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mark87

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Just getting on the Cardiff game now. Could do with a win, been ages since the last one.

Last one for me was Liverpool drawing 2-2 with west brom. Tried a shite load during the world cup bit got buggar all, in fact only one game saw a 2 goal lead lost and that was Belgium Japan.
 

haxman

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Jan 14, 2007
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Last one for me was Liverpool drawing 2-2 with west brom. Tried a shite load during the world cup bit got buggar all, in fact only one game saw a 2 goal lead lost and that was Belgium Japan.
Aye that may have been the last one for me as well. If Liverpool keep going like last season starting like a train and running out of energy towards the end they might be a good shout for 2 up again.
 

haxman

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10 mins away from a 2 up landing @mark_2017 and not the first time that **** Alonso has done me out of money either.

My own fault, could have locked in profit just before the goal went in but greed got in the way, as usual.

Caps off a shite day. I lost about €50 on the day. Even in matched betting, there are days where things just don't go your way.
 

mark87

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10 mins away from a 2 up landing @mark_2017 and not the first time that **** Alonso has done me out of money either.

My own fault, could have locked in profit just before the goal went in but greed got in the way, as usual.

Caps off a shite day. I lost about €50 on the day. Even in matched betting, there are days where things just don't go your way.

Ahhh that sucks. None of mine came in, the closest I got was the Everton Southampton game, had saints equalised I would have been up £485
 

haxman

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Ahhh that sucks. None of mine came in, the closest I got was the Everton Southampton game, had saints equalised I would have been up £485
Did you back 2 up in the Utd game? I didn't see Brighton scoring 2 :(
 

mark87

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Did you back 2 up in the Utd game? I didn't see Brighton scoring 2 :(

Nope. I was looking for a Brighton close match but couldn't get one, kept thinking about how I missed out on the palace, United game last year, same thing could happen here :cry:
 

haxman

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Nope. I was looking for a Brighton close match but couldn't get one, kept thinking about how I missed out on the palace, United game last year, same thing could happen here :cry:
They were 6/6.2 365/Matchbook for a long time before the game. I'd have put no more than €25 on it myself which would have been a fairly small q/l. Will be a pisser if Utd get something out of this.
 

mark87

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They were 6/6.2 for a long time before the game. I'd have put no more than €25 on it myself which would have been a fairly small q/l. Will be a pisser if Utd get something out of this.

I never saw that, it was always atleast 6/6.4, bollocks. Probably would have lumped 100 on 6/6.2.
 

wooderz

James and SC Striker
May 18, 2006
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I just can't understand this now I'm out of the new customer offers... I went through the accumulator stuff and it just makes no sense to me and I keep losing.. I must be dump as you guys always post your successes!

Plus side, I did my own accumulator on Saturday and won £70 - back of the net!
 

mightyspur

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Aug 21, 2014
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I just can't understand this now I'm out of the new customer offers... I went through the accumulator stuff and it just makes no sense to me and I keep losing.. I must be dump as you guys always post your successes!

Plus side, I did my own accumulator on Saturday and won £70 - back of the net!
What don't you understand about the accas?
 

wooderz

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May 18, 2006
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You set it all up, then play til you lose.... if only one loses you get a free bet, but if more than one loses.. you're out? The free bet then might make you £6 or so... I just don't see how that's a winning strategy!?
 

mightyspur

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Aug 21, 2014
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There are many different strategies for accas. You seem to be talking about Advantage or no lay method, which effectively is like a normal acca anyone can place, but you do it on bookies that offer some acca insurance, such as Betfred, where they will give you a free bet up to £10 (to match your stake) if only one leg lets you down. The free bet is what gives you the value.

So you pick your selections based on close matches between the bookie and the exchange as the exchange gives a more realistic view of the actual probability and you want to be placing matches on where say the odds of Spurs winning on the bookie is 1.2 and on the exchange is 1.25.

So say you do a 5-fold acca with matches somewhere between 1.2 and 1.45. With a £10 stake you'll win around £30 and there is a 20% chance you'll do that. If you have 1 loss, your free bet will reduce the loss on your initial £10 stake to £2 and there is a 40% chance that will happen. 2+ losses and you lose the initial stake, get no free bet and the probability of that is 40%.

You therefore have a 60% probability of either ending up in profit or suffering a minimal loss, so the acca has roughly £2 EV, i.e. if you repeated that acca an infinite number of times, you'd be £2 in profit for each time you did it.

So the value therefore comes from putting that acca on as many times as you can afford to risk. Say you're happy to risk £50 so put it on 5 times. You'll either be £50 down if there are 2+ losses (40% chance), £10 down (40% chance) or £100 in profit (20% chance).

Lot of variance in that method though.

A different, lower risk method is where you lay after each game, but they obviously have to be played at different times. You stand to make a max profit of only £6.50 from that same acca, but the most you'll lose is £1.50. So again, if you have the liability, you can repeat that acca say 10 times over multiple bookies / accounts to make £60 profit or max loss of £15.

For making money from accas it is primarily about volume. The more you do, the more you make
 

wooderz

James and SC Striker
May 18, 2006
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There are many different strategies for accas. You seem to be talking about Advantage or no lay method, which effectively is like a normal acca anyone can place, but you do it on bookies that offer some acca insurance, such as Betfred, where they will give you a free bet up to £10 (to match your stake) if only one leg lets you down. The free bet is what gives you the value.

So you pick your selections based on close matches between the bookie and the exchange as the exchange gives a more realistic view of the actual probability and you want to be placing matches on where say the odds of Spurs winning on the bookie is 1.2 and on the exchange is 1.25.

So say you do a 5-fold acca with matches somewhere between 1.2 and 1.45. With a £10 stake you'll win around £30 and there is a 20% chance you'll do that. If you have 1 loss, your free bet will reduce the loss on your initial £10 stake to £2 and there is a 40% chance that will happen. 2+ losses and you lose the initial stake, get no free bet and the probability of that is 40%.

You therefore have a 60% probability of either ending up in profit or suffering a minimal loss, so the acca has roughly £2 EV, i.e. if you repeated that acca an infinite number of times, you'd be £2 in profit for each time you did it.

So the value therefore comes from putting that acca on as many times as you can afford to risk. Say you're happy to risk £50 so put it on 5 times. You'll either be £50 down if there are 2+ losses (40% chance), £10 down (40% chance) or £100 in profit (20% chance).

Lot of variance in that method though.

A different, lower risk method is where you lay after each game, but they obviously have to be played at different times. You stand to make a max profit of only £6.50 from that same acca, but the most you'll lose is £1.50. So again, if you have the liability, you can repeat that acca say 10 times over multiple bookies / accounts to make £60 profit or max loss of £15.

For making money from accas it is primarily about volume. The more you do, the more you make
Ah I see, had no idea about the volume idea!!!!! So.. whats the highest chance of profit here. Casino, dutching, accas?? I don't have much time so I want the lowest risk highest return

Just call me Peter Jones

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Blockbuster

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Jun 28, 2007
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@wooderz I've only recently started dabbling in AP Accas (as i feel the value in a £10FB in the lay accas is a bit time consuming)
so far I've had 2 refunds, 1 win and 4 losses Staked £70, won £50 + 2 x £10FB

its no science and that winner was the first one i did! so I've actually had 6 losses in a row... a better sample would be after 100 Accas but hey ho.

I make most of my money by trying to do every single Sign up offer my bank can handle, there are SO many out there like over 80 odd.

Then i do the daily calendar offers and always always so Low-Risk casino offers (these more than most make up most of my money) Slot offers are scary and you can lose money but low risk are exactly that, stick to the spin size and wagering requirements and you should make money.

I did Sky Vegas Stake £50 for a £10FB on sunday... hit a £500 win (it doesn't happen often but it can happen)
With the low risk casino stuff you can make good money, im talking sometimes £400 a month easily with the right mentally

Price Boosts are great too i dont lay them off either as alot of them come in to make it profitable long term
 

mightyspur

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Aug 21, 2014
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@wooderz I've only recently started dabbling in AP Accas (as i feel the value in a £10FB in the lay accas is a bit time consuming)
so far I've had 2 refunds, 1 win and 4 losses Staked £70, won £50 + 2 x £10FB

its no science and that winner was the first one i did! so I've actually had 6 losses in a row... a better sample would be after 100 Accas but hey ho.

I make most of my money by trying to do every single Sign up offer my bank can handle, there are SO many out there like over 80 odd.

Then i do the daily calendar offers and always always so Low-Risk casino offers (these more than most make up most of my money) Slot offers are scary and you can lose money but low risk are exactly that, stick to the spin size and wagering requirements and you should make money.

I did Sky Vegas Stake £50 for a £10FB on sunday... hit a £500 win (it doesn't happen often but it can happen)
With the low risk casino stuff you can make good money, im talking sometimes £400 a month easily with the right mentally

Price Boosts are great too i dont lay them off either as alot of them come in to make it profitable long term
Majority of my stuff is the daily low risk casino offers. Have a few accounts on some bookies, which definitely helps, but I'm just shy of £10k profit on casino offers alone after 6 months. Total profit is pushing £12.5k with the sports and dutching
 

wooderz

James and SC Striker
May 18, 2006
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Majority of my stuff is the daily low risk casino offers. Have a few accounts on some bookies, which definitely helps, but I'm just shy of £10k profit on casino offers alone after 6 months. Total profit is pushing £12.5k with the sports and dutching
You've made £10k using free spins? Or is there a dark art?
 

Blockbuster

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Jun 28, 2007
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You've made £10k using free spins? Or is there a dark art?
it'll be low risk stuff, not really just free spins... normally make the money on the initial wagering before the free spins

Hills had a Bingo offer on last 2 weeks, stake £10 get £3 bonus wagered 30x on a few times i hit £65, £74 wins on the initial wagering and a few times during the £3 bonus hit big wins, which made making it through wagering easier and making nice profits other times you completely lose your £10 but over the course of 2 weeks you will be up (normally!!)
 

mightyspur

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Aug 21, 2014
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You've made £10k using free spins? Or is there a dark art?
No, not free spins, although you sometimes get those of course. I am talking about the daily offers on casino's like Will Hill and Ladbrokes where it is Bet X to get Y were X is usually a max of £20 and Y is anything from a cash drop, to bonus amount that has to be wagered to free spins that sometimes either goes straight to cash or the winnings have to be wagered.

I'm risking only X each time I do the offer. On a bad day I might be down £150 - £200 across all accounts, but that is extremely rare. I usually make a small loss or a small gain from the previous day profit and then every so often I get a decent win of a few hundred
 

mightyspur

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Aug 21, 2014
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Broke £15k total profit from this, this week. Not bad for 9 months. Last 2 months have really slowed down on my casino stuff, but I'm tracking close to EV.

It's no exaggeration to suggest this has pretty much saved my life this year
 

Real_madyidd

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Oct 25, 2004
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does the sports betting still work? I have more time on my hands at the moment.
 
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