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llamafarmer

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There doesn't seem to be much discussion on this, so thought I'd start a thread.

Looks like it's going to be Capello - what do people think of the choice? Personally I'm pretty happy, would have loved it to be Jose, but Capello is certainly well quailified.

It still makes me laugh when I read the likes of Paul Ince and Steve Coppell whinging that it's not an Englishman - Seriously, has the last appointment not proved that we simply don't have a qualified Englishman available to take on the job?! Do we want to actually win something, or is it better to continue to be shit, but at least content ourselves with having an Englishman in charge?
 

chrissivad

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He is well qualified, but how much does he know of the English game?

The only problem i can see, that could happen, is that we start playing in a new system that our players havn't played in and could take a few games to get to grips with. With not many games this could prove a problem. It would be good if we could get a few quick games in a row over the summer, while the others are off at the Euros.

But over all im quite happy at him coming in, wanted Jose though, but i can see Capello putting some players back in their place.
 

llamafarmer

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He is well qualified, but how much does he know of the English game?

But we're not going to be playing the English game, we need to play world cup footy and that's partly why I think we need a foreign coach.
 

chrissivad

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But we're not going to be playing the English game, we need to play world cup footy and that's partly why I think we need a foreign coach.

But we are going to be playing with English players, who, almost all of them have been brought up and always played the English game.

This new style might take a while for our players to get to grips with, and with limeted games we could see a slow start and then the press might well get involved again... like they always do.

I do agree we need a foreign coach, as our game is out dated, but that goes way past just the premierleague.
 

llamafarmer

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Most of the England players play under foreign coaches in the PL anyway and most have experience of winning in the Champions League. I would argue that under a decent England manager they'd adapt pretty quickly to a new style.

The ability is there, they just need some direction. I don't think it's any coincidence the big English stars shine for their clubs and then look ordinary for England, I think it's the manager's fault.
 

teddyboy

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He gets my vote for sure, I like his attitude...

:rofl:
 

donny1013

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Capello is one of my favourite managers in world football today. He can deal with any type of player, whether it be Ibrahimovic or Cassano he does not care about reputation. He will probably play with 2 deep midfielders and i feel that Hargreaves and Carrick could get a good look in. IMO Bentley has to get far more of a chance as well.
 

Joycer

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Would have liked to see Lippi get the job ... but happy with capello !
 

Kendall

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But we are going to be playing with English players, who, almost all of them have been brought up and always played the English game.

with the sheer amount of foreign players in the league now, this just isn't the case anymore, the english players are well versed in playing continental football, having played under foreign coaches, in foreign cups and with foreign players for years.
 

yiddotilidie

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Why should we go English?
You have to go back to Joe Fagan to find your last english manager who won anything worthwhile!

Capello = 9 titles in 16 years = winner!
 

Defsta

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Like yddotilidie obviously stated, England needs winner as their new coach. And in Capello case, he's definitely a winner.
 

joey55

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I think the appointment demonstrates everything that is wrong with the English game and that the fans and media are in no position to criticise the FA. We had a wake up call last month and it came from Billic. Yet it's been ignored and people are still using the same old opinions when it comes to appointing a head coach. We need to get real. We are a 1/4 final side becasue we have 1/4 final players. Cappello is s winner but only with the very best. Why the FA, the medai, and fans think our players fall in "the best" category is beyond me. We didn't need a coach who can deal with top players, we needed a coach who can make mid table players into winners. Greece won the European Championship and it was considered a minor miracle. A quick glance at Rehagel's CV tells you he has a habbit of performing minor miracles. That is what we need, not a coach who is great at wining with great sides. Yet with typical English arrogance we go after a coach with a history of winning things with the cream of European football. In England we seem to look everywhere for solutions apart from where the problem really is. Capello might have won loads of titles and be a top coach, but he won't do any better for England than the likes of SGE or Bobby Robson. We shouled listen to Billic and "wake up!"
 

llamafarmer

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Only time will tell on that one Joey. I don't think we're world cup winning material, but we certainly have a lot of talent and now a world class coach to lead them. Semis or even a final are not beyond us imo. If he can get the best out of the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and even Becks we have plenty of potential big match winners in our side.
 

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I think the appointment demonstrates everything that is wrong with the English game and that the fans and media are in no position to criticise the FA. We had a wake up call last month and it came from Billic. Yet it's been ignored and people are still using the same old opinions when it comes to appointing a head coach. We need to get real. We are a 1/4 final side becasue we have 1/4 final players. Cappello is s winner but only with the very best. Why the FA, the medai, and fans think our players fall in "the best" category is beyond me. We didn't need a coach who can deal with top players, we needed a coach who can make mid table players into winners. Greece won the European Championship and it was considered a minor miracle. A quick glance at Rehagel's CV tells you he has a habbit of performing minor miracles. That is what we need, not a coach who is great at wining with great sides. Yet with typical English arrogance we go after a coach with a history of winning things with the cream of European football. In England we seem to look everywhere for solutions apart from where the problem really is. Capello might have won loads of titles and be a top coach, but he won't do any better for England than the likes of SGE or Bobby Robson. We shouled listen to Billic and "wake up!"

I think you are spot on! :clap:
I also think that Capello is a very good coach, but he is probably used to work with different players, so he could need some time to adapt(and the players too) and his teams are known for playing defensive, cynical and downright ugly football.
I guess most ppl wont complain if he is succesful but i'll be sad when England plays Cattenaccio-style.
 

joey55

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He is the right man for the job.

Where does this opinion come from? It seems to me the press and fans are united in believeing that our players need better tactical guidance and that they need their egos sorting out. Yet the players in other successful International teams often seem to have far bigger ego problems than those in the England team. Also, you aren't going to find many more tactically astute coach than SGE. I just don't understand what people expect Cappello to achieve and how he is worth paying all that money. He's a great coach, but i fail to see how any of his past achievements have any correlation with what is needed for the England job. The only time he has ever had a job when he didn't inherit one of the best sides in Europe was when he took over at Roma. He didn't solve that problem on the training ground though. He went out and bought a new spine of the team ie Samual, Emerson and Batistuta. He can't do that with England. There is simply no evidence of what he can do with a restricted set of players, other than when Roma had financial problems and they ended up in a relagtion fight.

It seems that the FA haven't bothered to look passed his CV, which is full of great achievments. If they had they'd realise that these achievments have been in a very different set of circumstances and with a style of football for which English players are very unsuited.
 

KeaneIsKeane

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Joey, I think you're wrong and here's why. Yes Cappello had great players at the teams he won championships with, but its still not easy to win championships. There isn't just one team in each league with sides good enough to win championships. Certainly Barcelona had just as talented a squad as Real Madrid, but Real Madrid won last year. Secondly, Cappello doesn't actually have to win anything to be successful. England aren't World Cup winning material. He simply needs to help them improve and give the English side a certain amount of respect in the world again. That may not be good enough for a lot of English fans and the English media who seem to expect trophies that England are not even close to deserving, but it is what is realistic. I think he can get them to the Semis of the World Cup or so and that is an accomplishment. And I also think its unfair to say English players are unsuited for his style. He must be given a chance to implement his style and try it, before assuming it can't work.
 

AW?

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He gets my vote for sure, I like his attitude...

:rofl:

:rofl:

I love that story about him involving Di Canio at Milan. Milan are winning in a friendly, Cappello takes him off at half time and Di canio asks why. Cappello says, "because you're a **** and your head looks like a penis!"
 
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