New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Dinghy]

Could be a bargaining chip used to get a better deal from Levy when the time comes. (Similar to our bid for the Olympic Stadium?)

 

[George94]

Am I missing something here - could there not be two NFL franchises in London? Being the first NFL franchise in London only lasts so long - a second franchise was always going to happen at some point...

 

[Lilbaz]

Am I missing something here - could there not be two NFL franchises in London? Being the first NFL franchise in London only lasts so long - a second franchise was always going to happen at some point...

Even getting one over here is going to be a massive headache. The players and coaches wont want to play here. Taxes, travel, time difference etc... i really can't see two. Especially with the likes of la, toronto and mexico city (even mention of tokyo) all wanting a franchise.

 

[werty]

Am I missing something here - could there not be two NFL franchises in London? Being the first NFL franchise in London only lasts so long - a second franchise was always going to happen at some point...

It's extremely unlikely there will be a second team.

 

[LSUY]

Even getting one over here is going to be a massive headache. The players and coaches wont want to play here. Taxes, travel, time difference etc... i really can't see two. Especially with the likes of la, toronto and mexico city (even mention of tokyo) all wanting a franchise.

LA already has two franchises while neither Toronto nor Mexico City are big markets in comparison to London. A UK franchise is way more attractive for the NFL as it would be easier for European fans to access plus the time difference gives the NFL a fourth nationally televised game a week so TV companies would have to stump up more cash for the rights but also allows the NFL to market live broadcasts to the Middle and Far East.

Players will come to a London franchise because of the paycheck, the same reason why Oscar decided to play in China.

As for taxes, given how much money the NFL generates the Government and Mayor of London will come up with a tax deal.

Travel is that much of a problem either. A flight from NY to LA is only an hour quicker than a flight from NY to London. The 19 franchises that are east of the Mississippi River are closer to London than Hawaii. Scheduling wouldn't be too difficult either. Toronto has a rugby league team in the British league system so they play all their away games over the first half of the season and then all their home games. With the NFL's bye week any team travelling to London would use their bye for the following week while a London franchise would probably use their bye for when they travel to the US.

 

[George94]

Even getting one over here is going to be a massive headache. The players and coaches wont want to play here. Taxes, travel, time difference etc... i really can't see two. Especially with the likes of la, toronto and mexico city (even mention of tokyo) all wanting a franchise.

It's extremely unlikely there will be a second team.

Obviously, I am aware that I'm coming from quite an ignorant point of view where my knowledge of NFL starts and finishes with the Super Bowl each year.

But I always thought once the first franchise started up in London, a second would follow.

 

[Lilbaz]

LA already has two franchises while neither Toronto nor Mexico City are big markets in comparison to London. A UK franchise is way more attractive for the NFL as it would be easier for European fans to access plus the time difference gives the NFL a fourth nationally televised game a week so TV companies would have to stump up more cash for the rights but also allows the NFL to market live broadcasts to the Middle and Far East.

Players will come to a London franchise because of the paycheck, the same reason why Oscar decided to play in China.

As for taxes, given how much money the NFL generates the Government and Mayor of London will come up with a tax deal.

Travel is that much of a problem either. A flight from NY to LA is only an hour quicker than a flight from NY to London. The 19 franchises that are east of the Mississippi River are closer to London than Hawaii.

So you think london will get two franchises?

 

[werty]

Obviously, I am aware that I'm coming from quite an ignorant point of view where my knowledge of NFL starts and finishes with the Super Bowl each year.

But I always thought once the first franchise started up in London, a second would follow.

I mean, if the Jags move to London and are a tremendous success, and the two games we get do great too, then there's a possibility. Then you'd have to convince another team to move, or add probably another four teams to make the numbers make sense, and there'll be other big cities who might want a team that might be more attractive to them and make them better offers.

 

[LSUY]

So you think london will get two franchises?

I would guess two franchises would be a long way off as the NFL tends to be cautious in regards to expansion. It took LA 20 years to get a franchise. The international series started with just one game in London and they've gradually increased the number of games to eight - which is the number of home games a franchise plays in a regular season. I can't see the NFL dropping this strategy so they'll probably inch towards a single London franchise, sit back for a few years to evaluate and then decide.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Wembley is a terrible stadium in general but it seems especially for NFL. The NFL games there have been poor for the most. players struggling at times to keep there feet, either low scoring or very one sided games with the front few rows of seats blocked out. Our stadium will look and feel more like an NFL stadium imo anyway.

 

[Lilbaz]

Wembley is a terrible stadium in general but it seems especially for NFL. The NFL games there have been poor for the most. players struggling at times to keep there feet, either low scoring or very one sided games with the front few rows of seats blocked out. Our stadium will look and feel more like an NFL stadium imo anyway.

Which isn't really the point. If khan moves the jaguars into wembley we could have the greatest nfl pitch in the universe and it's doubtful another franchise would move to london. Possible who knows?

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Which isn't really the point. If khan moves the jaguars into wembley we could have the greatest nfl pitch in the universe and it's doubtful another franchise would move to london. Possible who knows?

It would be more down to the NFL commission I would of thought. if the games at Wembley continue to be a poor spectle and the ones at NWHL produce good games the NFL may only agree to a London franchise at a particular ground.

 

[Lilbaz]

It would be more down to the NFL commission I would of thought. if the games at Wembley continue to be a poor spectle and the ones at NWHL produce good games the NFL may only agree to a London franchise at a particular ground.

Really don't know too much about the nfl. But surely the jaguars would have final say on what ground they play?

 

[spids]

Would be a massive mistake to sell the national stadium, and home of association football, to another country for them to use it for a different sport altogether. The English football team would be guests in their own national stadium. Massively wrong IMO!

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Really don't know too much about the nfl. But surely the jaguars would have final say on what ground they play?

I don’t know if they would have final say. the NFL may only agree to a franchise with certain conditions met. Also we don’t know if it will be an existing franchise or a brand new one. If it’s Jacksonville they might still think it’s worthwhile come Ig over here even if there made to play at our stadium.

All still hypothetical though as I still think the odds on having a franchise in London are very small. If you watch those behind the scenes NFL docs you can see it’s a reel drag for them to come over here and if there’s enough teams dead set against it, it would be hard for them to go against that.

 

[coys200]

Since its inception I've wondered why the stadium wasn't designed with the roof of some sort, most likely a retractable one. Does anyone know if there's a reason for this?

If not, I think it's an oversight as the venue would be able to host concerts and other sporting events, such as boxing etc all year round. With our dodgy English weather it really limits the use of the stadium for non sporting events to just a few summer months.

I wouldn’t say few months. Joshua fight was early this month. I’d definitely say outdoor is usable March to October.

 

[coys200]

Don’t see why everyone is obsessed with having a franchise. That would only be 8 guaranteed games. If the franchise did go to Wembley, we’d likely get the other games which could be 4. It would probably actually give us bigger exposure as we’d have a variety of teams. I honestly don’t see any of today’s news a negative. Remember 32 other teams will have to agree for it to happen. If they agree it means they like the idea and likely another team would follow. It could just be the start of massive NFL explosion in Europe and we’d be in prime position. Amazes me people always have to look for the negative on this forum.

 

[spids]

I wouldn’t say few months. Joshua fight was early this month. I’d definitely say outdoor is usable March to October.

Wasn’t that in Cardiff where there is a r tractable roof?

 

[LSUY]

I don’t know if they would have final say. the NFL may only agree to a franchise with certain conditions met. Also we don’t know if it will be an existing franchise or a brand new one. If it’s Jacksonville they might still think it’s worthwhile come Ig over here even if there made to play at our stadium.

All still hypothetical though as I still think the odds on having a franchise in London are very small. If you watch those behind the scenes NFL docs you can see it’s a reel drag for them to come over here and if there’s enough teams dead set against it, it would be hard for them to go against that.

Which is why the NFL has been very cautious in its approach. The University of Hawaii plays in blocks of two to three games, home and away. The NFL's testing this concept with back-to-back games in London next season. Barring an economic meltdown in the UK a London franchise is inevitable simply because the NFL and the owners will make a ton of money from it.

 

[LSUY]

Don’t see why everyone is obsessed with having a franchise. That would only be 8 guaranteed games. If the franchise did go to Wembley, we’d likely get the other games which could be 4. It would probably actually give us bigger exposure as we’d have a variety of teams. I honestly don’t see any of today’s news a negative. Remember 32 other teams will have to agree for it to happen. If they agree it means they like the idea and likely another team would follow. It could just be the start of massive NFL explosion in Europe and we’d be in prime position. Amazes me people always have to look for the negative on this forum.

London isn't getting two franchises anytime soon. As it stands the owners want a team to relocate to London and not expand the league beyond its current 32 team model. Apart from the Jags no other team is looking to relocate.