Unless we made him sign a pre contract, words mean nothing. What's to stop him from signing with Citeh if they offer him a better wage ?

A lot can happen in 6 months
 

danielneeds

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There's something I can't quite understand.
If we are willing to finish the window without signing a striker, why don't we still sign Dembele and loan him to Fulham like they want?
It makes no sense
Because we think we can get him cheaper by tribunal, of course.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Unless we made him sign a pre contract, words mean nothing. What's to stop him from signing with Citeh if they offer him a better wage ?

A lot can happen in 6 months

Of course, anything is possible (y). I was just saying that there's no reason we couldn't have informed his representatives of our intentions to return again in the summer (y)
 

Stoof

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Presumably he will be able to negotiate with other clubs if his contract expires in the Summer?

So we get him chirpy chirpy cheap cheap?
 

dannythomas

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If the reason it broke down was because Fulham wanted him loaned back, I think we should have done it. It wouldn't have solved the issue for this season but we could have started next season with more cover and given him the summer to settle in. I think it was an opportunity missed for another young talent .... If, of course , that was the only reason.
 

Yid-ol

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If the reason it broke down was because Fulham wanted him loaned back, I think we should have done it. It wouldn't have solved the issue for this season but we could have started next season with more cover and given him the summer to settle in. I think it was an opportunity missed for another young talent .... If, of course , that was the only reason.

Or we didn't want to spend 5 million and the wages paying for a player that we won't get until the summer, the same time as his contract is up and could get him cheaper?
 

Stoof

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If the reason it broke down was because Fulham wanted him loaned back, I think we should have done it. It wouldn't have solved the issue for this season but we could have started next season with more cover and given him the summer to settle in. I think it was an opportunity missed for another young talent .... If, of course , that was the only reason.

Can we literally not agree something with him tomorrow and NOT pay any money?
 

Larryjanta

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Because he is under 24 we can only offer a contract 1 month before his contract is due to end.

It's not that, it's because he's from another English club I think (we could negotiate with a 23 year old from France)
 

Air Jordan 3

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Although we can't formally announce anything I think it is safe to say we will have had conversations about when his contract expires in these negotiations which will give us a head start over others.
 

Larryjanta

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I didn't go into all the details as we know he is at a UK club.

So, what you meant to type was "we can only offer a contract when he has a month left as he's at another English club" - we couldn't sign a 25 year old from Fulham on a pre-contract until he had one month left. Point is, age is not the factor, English club is.

#pedantwarrior
 

Yid-ol

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So, what you meant to type was "we can only offer a contract when he has a month left as he's at another English club" - we couldn't sign a 25 year old from Fulham on a pre-contract until he had one month left. Point is, age is not the factor, English club is.

#pedantwarrior

I'm going by this

Free transfer (association football)
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In professional association football, a freetransfer, also known as a Bosman transfer, involves a professional association football club releasing a player once the player'scontract has expired or made available just before the end of the contract.


How it worksEdit

The club acquiring the player does not have to pay any compensation for their release due to having nothing left to pay on their contract, hence, the term free transfer. Some individual leagues have restrictions to protect academies. For example, in the UK, players under 24 who are out of contract are only available on a free transfer if released by the club holding the players' licence.

Another type of free transfer is when a player is transferred from one club to another for no price, sometimes a transfer for a nominal feeis credited as a free transfer.

With six months or less remaining on an existing contract for players aged 23 or older, they are free to negotiate with other clubs and sign a pre-contract agreement, indicating their ability to move to their intended club on aBosman transfer once the next transfer window opens.
 
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