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Dundalk_Spur

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It’s an Irish retailer so the name wouldn’t mean a lot to a lot of people on here. Elverys Intersport is the company.

Eleverys stocking our shirts? Fucking first time for everything i suppose, or is it only in the Dublin area?
 

Gbspurs

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I thought the collar was popular in this thread though no?

I was saying that the Chelsea kit still has the same collar as all the Nike templates and the same as our leaked shirt. I'm as confident as i can be that it's the real shirt.
 

Tucker

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I’d imagine there’s a break clause with AIA in case a stadium sponsor wants the shirt too.
 

MonsterYid

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Eleverys stocking our shirts? Fucking first time for everything i suppose, or is it only in the Dublin area?

It’ll be in all the bigger, better stocked stores but you can see the range they buy in and the amount of stores that have it is increasing year on year.
 

JonnySpurs

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Just had the e-mail from Nike about new kits being available:

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What stands out to me is that there isn't a common look to any of them. They all have their differences both in collar types and when you compare Atletico and Inter - both striped - there is a clear difference between those. Chelsea's, besides being a bit grim, is very much unique compared with Roma's, which I personally rather like.

It feels like Nike have woken up to the template criticism somewhat which bodes well for what we'll get on 1st July.

Equally, pay no attention to PNE's kit. I would imagine that they buy their kits from a catalogue of templates which are then personalised with their badges and sponsors. I very much doubt they would have a dedicated design team like we do.
 

nicdic

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Just had the e-mail from Nike about new kits being available:

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What stands out to me is that there isn't a common look to any of them. They all have their differences both in collar types and when you compare Atletico and Inter - both striped - there is a clear difference between those. Chelsea's, besides being a bit grim, is very much unique compared with Roma's, which I personally rather like.

It feels like Nike have woken up to the template criticism somewhat which bodes well for what we'll get on 1st July.

Equally, pay no attention to PNE's kit. I would imagine that they buy their kits from a catalogue of templates which are then personalised with their badges and sponsors. I very much doubt they would have a dedicated design team like we do.
Three shirts are one template, and the Atletico Madrid one is another.
 

JonnySpurs

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Three shirts are one template, and the Atletico Madrid one is another.

I'm talking more about the specific design elements. The cut of the shirt is generally always going to be the same but at least the designs themselves are all very different and don't just look like the exact same design with different colours.

For example, the Inter and ATL shirts could look identical, bar the colours, due to both being vertical stripes but they don't. As for the collar, I've seen other kits for this season with that collar so I think they'll be using either.
 

Phischy

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All this talk about the AIA shirt sponsorship in relation to the stadium seems a bit misguided to me. We can be much more rational and less emotive about it by considering what we know...

I'd say there's almost no chance of it changing during the length of the AIA deal. There's some clear pointers to this.

1. Levy signed the latest AIA deal with the stadium well underway; that is to say that conversations with potential stadium naming rights partners were also well underway. It seems very likely to me that his conversations will have suggested that the price difference between including shirt sponsorship and not including it was not sufficiently large. i.e. separating the two probably yields a greater overall figure than a combined deal. In short, he wouldn't have signed the extension with AIA if potential stadium naming rights partnerships (or their value) were hinging on having the shirt space too. We still had a year or two left on the deal before we extended it, so that wasn't a necessity at the time, neither was the length of the extension all the way to 2022.

2. On top of the above, having signed the AIA deal, it's likely that he/we would now have to pay to exit the deal (you really believe AIA would be willing to pay us a big lump every year and then accept a break clause in our favour, with no benefit to them, just because we found something better?!). As a result the value to us (on top of simple stadium naming rights) would have to be greater than the AIA plus the cost of exiting that arrangement. That seems even more unlikely.

3. Levy has pointedly told us (as fans) the reason we don't have a sleeve sponsor. Sadly, it's not some virtuous mission to keep the shirt looking clean (although I do love that we don't have one). Levy said that there won't be a sleeve sponsor until the naming rights deal is done. Strongly implying that the sleeve sponsorship will be tied in with the stadium naming rights, not the main shirt sponsorship.
 
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nicdic

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I'm talking more about the specific design elements. The cut of the shirt is generally always going to be the same but at least the designs themselves are all very different and don't just look like the exact same design with different colours.

For example, the Inter and ATL shirts could look identical, bar the colours, due to both being vertical stripes but they don't. As for the collar, I've seen other kits for this season with that collar so I think they'll be using either.
You're contrasting the two that are using two distinct templates. They're different.

Inter, Roma and Chelsea are all using the same template. You can tell by the collars, and the ribbing on the sleeves. The template has never stopped Nike from using different patterns in materials etc. For example our shirt this season is a template, but no one else has the gradient fade at the bottom like ours.
 

SlotBadger

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Have Roma ever had an ugly shirt? Every season it seems to look beautiful.
More often than not, their kit perfectly treads the line between not being overdone, yet looking fresh with each iteration.

They also benefit from being one of the few big clubs around Europe to have a unique colour combination; a combo few people would wear casually.
 

hughy

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Did anyone happen to save the one posted a few pages back which is believed to be a knock-off of the real thing? I think the guy deleted his tweet.
 

JonnySpurs

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You're contrasting the two that are using two distinct templates. They're different.

Inter, Roma and Chelsea are all using the same template. You can tell by the collars, and the ribbing on the sleeves. The template has never stopped Nike from using different patterns in materials etc. For example our shirt this season is a template, but no one else has the gradient fade at the bottom like ours.

Maybe I didn't explain myself very well or I used a poor choice of words but my point was more that, even last year, there were distinct examples of pretty much the same shirt being used by two different clubs. For example, our away shirt being almost identical to the Barcelona training top. Equally, even though they had differing colours and specific imagery, the "map" 3rd kit was done for multiple teams.

ALL kit providers use templates, Nike, Adidas, Puma, all of them. Maybe I was getting ahead of myself but the look of those home kits gave me enough reason to believe that there would be distinct differences between clubs whereas there hasn't been so much of that even very recently.

As I say, maybe I think I'm noticing something when there's nothing there to notice, I guess we'll see.
 
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