Absolute legend.

They are Spurs players so they better fu**ing know we won the double in 1961....am pretty sure Ledley does anyway.... Enough of the patronising Harry!!!!

I hope Harry is joking about players' ignorance of club history. It's his job to ensure that they do have a deeply felt knowledge of 1961 and a lot more Spurs history than that. It should be somewhere deep in their minds every time they step on the pitch

Gald Ledley 'the King' has a new contract. Just hope he starts getting his coaching badges under his belt, then he can get another contract as a player/coach which will give the club excellent cover for our long term future CB's.

The sad thing about Ledley is he is probably one managerial sacking away from never playing for us again.

People are missing Harry's point in the final few sentences. He's not interested in whether the players know we won the double in 1961 - most of them surely do, but only in the same sense that they know that Arsenal dominated English football in the 30s and Liverpool in the 80s, because they learned football history as professional footballers. I doubt that most of them have any special affinity for Tottenham's history, King excepted. Why would they? They aren't fans, they're players.

Redknapp's point - and it's a good one, rarely made - connects the way a club performed, with one set of players, 5-10 years ago, to the way if performs now, with a totally different set of players.

Although I do think there are collective mental-strength issues that beset - or benefit - any given squad of players, they don't linger over time. As the players who inculcated mental strength retire, or as the managers who were responsible for failing to deal with a team's weaknesses leave, the new squad develops its own character.

A good example is the "Spurs are always weak in the middle" argument. The only reason it was true was because successive managers didn't buy players to rectify it. Now we have Palacios, working well with Huddlestone to close down the route through the centre of the park, and it isn't so anymore. It isn't as though Palacios suddenly turned into a powder-puff tackler just because he joined Spurs, indeed Hudd has learned to tackle better.

The newspapers play along with this "fate" or continuity thing, by never failing to point out that "Everton always get good results at Sunderland dating back to 1970", but it's a silly argument and a pointless statistic. There's nothing about Everton in 1970 that has slightest influence over Sunderland in 2010.

Which is what Harry is getting at.

Its about time they offered him a contract.

Im gonna get shot down for this

But i reckon the quicker we move on the better for all.

wanger let viera go, fergie let keane go and they were all the better for it.

If we wanna challange the top 4 we cannot carry passengers.

we keep changing our back 2 to accomadate the king and however much i love him hes holding us back.

Bassong was great at the tart of the season but ever since hes been in and out of the team hes lost hes form.

Daws for captain with kaboul let them get some understanding together.

I don't agree 'zubs'. The three centre-backs you mentioned all lack experience...especially when playing together. There are times - against certain teams - when King's experience gives the young guys confidence, and, in real terms King does actually anchor the back line with insructions/encouragement.
Just my take on it though mate; I wouldn't claim to have "shot you down".

It's a non-problem from where I sit. Bassong's form is the same as it has been all season: generally good, but with lapses due to inexperience. King is never a passenger (except for 5 minutes against Arsenal...), he's the best defender at the club. The King/Dawson partnership works well and keeps clean sheets and so does the Dawson/Bassong partnership.

I see no signs that playing different central defensive pairs is having the slightest negative effect on our defence. On the contrary, we have the 4th best goals-against record in the league and have conceded 0.94 goals per game this season in all competitions.

Perhaps you could complain about something that is actually a problem.

Oh, I forgot. Spurs fan :wink:.

There is a potential problem there, which has not yet manifested itself (hence the word potential) and that is a changing back four, when we are playing two games a week. I can only think that Bassong gets pissed off royally when LK swans back in to the starting eleven, and YK will get royally pissed off as his number of minutes on the pitch does not increase.
A great problem for HR and the club but a potential problem for the players. Next season will need some clarity in the CB position as we have some good young un's also in the same position.
A potential problem but a positive one.

I doubt it. Bassong said plainly when he arrived that he knew what his role was and that he wanted to learn from King. Kaboul might well be a stroppier character, but he knows Harry and also knows that he was rescued from a sinking ship.

I doubt there are any defenders in England who would be insulted at being second choice to Ledley King.