New Stadium Details And Discussions

[dimiSpur]

The club did. They justified their HORRENDOUS price increases with "the amazing facilities at the New Stadium".

Which you have to pay to use once you pay the excessive entrance fee in the first place. So that makes no sense.

In any case, this is not surprising. We tend to be farcical even when we're doing something so amazing like moving into a new stadium. We just seem to always be able to embarass ourselves. We never do anything simply.

 

[Navin R Johnson]

Treating the fanbase like cash cows who'll never turn their backs on the club is the biggest mistake ENIC have made with us by far.

As much as I'd like to agree with you I can't. Our loyalty to the team is cynically milked by the company at every opportunity. For every fan who turns their back on the team there's another one to take their place. It's not a new thing either.

 

[Saoirse]

Even better! So we haven't actually tied down Wembley it seems and are going cap-in-hand just to move the League and CL in there. And are having to chuck away our chances at a cup. With a failure to win anything this season meaning a first trophyless decade since the war.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

I hope the NFL are ok with that statement. I do feel for them.

I couldn't give a fuck about the NFL. It's a football stadium built for Spurs, not a place for NFL dreams to come true

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Well, you're absolutely guessing as to the quantum. Mace is not a contractor. They're construction managers. But I agree that they will be the target for the additional costs arising from this. The problem is that damages for late completion are rarely, almost never assessed and billed as per the contract. It ends up being a battle between solicitors or, more often, a commercial settlement to make the dispute go away.

I know but damages are still put int the package contractors contracts as well as Mace's. Plus they have all been given acceleration deals with damage clauses. Agree very messy and legals will be rubbing their hands. I just cannot believe that Danny boy has not tied them up in knots. Time will tell. Let's hope that the legal costs do not prevent us from buying players.

 

[L-man]

I'm talking about when we wanted to use Milton Keynes and Wembley in the same season

I don't remember that ever being an option

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I was all geared up to write a reprise of my rant from a year or two ago about how the construction industry has a culture of relentlessly misrepresenting progress to the client, right up to a few weeks from scheduled completion. And how this was because the on-site project manager is being bullied into guaranteeing targets that cannot be guaranteed, so they make bullshit promises and those promises go up the line of management, leading to a culture of bullshit promises.

But then I re-read the wording and tone of the club announcement. I don't think what's happening here is a general lateness of progress on site. The announcement and its suddenness, on the heels of taking up the Wembley option, reads as if something very specific has been encountered on site.

It reads as if a key bit of building or equipment that is on the critical path for obtaining the approvals and sign-offs has been found to be un-approvable and that it has to be rebuilt or reinstalled before the stadium can be licensed for use. That this has been discovered within the last day or two. And that summit meetings failed to find a way to rectify the problem in a time-scale that permits us to open on 15 Sept.

There's a difference between "this whole job is running late", which is what whingers have been saying here for months, and "oh fuck, the fire alarm [or whatever] failed the test and we have to reinstall everything". It reads like the latter to me. I'm guessing. But not from a position of ignorance.

 

[arunspurs]

Real problem is not delay but the lack of communication. Having to wait till a news leak is out is extremely bad management. I am usually side with Levy, but this fuck up in communication is unforgivable. Only way to correct it is compensate affected fans by full refund and start giving proper stadium updates frequently

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

I honestly think the NFL won't really give a flying one. Doesn't really matter what stadium the game is in. We courted them not the other way around.

 

[riggi]

I couldn't give a fuck about the NFL. It's a football stadium built for Spurs, not a place for NFL dreams to come true

??????

 

[arunspurs]

I honestly think the NFL won't really give a flying one. Doesn't really matter what stadium the game is in. We courted them not the other way around.

From their perspective, they have invested 10m already. I am sure they do care.

 

[Giovanni]

Even better! So we haven't actually tied down Wembley it seems and are going cap-in-hand just to move the League and CL in there. And are having to chuck away our chances at a cup. With a failure to win anything this season meaning a first trophyless decade since the war.

The international champions cup says hello.....

 

[Saoirse]

I look forward to my money back.

Me too. I paid damn close to £1,000 as did thousands of others to be in the South Stand with an atmosphere in Tottenham. Not 27 miles from the pitch at a soulless bowl on the opposite side of London.

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

I was all geared up to write a reprise of my rant from a year or two ago about how the construction industry has a culture of relentlessly misrepresenting progress to the client, right up to a few weeks from scheduled completion. And how this was because the on-site project manager is being bullied into guaranteeing targets that cannot be guaranteed, so they make bullshit promises and those promises go up the line of management, leading to a culture of bullshit promises.

Bu then I re-read the wording and tone of the club announcement. I don't think what's happening here is a general lateness of progress on site. The announcement and its suddenness, on the heels of taking up the Wembley option, reads as if something very specific has been encountered on site.

It reads as if a key bit of building or equipment that is on the critical path for obtaining the approvals and sign-offs has been found to be un-approvable and that it has to be rebuilt or reinstalled before the stadium can be licensed for use. That this has been discovered within the last day or two. And that summit meetings failed to find a way to rectify the problem in a time-scale that permits us to open on 15 Sept.

There's a difference between "this whole job is running late", which is what whingers have been saying here for months, and "oh fuck, the fire alarm [or whatever] failed the test and we have to reinstall everything". It reads like the latter to me. I'm guessing. But not from a position of ignorance.

This does make sense. For the sake of my sanity I'm hoping Levy isn't enough of a joker to flog the gold package knowing this was coming.

 

[riggi]

Me too. I paid damn close to £1,000 as did thousands of others to be in the South Stand with an atmosphere in Tottenham. Not 27 miles from the pitch at a soulless bowl on the opposite side of London.

Yup about a grand for me next to the away fans. Who the fuck can I chuck my piss at Wembley?!!!!

 

[chelmyid]

This doesn't quite add up. You're saying the Club has known for a while about this yet went ahead and planned various matches at the new stadium, including an NFL match? And without any financial contingency plans?

In any case, its no wonder we didn't sign any players. We're obviously drowning in this project.

I’m saying the club has been advised of the completion programme and what the final date has looked like. Whether this advise was taken on board or just met with a persistent block of - just keep going we will get there, is a different story.....

 

[Saoirse]

Yup about a grand for me next to the away fans. Who the fuck can I chuck my piss at Wembley?!!!!

The away fans who'll be buying tickets right next to you and wearing colours but can't be kicked out because "they're not hurting anyone", of course.

 

[Martin91]

Think they don't want to commit to either stadium at the moment just in case.

There is an NFL game at Wembley that weekend think that’s why it’s down as a TBC

 

[Blackrat1299]

Sorry if this has already been posted...........Ongoing tests in the build-up to their return to White Hart Lane have discovered issues with “critical safety systems,” the club admitted yesterday, From the Express. Anybody any idea what they are talking about?

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

From their perspective, they have invested 10m already. I am sure they do care.

I'm sure they'll get 5% back as credit to use at the Spurs shop.