New Stadium Details And Discussions

[werty]

think they will play with the same pitch size as Wembley which means 2m longer than what they intended

Wouldn't it need to be 2m longer and 4 m wider? It was originally planned to be 105x68 (Wembley is 105x69). It would be the biggest pitch in the league and beyond the PL pitch regulations.

 

[Lighty64]

Wouldn't it need to be 2m longer and 4 m wider? It was originally planned to be 105x68 (Wembley is 105x69). It would be the biggest pitch in the league and beyond the PL pitch regulations.

my bad, thought Wembley was 107x68

god knows how they intend to make it closer

 

[beats1]

As long as the fans are a bit above the pitch they could get the uefa sized billboards in. Then you have another 4m for the flaps and pitch edging. Can't see why it can't be done. Although there are probably good reasons it isn't.

I dunno.

The first row will be below the pitch but the boards would be lower than the first row

Intrigued about the distance being reduced to 5m:

on 5m distance on all 4 stands, can it be changed this late?: Yes, I know. This point was emphasised as it was an example of small unrealised detail that will set stadium apart from all others.

A common misconception is that a bigger stadium automaticAlly equaled a bigger distance from pitch but they wanted to break that trend and do the opposite. Never been done before.

If true its a good move, chelsea ignored the 8m guideline and I'm pretty sure that in our original plan, the pitch is 8m away from the stands in line with fifa guidelines. Of course this is a guideline and not a rule but almost everyone use to follow this guideline as they wanted to be a uefa 4 star stadium

 

[C0YS]

Am I the only one worried that the corprateness is gonna hurt the atmosphere. I don't want away fans to be comfortable I want them to be intimidated.

 

[parj]

some bits from n17 bishop on ssc ,taken from multiple posts so a bit messy:

Back at spurs today after a year out for back to work interview.
Loads of interesting facts coming out of talks.

Some non sensitive stuff I don’t think has been mention:

Actually officially reducing closest fan distance to pitch going from approx 7m to 5m

Light will be reflected/projected from blow into sky so stadium will be seen from all four corners of London.

Away end just as furnished as all Home GA areas.

All GA areas furnished to a standard better than any Corp area at Wembley.

More to follow....

[more follows here]
With regards to pitch distance. Basically the official distance was 7 meters but now will be 5. No specifics as such apart from it was clubs official fan distance.

on 5m distance on all 4 stands, can it be changed this late?: Yes, I know. This point was emphasised as it was an example of small unrealised detail that will set stadium apart from all others.

A common misconception is that a bigger stadium automaticAlly equaled a bigger distance from pitch but they wanted to break that trend and do the opposite. Never been done before.

I personally think furnishing the ga to above Wembley Corp standards and even replicating that in the away end is genius.

They basically want even visiting supporters to be envious directly.

Two more tit bits.

- west stand reception will have a LED wall display the entire length of the atrium. It won’t b a white wall as depicted in render. This is a late design addition apparently.

Away GA areas will/can be mood lighted using programmable led lights to the visiting teams colours.

I don’t know details but I imagine a couple of led’s pointing up on each column will do the trick. Not my expertise.

There are a good few renders not made public that I saw especially of sky walk. Unfortunately I was not in a position to take a cheeky snap.

Also confirmed 360o walking access to all ga areas regardless of where your sitting. Only exception is if away visitor occupy all three tiers of Northeast corner which I believe is only certain cup games.

Another fact that I think we have already picked up on on here is that most stand rakes are at the maximum legal limit. Exception being the South.


this was today. I was not shown around the stadium so i suspect your friend was there in some other capacity. Probably in a higher capacity.

What was clear though is that they have started from scratch regarding customer experience. The whole mentality has/will be changed.

There will be NO venue (and i used the word venue as opposed to football stadium) in Europe that will better NWHL for overall experience. Very few to compete in the world. Even non sports venues!

As mentioned earlier, the GA area furnishing and offerings pledge/quote was telling!
the point is our GA will match/beat most other stadiums premium areas and in their words "including club Wembley". I've never been club Wembley so cant comment but i'm assuming they meant its current state.

Suffice to say, you can easily begin to see how the cost of this build has rocketed outside the obvious stuff.

I worked for the lighting company that won NWHL. It's an amazing stadium and there are still changes being made to make it even better. This will be a special stadium

 

[Roynie]

my bad, thought Wembley was 107x68

god knows how they intend to make it closer

Well, it depends on when they realised that they could make it closer. It may be that they realised early on but kept it quiet!

EDIT and built the stadium accordingly.

 

[beats1]

Am I the only one worried that the corprateness is gonna hurt the atmosphere. I don't want away fans to be comfortable I want them to be intimidated.

TBH, you keep hearing people say how our stadium will be one of the best fan experiences in football

BUT thats because its designed like or taken a lot of cues from american stadiums which frankly are ridiculous. Atlanta were looking to add Top Golf for VIP boxes and a barbershop for their basketball stadium. American stadiums are all about getting the money from hospitality

However there is a couple of things they do for the atmosphere.

They have fan zones or even standing areas which tend to be cheap, these tend to be at the ends. However something scary in our stadium is that in the south stand is that there will be an area that will be very expensive.

They also have this culture of having normal game tickets available for cheap on places like stub hub. However the demand for us is too high to do that as their games are all televised

As for the acoustics in the new stadium, no one will truly know until the stadium is opened. I built a couple of music studios and I will tell you that simulations and real life test dont always deliver the same results. Lets not forget Wembley was a stadium that was designed with acoustic's in mind, they boasted how they had found a way of delivering the wembley roar whilst making it a great venue for live music getting rid of the famous wembley delay.

 

[Derryank]

TBH, you keep hearing people say how our stadium will be one of the best fan experiences in football

BUT thats because its designed like or taken a lot of cues from american stadiums which frankly are ridiculous. Atlanta were looking to add Top Golf for VIP boxes and a barbershop for their basketball stadium. American stadiums are all about getting the money from hospitality

However there is a couple of things they do for the atmosphere.

They have fan zones or even standing areas which tend to be cheap, these tend to be at the ends. However something scary in our stadium is that in the south stand is that there will be an area that will be very expensive.

They also have this culture of having normal game tickets available for cheap on places like stub hub. However the demand for us is too high to do that as their games are all televised

As for the acoustics in the new stadium, no one will truly know until the stadium is opened. I built a couple of music studios and I will tell you that simulations and real life test dont always deliver the same results. Lets not forget Wembley was a stadium that was designed with acoustic's in mind, they boasted how they had found a way of delivering the wembley roar whilst making it a great venue for live music getting rid of the famous wembley delay.

You forgot to mention that Atlanta has made ALL concessions $5.

Genius if you ask me

 

[Bobbins]

I'm disgustingly excited.

I actually love the idea of putting on great facilities and tailored lighting etc for away fans - frankly it will just make them ridiculously jealous of just how brilliant our stadium is compared to any of theirs plus the sheer class of actually catering for other fans and not pettily deliberately giving them a shit experience like they do at the Emirates.

Love it.

 

[werty]

You forgot to mention that Atlanta has made ALL concessions $5.

Genius if you ask me

Another team have copied them, haven't they?

Of course, it's a lot easier to do when you're in a revenue sharing sport. Great gesture nontheless.

 

[gilzeantheking]

Chris Cowlin's latest

 

[spud]

I'm confused about something.

The pitch moves in and out of the stadium on rails. I don't understand how the 'turf field' that sits above the rails will be unscathed when the pitch is moved. With the weight of the pitch you would think that the 'turf' would be destroyed every time the pitch moves oevr it. Are they using electro-magnetism or some other technology to prevent this?

 

[Lighty64]

Chris Cowlin's latest

so looks like there might not be 1 of these next Saturday as Chris might be elsewhere in the country, hope no injuries so it doesn't delay his return

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I'm confused about something.

The pitch moves in and out of the stadium on rails. I don't understand how the 'turf field' that sits above the rails will be unscathed when the pitch is moved. With the weight of the pitch you would think that the 'turf' would be destroyed every time the pitch moves oevr it. Are they using electro-magnetism or some other technology to prevent this?

I believe it's the other way around - the artificial pitch is on the bottom, the grass pitch will roll out over it.

I also wonder if some people are getting distance to pitch and distance to touchline muddled? The size of the playing surface -v- the size of the grass it's painted on

 

[spud]

I believe it's the other way around - the artificial pitch is on the bottom, the grass pitch will roll out over it.

That is exactly my point. The 'turf' is above the rails - between the rails and the pitch trays - and will therefore be destroyed by the weight of the pitch when it is rolled in and out.

 

[SandroClegane]

That is exactly my point. The 'turf' is above the rails - between the rails and the pitch trays - and will therefore be destroyed by the weight of the pitch when it is rolled in and out.

obviously the turf will be removed before they roll out the pitch

 

[popstar7]

There's animated videos on YouTube which demonstrate how it works.

 

[Krafty]

Really pleased with this news. Having been to club Wembley numerous times, it is the least we should be aiming for. Facilities aren’t bad but still feels like a Swiss airport departure lounge, think we will do such a better job.

Seems like the club have actually put thought in it and appreciated quality and service, as well as cost and return

 

[thinktank]

some bits from n17 bishop on ssc ,taken from multiple posts so a bit messy:

Back at spurs today after a year out for back to work interview.
Loads of interesting facts coming out of talks.

Some non sensitive stuff I don’t think has been mention:

Actually officially reducing closest fan distance to pitch going from approx 7m to 5m

Light will be reflected/projected from blow into sky so stadium will be seen from all four corners of London.

Away end just as furnished as all Home GA areas.

All GA areas furnished to a standard better than any Corp area at Wembley.

More to follow....

[more follows here]
With regards to pitch distance. Basically the official distance was 7 meters but now will be 5. No specifics as such apart from it was clubs official fan distance.

on 5m distance on all 4 stands, can it be changed this late?: Yes, I know. This point was emphasised as it was an example of small unrealised detail that will set stadium apart from all others.

A common misconception is that a bigger stadium automaticAlly equaled a bigger distance from pitch but they wanted to break that trend and do the opposite. Never been done before.

I personally think furnishing the ga to above Wembley Corp standards and even replicating that in the away end is genius.

They basically want even visiting supporters to be envious directly.

Two more tit bits.

- west stand reception will have a LED wall display the entire length of the atrium. It won’t b a white wall as depicted in render. This is a late design addition apparently.

Away GA areas will/can be mood lighted using programmable led lights to the visiting teams colours.

I don’t know details but I imagine a couple of led’s pointing up on each column will do the trick. Not my expertise.

There are a good few renders not made public that I saw especially of sky walk. Unfortunately I was not in a position to take a cheeky snap.

Also confirmed 360o walking access to all ga areas regardless of where your sitting. Only exception is if away visitor occupy all three tiers of Northeast corner which I believe is only certain cup games.

Another fact that I think we have already picked up on on here is that most stand rakes are at the maximum legal limit. Exception being the South.


this was today. I was not shown around the stadium so i suspect your friend was there in some other capacity. Probably in a higher capacity.

What was clear though is that they have started from scratch regarding customer experience. The whole mentality has/will be changed.

There will be NO venue (and i used the word venue as opposed to football stadium) in Europe that will better NWHL for overall experience. Very few to compete in the world. Even non sports venues!

As mentioned earlier, the GA area furnishing and offerings pledge/quote was telling!
the point is our GA will match/beat most other stadiums premium areas and in their words "including club Wembley". I've never been club Wembley so cant comment but i'm assuming they meant its current state.

Suffice to say, you can easily begin to see how the cost of this build has rocketed outside the obvious stuff.

I think I've broken my cock.

 

[spud]

obviously the turf will be removed before they roll out the pitch

Is that what will actually happen or is it just your assumption?