New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Blackrat1299]

HY again on coys

I've been on four of the five floors and walked around 3/4 of the stadium and it's all done. Only South Stand not yet completed interior.

This is where DL and DC have missed a trick. What a wonderful opportunity for a PR Coup. If what HY says is true, then a series of photos and a statement would shut a lot of those dissenters up.

 

[spursfan77]

This is where DL and DC have missed a trick. What a wonderful opportunity for a PR Coup. If what HY says is true, then a series of photos and a statement would shut a lot of those dissenters up.

I agree but maybe they don’t want to spoil the surprise. It’s not the first time hertyid has said this either. He said similar after that first open event that a few on here went to.

 

[coys200]

HY again on coys

I've been on four of the five floors and walked around 3/4 of the stadium and it's all done. Only South Stand not yet completed interior.

Sorry but if this is true then why are 75% of the stadium lights on at night. What they doing having an all nighter in the boxes.

 

[spursfan77]

Sorry but if this is true then why are 75% of the stadium lights on at night. What they doing having an all nighter in the boxes.

Redoing the cabels I guess

 

[davidmatzdorf]

HY again on coys

I've been on four of the five floors and walked around 3/4 of the stadium and it's all done. Only South Stand not yet completed interior.

In the interest of balance: I know Hertford Yid is ITK and all that, but I don't reckon he knows much more about construction than the afore-mentioned grumpy operative who has a bone to pick with management.

Reading all the conflicting comments, my sense is that the accurate version is: it's a long way from being "finished", as there are multiple operations, primarily exterior and cosmetic in nature, that are uncompleted, but the only thing that's preventing it from being "ready for a football match" is the problems with the fire alarm system.

I just wonder here whether HY is exaggerating in the opposite direction because he's so fed up with being told the sky is falling and the whole build is months behind, which it plainly isn't.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Sorry but if this is true then why are 75% of the stadium lights on at night. What they doing having an all nighter in the boxes.

Sorting out the fire alarm system, I would imagine.

 

[slartibartfast]

No it wouldn’t require a complete rewire but it still takes time to test,identify, and replace. If they are talking about wiring problems I’d imagine there are quite a few damages to cables.
A good electrician would obviously be able to wire fp200 cables through conduit but it is very tight to get 2 2.5mm fps down a 25mm conduit with bend boxes on it and not all electricians on the job are the best tbh.
It’s a design fault imo as fire alarm cables are designed to be run on tray not through conduit

Agree, I also think its probably a design problem. Although additional detectors or additions again will not require a complete rewire. Do you even know the cable is in conduit? As you said it doesn't need to be. Be very interested to know what the actual issue is. Whatever it is I cannot concieve of a situation where a complete rewire from scratch would be required unless they used the wrong cable ie 2 core not 3 core or whatever. And didnt someone say it was tested months ago?
Breaking the system down into segments to test and find faults is nowhere near as time consuming as a complete rewire. There will be way more not faulty areas than faulty unless as I said Mickey Mouse put it in.
Anyone heard what the actual issue is?
Squirrel munch through cable lol?
Really love to know whats happened.

 

[slartibartfast]

I guess it’s also possible that the wiring diagrams/design of the system could be the problem and not the actual cabling ?

I think thats the issue.
Again, that would not require a complete rewire. Only additions and alterations.
Think its just sensationalism in the media. Sounds great doesnt it.
Yes work obviously need doing due to some kind of fault. But a new fire alarm system being installed from scratch? I think not.

 

[Hoopspur]

Sorry but if this is true then why are 75% of the stadium lights on at night. What they doing having an all nighter in the boxes.

They’d normally have 100% on but the cabling is knackered?

 

[worcestersauce]

Sorry but if this is true then why are 75% of the stadium lights on at night. What they doing having an all nighter in the boxes.

Perhaps because the people who are working on the bits that aren't complete sometimes have to walk through the bits that are complete and I reckon that might just be a little bit dodgy in the dark, ironically it could therefore be for safety reasons.

 

[Roynie]

This is where DL and DC have missed a trick. What a wonderful opportunity for a PR Coup. If what HY says is true, then a series of photos and a statement would shut a lot of those dissenters up.

Maybe. But possibly there is a better trick up their collective sleeves. By not disputing all the false or misleading articles and speculation, they would have a bigger impact when, surprise surprise, at the first game that is played the nay-sayers are proved wrong in terms of how much is actually completed.

 

[dondo]

Agree, I also think its probably a design problem. Although additional detectors or additions again will not require a complete rewire. Do you even know the cable is in conduit? As you said it doesn't need to be. Be very interested to know what the actual issue is. Whatever it is I cannot concieve of a situation where a complete rewire from scratch would be required unless they used the wrong cable ie 2 core not 3 core or whatever. And didnt someone say it was tested months ago?
Breaking the system down into segments to test and find faults is nowhere near as time consuming as a complete rewire. There will be way more not faulty areas than faulty unless as I said Mickey Mouse put it in.
Anyone heard what the actual issue is?
Squirrel munch through cable lol?
Really love to know whats happened.

I know that parts of the installation are done in conduit because I done a lot of it ?.
I did very little wiring of fire alarm cables before anyone starts sharpening their pitchforks

 

[dondo]

I think thats the issue.
Again, that would not require a complete rewire. Only additions and alterations.
Think its just sensationalism in the media. Sounds great doesnt it.
Yes work obviously need doing due to some kind of fault. But a new fire alarm system being installed from scratch? I think not.

It’s not one big fire alarm circuit doing the whole stadium. There are dozens of panels with 100s of circuits wired on the whole job.
I’m guessing the installation has been tested and they have found a lot of faults. Only the circuits with faults on will need working on.
It’s not a particularly difficult job but it can be time consuming

 

[chrissivad]

I know that parts of the installation are done in conduit because I done a lot of it ?.
I did very little wiring of fire alarm cables before anyone starts sharpening their pitchforks

So you just left the rest unfinished

 

[slartibartfast]

It’s not one big fire alarm circuit doing the whole stadium. There are dozens of panels with 100s of circuits wired on the whole job.
I’m guessing the installation has been tested and they have found a lot of faults. Only the circuits with faults on will need working on.
It’s not a particularly difficult job but it can be time consuming

I never said it was one big fire alarm circuit.
You seem to be saying the same as me in a different way but trying to disagree lol.
My op was I cannot see this needing a complete rewire, I call BS.
You then replied with 'Thats just not true.'
Now you're saying the same thing.
For the sake of arguement it wouldn't matter if it was 1 big circuit or 110 sub circuits, there still isnt a situation where any system this size would require a complete rewire unless, as I said, incorrect cable was installed.
I'm not telling you how to suck eggs mate, this is for those who arent electrically biased to understand.

 

[slartibartfast]

I know that parts of the installation are done in conduit because I done a lot of it ?.
I did very little wiring of fire alarm cables before anyone starts sharpening their pitchforks

So its your fault lol.
Cool. Must be awesome to be part of it. Jealous now

 

[Lilbaz]

The only thing that is certain is that i'm idk on this.

 

[dondo]

I never said it was one big fire alarm circuit.
You seem to be saying the same as me in a different way but trying to disagree lol.
My op was I cannot see this needing a complete rewire, I call BS.
You then replied with 'Thats just not true.'
Now you're saying the same thing.
For the sake of arguement it wouldn't matter if it was 1 big circuit or 110 sub circuits, there still isnt a situation where any system this size would require a complete rewire unless, as I said, incorrect cable was installed.
I'm not telling you how to suck eggs mate, this is for those who arent electrically biased to understand.

I do agree with you in general but the way you have worded it I wasn’t sure you knew how these sort of systems work??


The bit I said was not true was regarding your point about cabling faults and you not taking damages to cables as an option as it is the most likely reason for there being wiring faults

 

[dondo]

So its your fault lol.
Cool. Must be awesome to be part of it. Jealous now

Not part of it anymore left a few weeks back.
Was great to see and play a very small part in the stadium but it’s not the nicest atmosphere to work in and glad I’m not still there to be honest

 

[longtimespur]

Not part of it anymore left a few weeks back.
Was great to see and play a very small part in the stadium but it’s not the nicest atmosphere to work in and glad I’m not still there to be honest

Let's hope (or those attending make sure) it isn't going to be like this on match days