New song for 'Arry

[3Dnata]

The opening track on Leave Home by The Ramones.

 

[roosh]

What madness, supporting the manager and team ahead of booing them and chastising them when we're scrapping and at bare bones?

Crazy idea, can't see it catching on.

I don't think support is what they need at this stage; they need something to shock them into action.

It's one thing to support the team and manager through tough times, it's another thing altogether to recognise that your manager is a lame duck whose interests its in to see us fail.

 

[Destroyer]

I think we should have a song for Defoe about keeping his balls in his pants ...

 

[Eric_s]

1) You still aren't adressing the core issues, though, are you. Yes, he has done well for us, most of us, in responding to you, keep on saying this until we are blue in the face. The fact is, he has made those mistakes, and then attempted to justify himself by presenting the consequence of these mistakes as though they were viable explanations.

2) You are not the only one who stood by Redknapp after the first two games of the season - I certainly did, and I know there were others.

3) Again, most if us are going out of the way to stress that we should all get behind the team and that there shouldn't be any booing or such like, but that still doesn't answer the several serious criticisms that you still ignore.

4) But we are talking about Corluka, Pienaar and Bassong - they would have made or squad stronger without having to buy anyone. They went because of a lack of squad rotation, which is a failing of Redknapp, ultimately, as is his tendency to create a special spirit in his starting 11 to the point of isolating non-starters. So, as a direct consequence of his amangement style, we are those three players light...and then we wouldn't have been in this situation.

5) Redknapp inherited the core of a very good squad, and Martin Jol took us to fifth twice, and once it should have been 4th. It's not like he really took us from div 3 to CL, is it!

This. What good he has done before cannot be used to cover up or excuse his obvious errors and weakness.

 

[shelfmonkey]

So basically its Levy fault, got ya

Only so far as to his managerial appointments, just like his predecessors, this leaves a helluva lot to be desired!! Let's just hope he gets it right next time!!

 

[Kingstheman]

I could do this for most positions/players in our squad but for me one of the key ones is this (and I won't bring Caulker into it, for the sake of argument):

It is not necessarily that keeping Bassong would have been a 'decision of the century', it is that Ledley King is being wrung out for every last drop when we all know he could be ruined for weeks if he is tackled wrong or slips and could be 'retired' from a heavy challenge. Indeed, if he slips the wrong way - bang - an enforced substitution.

There are always risks in getting injured, but Ledley's injury is one that just screams out, 'DO NOT RELY ON ME IN A CORNERSTONE POSITION FOR OVER 20 GAMES A SEASON!' Yet Harry has (unless you are going to claim that Levy picks the team ).

The man is being made to look like a shadow of a whisper of his former self by those titans Holt and Zamora.

If Ledley gets injured and it is a possibility every match, we are screwed.

If in the slightest of slight cases, Redknapp is manager next season he will have no King to fall back on and Bassong will be out of sorts having just had a season wasted, instead of having TRIED (after all, he is a great 'man-manager' who gets the best out of players...) to get Bassong to play competently and getting more experience into the fella, we're left with a centre half who wants off and a centre half who could be into the retirement village.

Furthermore, Ledley has gone from the player who held the sky up (like Atlas) to the player being carried. The defence has to work that much harder around him as he cannot run as he used to, he has gone from Roadrunner to the average man in terms of pace and is losing physical battles that he never would have done before. The man who caught Robben now looks like he is running through treacle and the man who used to handle Drogba with relative ease can't handle Holt or Zamora!

The right back next to him is growing but inexperienced and has played more games than most and King's presence means the back four can never be truly settled. The centre half next to him cannot rely on him so much and the left back (who is an attacking one) risks opening up a massive hole next to King if he has the audacity to go forward and we lose the ball.

It would not matter so much to me, but Ledley King is the club captain, a player for - what is it? - 14 years now and plays in one of the key positions of the football team.

If you are going to do this with any sort of player don't do it with your centre half! Basic, basic mangement.

The defence has been mismanaged, as has the strike force to a degree, as have the goalkeepers.

I don't want to personally attack Redknapp or say he is crap of to 'eff off', but these situations have been handled badly and it is not just one area that is being/has been mismanaged.

 

[Paolo10]

1) He concentrates on the first team, in a way that gets results but at the expense of leaving players tired in the final third of the season.
2) He doesn't include the squad players in his team building, so they are lacking in confidence and fitness, and feel detached.
3) He doesn't seem to have any awareness of core fitness training - contributing to the tiredness of our players.
4) He doesn't have any training for taking and defending free-kicks.
5) He makes some very strange tactical decisions - like playing 4-4-2 against Norwich, even though he knew that it would leave us open, and he could see, during the match that it was leaving us opn, but didn't make any effective tactical substitutions to adress the issue, for no other reason than that unspecified people said it made us look good.
6) He let go three players in January that many of us feel was a serious error. Yes, he is a manager at the top of the profession and we are just Internet punters, but, wake up and smell the coffee, paolo, we have won one game in nine,and that suggests there is something wrong.
7) He wants to take all the plaudits, but will not hold his hands up and admit when he makes mistakes - with idiotic excuses (see 5, above), that you seem intent on repeating to us as though they will be less idiotic with repetition.

1) The same way he protected the important players (the 1st XI, if you will) and kept the back up men for the Europa and the Shitcup and FA Cup which had a huge effect in that we started the season like a house on fire? IMO It's highly unlikely we could have it both ways.
2) ORLY? Prove it. Who are these squad players? Bassong and Corluka? If it's them, I'm pretty ok with that. As were most of you when we were winning. In fact you name one other player in the squad right now that's available and that you'd be happy to see rotate with a usual starter, I'll wait.
3) Yes I'm sure that's down to him, he counts the push ups before he tells them to "kick it around a bit"...with a coaching team full of ex-pros sitting about collecting wages for doing fuck all, and they're so 'tired' lately that they're still on top in games with a load injured. Ahh tiredness, that's it now too, tactics and tiredness, all down to HR you see.
4) Yeah, I'm sure the coaching team for a professional football team never work on set pieces ever. Substantiate this credibly and I might listen, you also do realise we're not that big a side with the exception of Dawson, Ledders (who shouldn't really be up there anyways IMO), Kaboul, Bale and Adebayor and we don't have many players if any (apart from those) who are noted for their prowess in the air. Rumour-mill bullshit.
5) Like playing 4-4-2 vs Norwich, yes that was so criminal, we actually rested VdV and Ade (Well isn't that a turn up for the books? Squad rotation, near the end of the season no less, when players usually do falter a bit) this game and gave Defoe (who scored) and Saha a game as squad players at home, and we dominated. More possession, double the chances, King had a poor game (which led to catcalls of "Ledley is done" etc.) and Norwich fought well, and defended for their lives. Final whistle goes - Oh no, it's because of 4-4-2, bollocks it was.
6) As we were out of the Europa League and were still right in the thick of it League-wise, when are you ever going to change a winning team? If he had and we'd blipped, the same people would have been all over him, like they were when the system was changed for Norwich and it didn't pay off (despite us having the better of it again) and like they are now. WE DO NOT HAVE THE PLAYERS TO PLAY A SQUAD ROTATION SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT, EVEN INCLUDING THOSE 3. Pienaar needed games after injury, Corluka needed games for the Euros, Bassong needed games for the shop window (we have been trying to sell him for a long time now, oh look he sent Wolves down, well done Seb, mon back and help us into the Top 4...errr no), you gonna drop Walker and Bale at that stage when they were ripping it up? Doubtful.

He may have let 3 go, but he brought 2 in too and they were real backup. Nelsen will just be happy to play, he has no international manager to impress or any real ambition to be in the shop window at his age, Saha was a similar story. Players that would be content to be used sparingly when needed, both with the advantage of already knowing the league very well with their wealth of experience. If I could criticise one it would be the Saha signing, but then again, we've need a striker for fuck knows how long and it would appear that we were nowhere near getting our top choices (for a change eh?). What else could HR/the Club do?
Maybe those players could potentially cause friction in the dressing room, people don't fucking know and Charlie especially seems to have spat his dummy already so fuck knows what he'd have been like as a sub to cover Walker. Would that have been good for the squad?

7) Oh Norwich was such an almighty mistake, he should be hung, drawn and quartered for that. You know what? I don't see these 'mistakes' that way, certainly not idiotic, or not as idiotic as this wall of blinkered bleating criticism with very little to back it up barring a fucking final scoreline. In football, sometimes you don't get what you deserve.

Look, Paolo, as I have explained to you, already, today, I have often been on your side in supporting Redknapp. I didn't jump to these conclusions after the ArseScum game, or after the United game, or after the Everton game. I didn't even reach these concluisons after the Norwich game. It was only after the QPR game that I came to the conclusion, not only that these criticisms are very well (I have always known, for instance, that he prefers to focus on his preferred 11), but that there are hindering us from progressing any further....

Jesus quite literally wept - those three players wanted football because Redknapp doesn't have any kind of rotation policy at all. Even now they probably wouldn't play because Redknapp doesn't have any kind of rotation policy. Rocket science it ain't. Look, it's simple - each season, CL or no CL, we hear exactly the same complaints about the players being tired and we see our form dropping off alarmingly. Redknapp employs no core fitness programme, and he sticks to his first choice players, through thick and thin. The reason he sticks to the same payers is clear, and produces results upt to a point - beyond that point, it clearly leads to tired players, a situation accerbated by the lack of core fitness....

If you think they wouldn't play, even with our injuries, you are not explaining why Redknapp didn't make a mistake in allowing them to go out on loan, you are only drawing attention to the problem - why did they want to go out on loan? They wanted to go out on loan because, where another manager could have put them to good use, especially during recent weeks, Redknapp has, instead, alienated them. We played an FA Cup semi-final with two old centre-halves who have chronic injury problems, and no cover on the bench - maybe Bassong may have been an asset. Yes, he got Nelsen to replace Bassong...but Nelsen was injured because he is an old centre-half with chronic injury problems. Walker has clearly been playing through the pain barrier quite a bit, and Corluka, as well as being a decent FB himself, can also play in the middle.

If you only realised after the QPR game, when we lost to a dodgy fk goal, in a game we dominated (while having NINE players out) at a place when other big teams have went and lost against a team fighting for their life then you (like the majority of the others enjoying full on mob/sheep mode) have fucking little degree of perspective IMO.

Only one of this unholy fucking trinity of players was even worth rotation IMO and most didn't even rate him (Pienaar) besides you and I it would have seemed, would he play ahead of Niko if he was fit? Maybe not. Corluka was so poor this season in the games he did get (while coming back from injury), let's throw him in there somewhere when we're on a purple patch eh? Fuck no, he was already ropey enough after Alan Hutton and Younes were taking his place, I don't think Harry rates him as he is too slow. I don't, for the same reason. He's not even that good a defender.

On the subject, massive LOL@Corluka playing 'in the middle' btw, yeah he's done that loads for us and it went really well. No wait, he hasn't and when he has it didn't...and Bassong an asset? Nah, he's surplus, hence why we're trying to get rid and have been for a while. He's actually a fucking liability.

How many players are complaining about being tired or is it other posters saying they 'look tired' etc.? The same players that got midweek Europe and the shitcup off most of the time to save them for the League. 2 matches in a week, tops? What a hard life.

So let's look at the 9 games from a statistical perspective, most of the dissenters riding the shitty crest of the wave of negativity lap this stats shit up, so I did a little bit on the 'Nasty 9'. You see what you make from these numbers...

Funny how we're being so poorly managed and yet we're dominating most aspects of the matches in practically every one in the last 8 we've dropped points from... funny how the players being tired and the shit tactics are seemingly causing this effect too, it can't be as simple as injuries taking itheir toll and a slice of poor fortune with individual errors etc. No it must be more than that, there has to be someone to blame.

Blame the manager, fucking sack him, get rid, fuck off to England, enough is enough etc. WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER BOLLOCKS, if the majority of those statistics were the other way around you all might have a point, but they're not, and you don't IMO.

 

[StartingPrice]

Funny how we're being so poorly managed and yet we're dominating most aspects of the matches in practically every one in the last 8 we've dropped points from... funny how the players being tired and the shit tactics are seemingly causing this effect too, it can't be as simple as injuries taking itheir toll and a slice of poor fortune with indiviual errors etc. No it must be more than that, there has to be someone to blame.

Blame the manager, fucking sack him, get rid, fuck off to England, enough is enough etc. WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER BOLLOCKS, if the majority of those statistics were the other way around you all might have a point, but they're not, and you don't IMO.

Okay, Paolo, me old China, I'll answer this in more detail later, as I have to opo out, but I will comment on this NOW:

For you to say this just shows how completely and utterly contemptuous you are of what any other member of this forum says as most of us have over and over (AND FUCKING OVER), largely just to placate loons like you if these exact aren't included in every single post, that we are not saying (as in NOT) that we are being poorly managed. For fuck sake, we have said it over and over (AND FUCKING OVER) again for you, and you are still fuming your pathetic little psychotic rant at anyone who dares to make any criticism whatsoever. We have said constanty (like CONSTANTLY) that we ARE fucking happy at what he has done for us and we are not wanting to be disrespectful, but that something is wrong - MEMO TO PAOLO - WE HAVE WON 1 GAME IN 9, SOMETHING IS FUCKING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't you get it: I, personally, have said several times in this thread alone, that maybe he has just taken us as far as he can, and explained in detail WHY. In which case, Thank You Mr Redknapp and good luck with the England job. Why do you have to react to any attempt to analyse the situation, to find an anser to what is going on, or to ask if Redknapp has taken us as far as he can, as though we are some kind of heinous snivelling traitors, unworthy to share the same forum with shining parragon of loyal virtue, Paolo. I have said, several times, that if does get us into the CL, but doesn't get the England job, I suppose he has earned a right to carry-on with the team - but this tendency towardds falling off in the final third of the season has to be a concern (like, even to you, Paolo).

Get a grip for fuck sake!

Do you understand this: Saying the wheels have come off and discussing the reason why is not the same as saying Redknapp is an utterly shite manager who has done fuck all for us.

And what makes me really, really laugh is that I have often defended Redknapp myself often, on this forum, often in conjunction with you, and I have went out of my fucking way to be placatary with you in particular on this thread - and yet you insist on making everything a shouting swearing insulting fucking rant.

MEMO TO PAOLO: WE HAVE WON ONE FUCKING GAME IN FUCKING NINE AND GONE FROM 10 POINTS CLEAR IN THIRD, AND TWO GOALS UP AT THE EMIRATES, TO 3 POINTS BEHIND IN FUCKING FIFTH AND FUCKING HOPING THAT OTHER FUCKING TEAMS CAN DO US A FUCKING FAVOUR WHEN OUR TARGET AT THE START OF THE SEASON WAS TO QUALIFY FOR THE FUCKING CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, SO FAILING TO DO SO MEANS REDKNAPP HAS FAILED AS MANAGER AND THE FUCKING GUY THE FUCKING BUCK FUCKING STOPS WITH FUCKING HIM. Savvy?

Oh, yeah, and mostly we have been resolute in saying it would be ridiculous, knee-jerk, disrespectful and counter-productive to sack him - but, as with 99.9% of what other folk say to you, Paolo, you fucking choose to fucking ignore it!

 

[StartingPrice]

1) The same way he protected the important players (the 1st XI, if you will) and kept the back up men for the Europa and the Shitcup and FA Cup which had a huge effect in that we started the season like a house on fire? IMO It's highly unlikely we could have it both ways.

2) ORLY? Prove it. Who are these squad players? Bassong and Corluka? If it's them, I'm pretty ok with that. As were most of you when we were winning. In fact you name one other player in the squad right now that's available and that you'd be happy to see rotate with a usual starter, I'll wait.

1) Firstly, I hated the way he treated the Europa. secondly, I love the way that in Point 2, below, you demand to see conclusive proof, and yet, here, when it suits your purpose you find it sufficient to say it is highly unlikely IYO that we could start well and finish well. Apart from the fact that it proves the very point you are supposedly arguing against (that it is part of Redknapp's MO at this level to finish seasons quite poorly due to inherent deficiencies in his management style, and having reached his level), it also denies the evidence that virtually every team we have played in the last nine matches, which includes teams at the top, teams inmidtable, and teams at the bottom, have looked fitter and sharper than us (sorry, have no stats for what I see with my own eyes ). You see, Paolo, if virtually every other team looks fitter, via a process of deductive reasoning, I conclude that we are tired in the final third of the season. As it is a well known fact (surely, even you cannot dispute that he is renowned for preferring to stick as close to his starting 11 throughout the season), I, again, believe it is a reasonable inference that this is, at least potetnially, a factor in the seeming tiredness of our preferred starting 11. So, why is it highly unlikely that we could have it both ways - other than it suits your purposes to say so? Is it because our players are significantly inferior to, say, the Arsenal players, or the Newcastle players (who look very fresh), or even the United/Citeh players. Because, from where I am standing, I see it as very probable that this is related to certain tendencies of his, and not something we should put our hands up wisfully and say "Oh well, other teams may be able to stay the season, but, poor little us, we just can't...boo hoo." What a pile of pish.

2) You won;t have to wait long: Asking me to prove it, is, like, something a 10 year old would say, paolo. It is also a bit of a cop out stipulating that only players availabe right now can be included.
For a start, as has been explained to you previously, saying that Corluka wasn't great on the rare occasion he got a run-out is, effectively, putting the cart before the horse. You have to ask why a full-back who most of us consider to be highly competent, all of a sudden can't get a game, adn when he does he looks of the pace. Could it, at all, be related to the fact that he isn;t getting games, and when he does they are few and far between, making it impossible for him to build up any form or fitness. Because, again, that is down to the fact that he isn't getting a run-out.
Secondly, no, not just Corluka and Bassong - you have slipped into being pathetically trite, once again. In case you haven't noticed, we have a named squad of 25 players that we have to provide to the PL, and Redknapp has been here for 3 and 2/3rd seasons, now, so any deficiencies in the squad (including players who are named in the squad but not available nad players who are so fecking sheeee-ite that he can;t trust them on the pitch for even 10 minutes) are entirely down to him.
Thirdly, of those players who went out in January, including Townsend, I would be quite happy to see Pienaar getting a lot of game time (as I said several times), I said before the start of the season that I would be happy to see Corluka and Lennon (sic.) starting and Walker being eased in; it stands to reason, then, that I would be happy to have seen him rotated regularly and, as stated, Walker has clearly been playing through the pain barrier at times. Bassong, again, might have looked better if he was trusted and given a run out more - but, the important thing (and this is where you don't seem to have answered the point I made, at all, just shifted the focus to being about which of our squad players I would play), is that the point was concerning Redknapp's methodology of focussing on his preferred starters, to the exclusion of the outsiders. If Bassong had been happy to stay, which he clearly wasn't but may have been if he had been handled differently, we wouldn't have been going into a Cup semi-final with two old and crocked centre-halves and not one fecking central defender on the bench. I would happily have give Townsend regular run-outs as I think he is very direct and driven - right and left.
I would also give Krankjar a regular run-out with the provisio that he was fit and motivated and played in the correct position and with the correct tactics. I would have quite have seen Sandro getting a regular run-out (shock fecking horror to that one, eh ). I have always considered Danny Rosse to have done a reasonable job, and would not be overly concerned with him coming on. I rate Livermore...do I need to fecking continue
But the point, that you so spectacularly ignore, is that, by concentrating on his preferred starters and not extending his man-management to those outside that list that he has no immediate need for, he alienates players so that they want to go, rather than stay and be important members of our squad. Can I prove that - well, what do you want, a queue of shame-faced players, heads hung low, muttering to ultra-loyal Paolo, "sorry, but I did feel alienated." I can tell you what I know, know for a fact, and that is that every single one of those players had to listen to his platitudes, through the press (and, therefore, I would deduce, even more behind closed doors), that they were mportant members of his squad and they would get game time, and he hadn't forgotten about them and he thought highly of them and blah de blah de fecking blah, only to, then, not get those run-outs and that game time. I am going to remind you agian, as, not unusually, you totally ignored it the first time: Redknapp bought Bassong and bummed him up to the high fecking heavens, if he is soooo sheeeee-ite then Redknapp has to admit that he paid quite a lot of money for a duff player, and if he is a decent player, worthy of being built up to be Mohammed I'm fecking hard Bruce Lee and going to get game time and in his thoughts and bhal blah, why did he never give him the game time.
And, finally, can we get back to the fecking point: there were players who reacted in exactly the same way to Redknapp at Pompey. Redknapp is well known for creating this team-spirit with his preferred starting team. No, I can't prove that those left out are left out and feeling alienated, but as seen as so many squad players say that is how they feel, adn are not happy to stay and want to go (more than with teams like Arsenal, for instance), I think it is a fair inference that there may, at least be something there, don't you? It may not be all true, but, surely, you must be able to see that Redknapp is not fecking perfect, and makes occasional mistakes and has mistakes in his methodology, so that it is fair to assume that this is not just hordes of ex/excluded players who poor old affable 'Arry has treated like his very sons, out of pure spite making sheeee-ite up to disguise the fact that they are pure sheeee-ite players...surely.

 

[Paolo10]

Tell me really, with regards these last 8 game you're all getting your fucking knickers twisted over, what part of those games and the performances barring the scorelines aren't you happy with?

Only Swansea had more of the ball than us and guess what? We beat them.

With the way injuries have went what the fuck could he have done differently? Kept Bassong and Corluka? What fucking difference would that make in games we're dominating besides make us dodgy at the back?

Besides sub himself on and stick away a few of the chances we create (again usually a lot more than our recent opposition), what more can he fucking so? He plays his best team and he's short sighted, he rotates and it's games for the boys, but it's all hunky dory when we win.

Why have we had this blip? My crazy theory is we've been unlucky, with chances, with injuries, with decisions and with individual errors. Most of this lot can't wait to tear into the manager, some notable by their absence when we were flying...you're just joining in, carried away by the wave of utter shite posted incessantly over and over again until it sticks somehow, somewhere. Tactics, the things he says, the decisions he makes, unsubstantiated rumours and media spin.

It's fucking sad, especially when people you'd think can see how much we've came on... and you know what else? People write off teams below us when they're actually decent sides, but we've still been dominating most of them and not getting hat we deserve.

...and furthermore, our squad has needed strengthening more for a good while now and the club fluffed it, yet half blamed Harry for that too as he 'couldn't make his mind up' etc.

Whatever he does and the decisions he makes around Spurs and there's the same people ready to have their go, it's fucking horrible and I don't like it. You check any thread lately and they're all there, repping eachother senseless and backslapping the bit out while ridiculing anyone who doesn't share the same shitty, heavily flawed opinion that is growing like a fucking cancerous tumour.

 

[StartingPrice]

3) Yes I'm sure that's down to him, he counts the push ups before he tells them to "kick it around a bit"...with a coaching team full of ex-pros sitting about collecting wages for doing fuck all, and they're so 'tired' lately that they're still on top in games with a load injured. Ahh tiredness, that's it now too, tactics and tiredness, all down to HR you see.
4) Yeah, I'm sure the coaching team for a professional football team never work on set pieces ever. Substantiate this credibly and I might listen, you also do realise we're not that big a side with the exception of Dawson, Ledders (who shouldn't really be up there anyways IMO), Kaboul, Bale and Adebayor and we don't have many players if any (apart from those) who are noted for their prowess in the air. Rumour-mill bullshit.
5) Like playing 4-4-2 vs Norwich, yes that was so criminal, we actually rested VdV and Ade (Well isn't that a turn up for the books? Squad rotation, near the end of the season no less, when players usually do falter a bit) this game and gave Defoe (who scored) and Saha a game as squad players at home, and we dominated. More possession, double the chances, King had a poor game (which led to catcalls of "Ledley is done" etc.) and Norwich fought well, and defended for their lives. Final whistle goes - Oh no, it's because of 4-4-2, bollocks it was.

3) Firstly, who the feck do you think it is down to? The manager should oversee every aspect of the club. He delegates. If the people below him are being negligent in an important part of our preparation, he should be on top of it...instead, he doesn't even seem to be aware that there is a problem. A manager should delegate responsibility, while keeping overall charge and disciplining negligence, he shouldn't just adapt a laissez faire approach of hiring folk adn saying train them for me. If you believe that, Gawd 'elp us.
Secondly, he, him, Harry Redknapp, Mr Redknapp, is paid a small fecking fortune, if he can't be bothered keeping up with developments in fitness training, being aware of current standard practice amongst his rivals, etc, then he, personally, is not working as hard as he could be, IMHO. I would expect on a 50th of his wage to be more professional.
Lack of core fitness training seems to be an area where are players are entering the final 3rd of the season with a fitness deficit viz our rivals.
Therefore, if he is not aware of core fitness training, or not bothering to suggest his underlings should include it in our fitness programme, then he is directly contributing to a lack of fitness in our players entering the final 3rd of the season

4) Well, Paolo, you have surpassed yourself in idiocy on this one:
There have been persistent rumours that we do not practice set-pieces. There was al alleged meeting days ago, where senior players sent representations to Levy, and the most specific complaint was that there was no practice nor preparation of set-pieces. JJ, one of the most respected ITKs on the site, pretty much confrmed this. We can all (except the members of Paolo-Myopic World), can see that we are conceding goals from set-pieces that look very, very soft, and look like a team that isn;t practicing set-piece defending (not proof-positive, for sure, but the type of little hint that normal people look for when trying to verify if the persistent rumours and alleged specific representations of senior players mention). Likewise, we just do not sscore from set-pieces, our ineptitude is legendary, LEGENDARY. There have been threads on it on this forum - did you miss them. We just do not score from set-pieces. What is this? Is it demons that do floateth in mid-air conniving in a most diabolic fashion, me lord, to drive a consternation amongst us for we cannot hope to score form said set-pieces. FFS, what do you think it is...we are just serially unlucky? We have hired a set of players hwo are all, conincidentally accursed of fate? FFS.
Secondly, you say we are not a big team (do I realise this ), and then name five of our players who are big. Everton had a team of notorious midgets - I bet they scored more from set-pieces than this Spurs team does. It only takes one tall player to provide knock-downs.
Thridly, where did I restrict to crosses aimed for players to head the ball - or do you think that is the only way for a team to be successful at set-pieces. We don't from direct free-kicks of any variation, we don't score from set-pieces of any variation, we don't score from corners of any variation.
If Redknapp is drilling these players in set-pieces and they concede so many and score so few, he wants to fecking sack them and buy some new ones who can, FFS.

5) I wouldn't disagree with a lot of the content of your this one (littlle bits and pieces, maybe), but it the problem is that it wasn;t me who say the problem was paying 4-4-2 against Norwich, it was Redknapp. He said he knew it left us open in the middle, and it did, and he could see that it did but still didn't change it. PLaying 4-4-2, if he wants, is fine (so long as the performance is good and we win a fair few), playing 4-4-2 and then saying you knew it would leave us open and it did and you could see that it did but not changing it - that has to rate as a strange tactical decision, and from his own mouth.
I would have played Sandro if I wanted to rest Parker.

 

[StartingPrice]

Tell me really, with regards these last 8 game you're all getting your fucking knickers twisted over, what part of those games and the performances barring the scorelines aren't you happy with?

Only Swansea had more of the ball than us and guess what? We beat them.

With the way injuries have went what the fuck could he have done differently? Kept Bassong and Corluka? What fucking difference would that make in games we're dominating besides make us dodgy at the back?

Besides sub himself on and stick away a few of the chances we create (again usually a lot more than our recent opposition), what more can he fucking so? He plays his best team and he's short sighted, he rotates and it's games for the boys, but it's all hunky dory when we win.

Why have we had this blip? My crazy theory is we've been unlucky, with chances, with injuries, with decisions and with individual errors. Most of this lot can't wait to tear into the manager, some notable by their absence when we were flying...you're just joining in, carried away by the wave of utter shite posted incessantly over and over again until it sticks somehow, somewhere. Tactics, the things he says, the decisions he makes, unsubstantiated rumours and media spin.

It's fucking sad, especially when people you'd think can see how much we've came on... and you know what else? People write off teams below us when they're actually decent sides, but we've still been dominating most of them and not getting hat we deserve.

...and furthermore, our squad has needed strengthening more for a good while now and the club fluffed it, yet half blamed Harry for that too as he 'couldn't make his mind up' etc.

Whatever he does and the decisions he makes around Spurs and there's the same people ready to have their go, it's fucking horrible and I don't like it. You check any thread lately and they're all there, repping eachother senseless and backslapping the bit out while ridiculing anyone who doesn't share the same shitty, heavily flawed opinion that is growing like a fucking cancerous tumour.

We aren't happy with the bits were we may not be winning due to a combination of factors that could have some truth in them that all mount up to the fact that Redknapp may have taken us as far as he can, and where we suspect with this group of players (the ones we started with in August), a manager with a few extra qualities could possibly squeeze wins out where Redknapp is getting draws and losses. Tough and a little harsh...but it's tough at the top, which is, pretty much, were we are/are aspiring to be.

Most of us don't the serious abuse, and, as I have said over and over, most of us aren't screaming that he should be sacked, just that he has maybe taken him as far as he can, thank him for his achievements and wish him well in the England job...unfortunately, you react to even reasonable criticism with unreason and abuse.

As I have said, several times, I have always been agianst the anti-Redknapp brigade, and some of the sheeee-ite has been horrible, but there is something wrong, and the most plausible explanation is that each one of the core criticisms I provided have at least some validity which add up to him being just slightly below the highest level of manager, who has done well for us, but can't take it that final inch. The fact that some folk are unreasonable doesn't really justify you reacting hysterically to fair criticism. And the truth is, we have won one game in nine...that is disastrous by anyone's standard. How do you think folk should react to that - if we all just sat with inane grins on our faces, then, surely we would be the sheep you accuse us of. Paolo, something is wrong.

 

[ItsBoris]

Harry's 'failing' (if you can call it that, which you arguably could) is trying to keep everyone happy. The Chairman, the Board, the Players (Corluka, Pienaar, JD, Rafa, Bassong etc.), the Fans (LOL, although you wouldn't want to think it now).
Then there's the added pressure of the court case and to cap it all off, due to the amazing football we've player prior to the rut (in which in a fair few games we haven't gotten what we've deserved by any means) and in fact the progress we've made under his tenure, Harry is now the media darling for the England job.

The media told everyone that we play amazing football, I didn't really buy it. We played pretty darn good football for about 30 minutes before shutting off, letting the opponent get a goal and holding on for dear life for the entire second half.

If we played amazing football, maybe you can explain to me why in 2 seasons we have only won 3 games by more than 2 goals. (IE scorelines of 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, etc). 2 of the 3 times was against 10 men or less. By contrast, Man City have done so 19 times. ALL of the top 7 clubs have won by 3 goal margins more than we have in the last 2 seasons, AS WELL AS the likes of BOLTON, West Brom, Sunderland, Fulham, Swansea (in just 1 season), and other Prem teams (can't remember who now though but you can easily look it up).

Now IMO great football is about scoring goals, putting the opposition to the sword and winning games. I don't think passing it around with little end product or seeing the team stop playing after the first half is that brilliant to watch, it is more tedious actually. Also if you look at our record against the top teams in the past 2 seasons, we have a negative record - Man City - 3 losses, 1 draw. Man Utd - 3 losses, 1 draw. Chelsea - 2 losses, 3 draws. Arsenal - 2 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw. But against Arsenal, our wins were by 1 goal, while their wins were by 3 goals. So negative records against all of last season's top 4. Is this brilliant football?

No imo, more likely the fluidity of our passing, and narrow wins papered over the obvious cracks. How anyone can argue that we play better football than Man City for instance, with their goal difference, number of wins, number of wins by 3 or more goals, is pretty baffling and indicates to me that many of our fans have bought into the propaganda perpetuated by Redknapp's friends in the media. Just my opinion.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

1) The same way he protected the important players (the 1st XI, if you will) and kept the back up men for the Europa and the Shitcup and FA Cup which had a huge effect in that we started the season like a house on fire? IMO It's highly unlikely we could have it both ways.
2) ORLY? Prove it. Who are these squad players? Bassong and Corluka? If it's them, I'm pretty ok with that. As were most of you when we were winning. In fact you name one other player in the squad right now that's available and that you'd be happy to see rotate with a usual starter, I'll wait.
3) Yes I'm sure that's down to him, he counts the push ups before he tells them to "kick it around a bit"...with a coaching team full of ex-pros sitting about collecting wages for doing fuck all, and they're so 'tired' lately that they're still on top in games with a load injured. Ahh tiredness, that's it now too, tactics and tiredness, all down to HR you see.
4) Yeah, I'm sure the coaching team for a professional football team never work on set pieces ever. Substantiate this credibly and I might listen, you also do realise we're not that big a side with the exception of Dawson, Ledders (who shouldn't really be up there anyways IMO), Kaboul, Bale and Adebayor and we don't have many players if any (apart from those) who are noted for their prowess in the air. Rumour-mill bullshit.
5) Like playing 4-4-2 vs Norwich, yes that was so criminal, we actually rested VdV and Ade (Well isn't that a turn up for the books? Squad rotation, near the end of the season no less, when players usually do falter a bit) this game and gave Defoe (who scored) and Saha a game as squad players at home, and we dominated. More possession, double the chances, King had a poor game (which led to catcalls of "Ledley is done" etc.) and Norwich fought well, and defended for their lives. Final whistle goes - Oh no, it's because of 4-4-2, bollocks it was.
6) As we were out of the Europa League and were still right in the thick of it League-wise, when are you ever going to change a winning team? If he had and we'd blipped, the same people would have been all over him, like they were when the system was changed for Norwich and it didn't pay off (despite us having the better of it again) and like they are now. WE DO NOT HAVE THE PLAYERS TO PLAY A SQUAD ROTATION SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT, EVEN INCLUDING THOSE 3. Pienaar needed games after injury, Corluka needed games for the Euros, Bassong needed games for the shop window (we have been trying to sell him for a long time now, oh look he sent Wolves down, well done Seb, mon back and help us into the Top 4...errr no), you gonna drop Walker and Bale at that stage when they were ripping it up? Doubtful.

He may have let 3 go, but he brought 2 in too and they were real backup. Nelsen will just be happy to play, he has no international manager to impress or any real ambition to be in the shop window at his age, Saha was a similar story. Players that would be content to be used sparingly when needed, both with the advantage of already knowing the league very well with their wealth of experience. If I could criticise one it would be the Saha signing, but then again, we've need a striker for fuck knows how long and it would appear that we were nowhere near getting our top choices (for a change eh?). What else could HR/the Club do?
Maybe those players could potentially cause friction in the dressing room, people don't fucking know and Charlie especially seems to have spat his dummy already so fuck knows what he'd have been like as a sub to cover Walker. Would that have been good for the squad?

7) Oh Norwich was such an almighty mistake, he should be hung, drawn and quartered for that. You know what? I don't see these 'mistakes' that way, certainly not idiotic, or not as idiotic as this wall of blinkered bleating criticism with very little to back it up barring a fucking final scoreline. In football, sometimes you don't get what you deserve.



If you only realised after the QPR game, when we lost to a dodgy fk goal, in a game we dominated (while having NINE players out) at a place when other big teams have went and lost against a team fighting for their life then you (like the majority of the others enjoying full on mob/sheep mode) have fucking little degree of perspective IMO.

Only one of this unholy fucking trinity of players was even worth rotation IMO and most didn't even rate him (Pienaar) besides you and I it would have seemed, would he play ahead of Niko if he was fit? Maybe not. Corluka was so poor this season in the games he did get (while coming back from injury), let's throw him in there somewhere when we're on a purple patch eh? Fuck no, he was already ropey enough after Alan Hutton and Younes were taking his place, I don't think Harry rates him as he is too slow. I don't, for the same reason. He's not even that good a defender.

On the subject, massive LOL@Corluka playing 'in the middle' btw, yeah he's done that loads for us and it went really well. No wait, he hasn't and when he has it didn't...and Bassong an asset? Nah, he's surplus, hence why we're trying to get rid and have been for a while. He's actually a fucking liability.

How many players are complaining about being tired or is it other posters saying they 'look tired' etc.? The same players that got midweek Europe and the shitcup off most of the time to save them for the League. 2 matches in a week, tops? What a hard life.

So let's look at the 9 games from a statistical perspective, most of the dissenters riding the shitty crest of the wave of negativity lap this stats shit up, so I did a little bit on the 'Nasty 9'. You see what you make from these numbers...

Funny how we're being so poorly managed and yet we're dominating most aspects of the matches in practically every one in the last 8 we've dropped points from... funny how the players being tired and the shit tactics are seemingly causing this effect too, it can't be as simple as injuries taking itheir toll and a slice of poor fortune with individual errors etc. No it must be more than that, there has to be someone to blame.

Blame the manager, fucking sack him, get rid, fuck off to England, enough is enough etc. WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER BOLLOCKS, if the majority of those statistics were the other way around you all might have a point, but they're not, and you don't IMO.

I just want to say, because they didn't have a little cartoon award that says it; anyone who comes back at SP with a page long answer deserves an "balls the size of elephants" award. Treat this post as your warm up.

You actually make some fair points in there Paolo. Which is weird.

Where we disagree is that I think Redknapp's deficiencies were showing equally when we were on a good run of results as they are now, I think some people are criticising him now for those same things when they were previously ignoring them 6 months ago.

But just as back then, recently he has also done some good things (choices, tactics, formations etc) and in some of the games the performances have been as good as some of those from earlier in the season. Results altar a lot of peoples perspectives.

With regard to the Norwich game which you made a point of defending I would say this. It wasn't just that he rotated one player, he left out our three most important players, two of whom had actually had recent time out through injury (lengthy in VDV's case). He then compounded that by instead of playing Sandro (also left on the bench) - who had performed well in recent games and is our best defensive/ball winning midfielder, playing a midfield that contained no player capable of tenacity, and a midfield 4 at that, with two flimsy strikers that don't see much ball or defend well ahead of them.

If he'd just rested Parker and brought in Sandro and kept the tactics of the previous 4 games that had seen us dominate games it might have been OK, but he made too many changes of both personnel, formation and tactics, we were open, unable to win the ball and the possession stat is slightly skewed by the fact that when Norwich got 2-1 away at WHL they became less ambitious and let us have the ball and pressed us. Up to that point I'd have said the possession was much closer. But worse is the fact that we never had any real control or rhythm in that game. The performance was poor. 3 shots on target at home against a side that did not park the bus until the 70th minute or so was a fair representation in this case of how bad we were that day. We were bullied at home by fucking Norwich as a direct result of the raft of changes (personnel and tactics) Redknapp made.

With regards to some of the other games (Sunderland, QPR) some of the shit offered as criticism is laughable (players not trying etc).

 

[StartingPrice]

6) As we were out of the Europa League and were still right in the thick of it League-wise, when are you ever going to change a winning team? If he had and we'd blipped, the same people would have been all over him, like they were when the system was changed for Norwich and it didn't pay off (despite us having the better of it again) and like they are now. WE DO NOT HAVE THE PLAYERS TO PLAY A SQUAD ROTATION SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT, EVEN INCLUDING THOSE 3. Pienaar needed games after injury, Corluka needed games for the Euros, Bassong needed games for the shop window (we have been trying to sell him for a long time now, oh look he sent Wolves down, well done Seb, mon back and help us into the Top 4...errr no), you gonna drop Walker and Bale at that stage when they were ripping it up? Doubtful.

He may have let 3 go, but he brought 2 in too and they were real backup. Nelsen will just be happy to play, he has no international manager to impress or any real ambition to be in the shop window at his age, Saha was a similar story. Players that would be content to be used sparingly when needed, both with the advantage of already knowing the league very well with their wealth of experience. If I could criticise one it would be the Saha signing, but then again, we've need a striker for fuck knows how long and it would appear that we were nowhere near getting our top choices (for a change eh?). What else could HR/the Club do?
Maybe those players could potentially cause friction in the dressing room, people don't fucking know and Charlie especially seems to have spat his dummy already so fuck knows what he'd have been like as a sub to cover Walker. Would that have been good for the squad?

7) Oh Norwich was such an almighty mistake, he should be hung, drawn and quartered for that. You know what? I don't see these 'mistakes' that way, certainly not idiotic, or not as idiotic as this wall of blinkered bleating criticism with very little to back it up barring a fucking final scoreline. In football, sometimes you don't get what you deserve.

6) Look Paolo, it is simple, we have four (not 3, four - I count Townsend in this) players on our books who I really believe we could have done with over the last few weeks. We allowed those 4 to go out on loan, we didn;t even sell them for a transfer fee - they are still ours, we just can't use them. And we replaced them with Nelsen. Not Nelsen and Saha - Saha replaced Pavlychenko. So, we replaced 4 players under 30, all of whom were fit, one of whom could play across the defence, and one across the middle, with one 34 year old with injury problems who hadn't played all season. That was, IMHO, an error of judgement - give it all of the ifs and buts and maybies you want, but saying they wouldn;t have played is just putting the cart before the horse AGAIN.

7) Sorry, Paolo, but your answer doesn't even relate to the criticism. That was that he is happy to take the plaudits but never seems happy to accept he has made mistakes.That is not just something about this season - it is an observation based on his time at the Lane. He makes mistakes, everyone does, he just won't admit it - but he likes it when he is getting the credit. I didn't mention the Norwich game, you did - but, okay, let's go with that. His reason for the defeat is that we were too open because we played 4-4-2, but that he only played it because (unspecified) people said we look good when we play it. So, why not say he got it wrong, playing 4-4-2, or he shouldn't have listened to those (unslecified) people, or admit that the could see in the game what his earlier premonition was (that we would be too open) and he should have changed it decisively? You know what, Paolo, I've seen Beetroot Head Ferguson (who I loathe and despise with a passion) being interviewed after a match and admit to making mistakes and accepting that he was responsible. It is a criticism and a valid one.

 

[StartingPrice]

If you only realised after the QPR game, when we lost to a dodgy fk goal, in a game we dominated (while having NINE players out) at a place when other big teams have went and lost against a team fighting for their life then you (like the majority of the others enjoying full on mob/sheep mode) have fucking little degree of perspective IMO.

Only one of this unholy fucking trinity of players was even worth rotation IMO and most didn't even rate him (Pienaar) besides you and I it would have seemed, would he play ahead of Niko if he was fit? Maybe not. Corluka was so poor this season in the games he did get (while coming back from injury), let's throw him in there somewhere when we're on a purple patch eh? Fuck no, he was already ropey enough after Alan Hutton and Younes were taking his place, I don't think Harry rates him as he is too slow. I don't, for the same reason. He's not even that good a defender.

On the subject, massive LOL@Corluka playing 'in the middle' btw, yeah he's done that loads for us and it went really well. No wait, he hasn't and when he has it didn't...and Bassong an asset? Nah, he's surplus, hence why we're trying to get rid and have been for a while. He's actually a fucking liability.

How many players are complaining about being tired or is it other posters saying they 'look tired' etc.? The same players that got midweek Europe and the shitcup off most of the time to save them for the League. 2 matches in a week, tops? What a hard life.

So let's look at the 9 games from a statistical perspective, most of the dissenters riding the shitty crest of the wave of negativity lap this stats shit up, so I did a little bit on the 'Nasty 9'. You see what you make from these numbers...

Funny how we're being so poorly managed and yet we're dominating most aspects of the matches in practically every one in the last 8 we've dropped points from... funny how the players being tired and the shit tactics are seemingly causing this effect too, it can't be as simple as injuries taking itheir toll and a slice of poor fortune with individual errors etc. No it must be more than that, there has to be someone to blame.

Blame the manager, fucking sack him, get rid, fuck off to England, enough is enough etc. WHAT A LOAD OF UTTER BOLLOCKS, if the majority of those statistics were the other way around you all might have a point, but they're not, and you don't IMO.

We lost the QPR game, that is the important bit.
What I realised was that a blip is over 2 or 3 games, and it is okay to point out that a blip can be down to a few individual errors or bad luck, but this 1 win in 9 fecking games, Palo, and warranted being claled a crisis. It is relegation form...every bid as bad as the form Ramos was sacked for. There were games we lost/drew in Ramos last 8 games were we were massively unlucky not to win, were we battered teams - but it all added up to 2 draws in 8 games. This adds up to 1 win and 9, and there is no hiding from it. It doesn't matter how many small factors are all coagulating to cause this - it is a crisis. I realised that after the QPR game. It is time to look for those reasons - even if some of them are miniscule, and some of them are overblown - they all add together. I also realised that the players really did look tired, and the players and Redknapp looked totally bereft of ideas. Come on, Paolo, when it is another loss, making it a run of one win in nine, and the players look tired, and the players an manager look bereft of ideas, aren't we allowed to say we are genuinely worried without being labelled treacherous back-stabbing scum? Oh, yeah, and not long before the QPR game a cup final and third was a distinct possibility...after it we knew there was no cup final, the players didn't even lift themselves up from that, nor the Arsenal/Chelsea draw that played to our advantage, adn we knew that we would need a miracle and favours from other teams to even get 4th.

I don't really care if most didn't rate Pienaar, I did. But I also think Corluka was worth rotating, as said above, and I make it four players, and not three, as I would have kept Townsend, and yes, I would have given him game time, too. So, that is three out of the four I would've happily played, and, as said above, it would have been nice to have kept Bassong on board enough to have stayed until the Summer - we certainly could have done with him on the bench at Wembley. My estimation of Corluka doesn;t match yours - I think he was a decent player for us (strange how you get apoplectic over any criticism of Redknapp and yet are so disrespectful of a pro like Corluka, who served us well enough). The only validity you can find is that a player who hasn;t played and is coming back from injury is not as good as before he got injured - WOW.

I never said Corluka was an amazing centre-half, I said he gave us an option in there...obviously the nuance passed you by. And none of us (apart from Redknapp when he bought him and fap fap fapped all over him for, was it £8 or £10 million he paid Newcastle), but Bassong is enough of an asset for me to have wanted him on the bench at Wembley.

I agree with you - these payers get paid a fecking fortune to keep fit, and don;t really have a hard life. And, yeah, Redknapp did keep them from the Europa - much to my chagrain, and I remember VdV not being enamoured of that, either. He did that to keep the players fresh for a push at CL qualification. Well, er...yeah. He can't balem the Europa, he can't blame playing in the CL, like he did when we imploded last season - was what is the cause of this implosion? And if the players are tired, why (the buck stops with him)? And if the players aren't tired, why do they bluddy look like they are?

I didn't need your table to tell me what I knew - yeah, we have dominated games, yeah, we have had plenty of shots on and off target, yeah we have been unlucky. But margins are fine at the top, adn we are missing the margins - it is legitimate to question the style of management when that happens. Maybe you are, but I am not happy to accept quaint little Tottenham, aren't they cure, they might not trouble the big boys, but they are exciting adn they play pretty football. Feck that, I want to see this team winning again, winning trophies, competing at the very top of the league, and if to do that means to question managers, no matter how much they have done for us, when it is clear that they are falling below those margins, no matter how tiny they are, then I'll do it. I won't kneejerk, I won't be fickle, but by feck, when we win one game in nine so that our whole season is in jeopardy and it si clear that we are mssing out on those margins, I will question it, and I'll do so without the likes of you treating me like a back-stabbing traitor.

I have already answered the rest, above.

FFS, Paolo, most of us are grateful for what he has done, the more sensible ones want him to get the England job, so he can go with some dignity, and want him to get it after taking us into the CL again, so he can take the England job with some pride. Most of us will continue supporting the team, and him...and, as I said, if he takes us into the CL next season, and doesn't get the England job, then I suppose he has a right to go again. But we have won one game in nine, our season is in disarray, and his Spurs team seem to have a predisposition towards imploding in the final third of the season. if he has reached his level and taken us as far as he can, it is important that we acknowledge that, rather thanblindly supporting him, hushing upany criticism when we are being let in the Beyond Rhyme & Reason league by a 107 year old Rednkapp who still believes we are in the CL and may have a heart-attack if the truth is revealed. Mostly, we will be delighted if he turns it around...and some of us still believe he can. And most of us don't want him to be sacked at this stage. But

 

[TheGreenLily]

He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

 

[TheGreenLily]

FFS, Paolo, most of us are grateful for what he has done, the more sensible ones want him to get the England job, so he can go with some dignity, and want him to get it after taking us into the CL again, so he can take the England job with some pride. Most of us will continue supporting the team, and him...and, as I said, if he takes us into the CL next season, and doesn't get the England job, then I suppose he has a right to go again. But we have won one game in nine, our season is in disarray, and his Spurs team seem to have a predisposition towards imploding in the final third of the season. if he has reached his level and taken us as far as he can, it is important that we acknowledge that, rather than blindly supporting him, hushing up any criticism when we are being let in the Beyond Rhyme & Reason league by a 107 year old Rednkapp who still believes we are in the CL and may have a heart-attack if the truth is revealed. Mostly, we will be delighted if he turns it around...and some of us still believe he can. And most of us don't want him to be sacked at this stage. But

Despite my anger and absolute verbal attack on HR recently, even I still appreciate what he has done for us. Not everything he has done is bad and he had settled the ship so to speak.... well up until the Arsenal game, then it has been a dive bomb to lower reaches of hell for last two month resulting in the club being utterly humiliated, due to Harry's failures on so many points.

Paulo10, you can use all the statistics you want, but statistics only shows a fraction of the overall picture, but the most important statistic of all at the moment is the 1 win in 9 games. This is the reality of our situation and no amount of other statistics can hide this. This is truly atrocious and has to placed squarely at the feet of HR, he is in charge and he is ultimately responsible.

Just one of many many failures in my book on behalf of Harry that can't be measured in statistics, but has had a very big impact on our season. As Harry stated he tried to sign Tevez from Man City (impossible, £200k a week and a £40 million price tag, it was a desperate bid from harry to probably show desire to the fans (Tevez also had PL experience and falling into HR's comfort zone)) in probably the most defining January transfer window about our ambitions as a club, but rather than going for players that were achievable and do-able with the promise of CL football and actually brining them in, he instead blew all that precious time on going for an impossible player, loaning off all our back up in key areas and ending up with Saha (which I am still angry about and let my views be known at the time (@SS57 - no, I am not glad we got Saha now, are you?) and Nelson in return. This act was suicidal for a club sitting in 3rd place chasing for a champions league place and can't measured in statistics. Not to mention blowing the whole of the previous transfer window to only end up with Ade and Parker on the last day, thus missing the whole of pre-season as well as the first two games. This alone is not the type of manage I want at the club, let alone the failures in tactics when the pressure is on etc etc.

Harry has to go end of, nothing can save him now at this club and I hope he gets the England job too, as England, the FA and Harry are all suited together.