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coys200

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Out of interest club shops:

Arsenal 12k sq ft

Chelsea 12k

United 17 k

Liverpool 20k

Spurs 23k sq ft

And no we don’t get a trophy for that.
 
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yankspurs

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I thought it was just America that was so far behind the cashless payment times? I see we’re complaining about cashless in here? Either swipe/insert the chip credit card or connect your credit card to apple pay and use the fingerprint/facial id. The card issuer doesnt have your fingerprint or facial id. Apple does.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Out of interest club shops:

Arsenal 12k sq ft

Chelsea 12k

United 17 k

Liverpool 20k

Spurs 23k sq ft

And no we don’t get a trophy for that.

Big-est club shop...
Big-est club shop...
Big-gest club shop in the Prem...
Biggest club shop in the Prem!!
 

Hoopspur

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Get a whole lot more agitated when the entrance to the stadium is based upon retina registration or you need a micro chip implanted.
 

Dougal

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I remember my first trip to the club shop in 86. Got a woolly hat, scarf, sweatbands, A4 binder, mug and a programme. Basically everything a kid needed in the 80s.
 

EmperorKabir

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I thought it was just America that was so far behind the cashless payment times? I see we’re complaining about cashless in here? Either swipe/insert the chip credit card or connect your credit card to apple pay and use the fingerprint/facial id. The card issuer doesnt have your fingerprint or facial id. Apple does.

I'm wary of going off topic, but just to clarify for everyone.

No bank nor company stores your biometric (i.e. fingerprint or face ID) data. The data is stored ONLY on the device itself.

Is there a possibility that companies are illegally / quietly storing this data elsewhere? Sure, but if we are going by what they say and by the book, they do NOT store our data. It's on device only.

Lastly, I'm 31, and I forgot what cash even is.

Card only and contactless is good on a personal level as I use a cashback card so I get money back on everything I buy. I don't really see the point of cash, it's detrimental for me to use it, and less safe if I were to get mugged, plus less chance of protection on purchases.

On a larger scale, cashless speeds up big queues and this has been very noticeable in Wembley at some of their card only food outlets inside the stadium. If anywhere needs cashless systems where people aren't fiddling about with change and counting out money and spending an extra 5 to 10 seconds getting cash out and putting it away, it's a big football stadium outlet.

It's happening everywhere, even car parks. Granted, different types of fraud are on the up, but at least mugging for cash will go down, (though phones are valuable these days).

Anyway. My membership pack has finally dispatched. Not long to go!
 

SpunkyBackpack

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And lets be honest, any government or organisation who wanted my personal details already have them and my fingerprints are being touted around the net every day. They know more about me than I do and have probably been watching me through my webcam for years, those poor poor bastards, the things they've seen.
 

WalkerboyUK

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Out of interest club shops:

Arsenal 12k sq ft

Chelsea 12k

United 17 k

Liverpool 20k

Spurs 23k sq ft

And no we don’t get a trophy for that.

It's about the content though.
The previous shop sold a lot of shite... this just gives them reason to sell even more of it.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I thought it was just America that was so far behind the cashless payment times? I see we’re complaining about cashless in here? Either swipe/insert the chip credit card or connect your credit card to apple pay and use the fingerprint/facial id. The card issuer doesnt have your fingerprint or facial id. Apple does.
Not really complaining just lamenting the passing of an age, my age, which I must remind people was the age that brought you little plastic cards instead of cheques.
When I first went to the Spurs I went in the boys entrance for a tanner (sixpence), can you spend two and a half pence cashlessly? If so I'll do it on my credit card.
 

Lilbaz

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But your phone can be used to make contactless payments, pay for fuel etc. So once the device is unlocked you use the relevant service to make a transaction. This is no different. Your print only unlocks the device locally, the device then communicates to the bank to proceed with payment. Your print isn't sent anywhere, it's only used to locally unlock your device.

Sorry if it seems that way but cashless is a big part of the new stadium. I would be very surprised if a new stadium wasn't cashless in this day and age.

If you are talking using your phone for transactions fine. I was talking about using your fingerprint without a phone or personal device or card.
 

chico

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I couldn't care if the club shop was as big as an Amazon warehouse or as big as a phonebox . Most punters shop online? All about WINNING trophies for me rather than size of retail space!
Overseas shirt sales sooo important. Liverpool have massive shirt sales in Asia particularly. "Fans" support winners, many of us will cheer on either Barca or Real, maybe Bayern , but very few will "support" Valencia, Real Betis or Schalke. Last 3 big well supported clubs with little success domestically in recent years.
Trophies matter, retail square footage doesn't.
 

coys200

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Well I’d rather have a big f*** off massive shop where I can walk around at my leisure in comfort and not be squashed like a sardine on match day. Simple as that.
 

Hoopspur

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I'm wary of going off topic, but just to clarify for everyone.

No bank nor company stores your biometric (i.e. fingerprint or face ID) data. The data is stored ONLY on the device itself.

Is there a possibility that companies are illegally / quietly storing this data elsewhere? Sure, but if we are going by what they say and by the book, they do NOT store our data. It's on device only.

Lastly, I'm 31, and I forgot what cash even is.

Card only and contactless is good on a personal level as I use a cashback card so I get money back on everything I buy. I don't really see the point of cash, it's detrimental for me to use it, and less safe if I were to get mugged, plus less chance of protection on purchases.

On a larger scale, cashless speeds up big queues and this has been very noticeable in Wembley at some of their card only food outlets inside the stadium. If anywhere needs cashless systems where people aren't fiddling about with change and counting out money and spending an extra 5 to 10 seconds getting cash out and putting it away, it's a big football stadium outlet.

It's happening everywhere, even car parks. Granted, different types of fraud are on the up, but at least mugging for cash will go down, (though phones are valuable these days).

Anyway. My membership pack has finally dispatched. Not long to go!
I too apologise in advance. I was kind of mainly joking when I suggested retina recognition.

In that instance are you the device yourself? How does something recognise it is you? There surely has to be something to match this information against. I understand this will be future development.

I am too very in favour of chip and pin (at the moment for larger amounts with the exception of things like apple pay) or contactless. I hardly ever carry cash myself.
 

mil1lion

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If you are talking using your phone for transactions fine. I was talking about using your fingerprint without a phone or personal device or card.
I'm not sure if they'll go that far but who knows. I think cards will slowly die out like cheques. The likes of Apple Pay and Paypal will be used to pay for anything from your phone. Alternatively you could use an accessory instead. If I could pay for travel, access the stadium and buy from the shops/bars using only my phone I'd be all for it. The fingerprint scanner adds that extra layer of security that would open the possibilites.
 

worcestersauce

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I'm not sure if they'll go that far but who knows. I think cards will slowly die out like cheques. The likes of Apple Pay and Paypal will be used to pay for anything from your phone. Alternatively you could use an accessory instead. If I could pay for travel, access the stadium and buy from the shops/bars using only my phone I'd be all for it. The fingerprint scanner adds that extra layer of security that would open the possibilites.
You'd be a little buggered if your battery died though wouldn't you?
 

mil1lion

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You'd be a little buggered if your battery died though wouldn't you?
No more so if you forget your wallet. I think you'd need a backup in accessory form like the contactless keyrings/wristbands etc. Or they set the phone to store a percentage of power aside to use for emergency calls and payments. I'm just the ideas man, I'll leave it to the nerds to make it happen.
 
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