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Reece

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May 27, 2005
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You can only take the piss out of the very loyal and true supporters for a certain amount of time before they realise they have finally had enough

As the average age of our core support is around 45-55 they need to be very careful

Loyal football supporters that spend a lot of money and travel home and away do not grow on trees anymore especially when you can watch virtually every game these days from the comfort of your own home with a nice cup of Coco

This whole saga has been embarrassing at best and will make thousands of supporters (in the next few years) reevaluate what they spend their time and money on, at worst

Entirely agree. It’s not realistic to expect such a large number of people to continue spending so much money on football imo. I committed the money this season after Wembley last but can’t see that anyone saving for a ridiculously priced house in London can reasonably justify spending probably £2k in total on Spurs per year.

The only reason is blind loyalty but when the club brings that blind loyalty into the foreground of the reasoning to purchase the season ticket, you’ll lose paying consumers.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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You all know I’m sworn BSODL but this particular situation is a slap in the face. I’ve been going with my dad my whole life and this year we deliberately reduced our seat quality for the new ground from above the players tunnel to in line with the goal line because it was just too expensive.

Now we’re being given £52 back per match and then being asked to pay up to £95 to have our equivalent seats to last season (rather than the same price to have equivalent to this season’s at the new ground). I get that a) I don’t have to pay it and b) that last season’s seat is always going to cost more each match than this season’s but a) going to spurs is as much about having a chat and interacting with the people around you who you’ve developed relationships with for several decades and b) if they are really going to only refund the 1/19 of this season’s ticket, they should be charging 1/19 of last season’s ticket. If I’m being charged a category A price (1/15th roughly) I should be refunded a category A price too (about £66 ) so that the difference isn’t so disproportionate.

It's working the opposite way for me. To get a comparable view to where we were in WHL (Block G), we had to pay considerably more (and also move up the opposite end of the Shelf, way too near where the visiting supporters are going to be). But the effect now, for every match that moves to Wembley, is that we are being refunded £20 more per ticket than it is costing us to reserve last year's Wembley seats.
 

dagraham

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Sep 20, 2005
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You can only take the piss out of the very loyal and true supporters for a certain amount of time before they realise they have finally had enough

As the average age of our core support is around 45-55 they need to be very careful

Loyal football supporters that spend a lot of money and travel home and away do not grow on trees anymore especially when you can watch virtually every game these days from the comfort of your own home with a nice cup of Coco

This whole saga has been embarrassing at best and will make thousands of supporters (in the next few years) reevaluate what they spend their time and money on, at worst

Agree, but unfortunately we’re no longer supporters, but mere customers.

Even more unfortunately, unlike any other customer in any business in the world if you don’t like the way you’re being treated you can’t just switch to another brand.

Sadly, it wouldn’t even surprise me if they marginally increased prices next season. Or if not then the season after.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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It's working the opposite way for me. To get a comparable view to where we were in WHL (Block G), we had to pay considerably more (and also move up the opposite end of the Shelf, way too near where the visiting supporters are going to be). But the effect now, for every match that moves to Wembley, is that we are being refunded £20 more per ticket than it is costing us to reserve last year's Wembley seats.
Having witnessed you approaching so many things on this site with an egalitarian bias for the past 15 years roughly, I know deep down you believe that nobody losing out is better than some losing out and some benefitting....
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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Instead of this constant moaning and complaining about something you know is not going to change just stop attending matches.
That would give me bit more chance to get season tickets for my grandchildren.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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Oct 17, 2006
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Back to stadium build issues. Just a question which probably has been asked answered before but I missed. It is with regard to further testing- the bounce of the ball! Has a test been done to see how this elevated pitch affects the bounce and movement of the ball? If not can you imagine after all the delays and disappointments, the stadium opens to a grand fanfare only to see the ball stick to the ground like a shot put or bounce up high like a beach ball?! :(
 
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coys200

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May 22, 2017
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Back to stadium build issues. Just a question which probably has been asked answered before but I missed. It is with regard to further testing- the bounce of the ball! Has a test been done to see how this elevated pitch affects the bounce and movement off the ball? If not can you imagine after all the delays and disappointments, the stadium opens to a grand fanfare only to see the ball stick to the ground like a shot put or bounce up high like a beach ball?! :(

Actually funny you should say that. Honestly been expecting to see someone bouncing a ball on pitch just to check. On side issue do we think they will lay a new Wembley pitch before PSV. Be 8 days maybe a bit tight.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Actually funny you should say that. Honestly been expecting to see someone bouncing a ball on pitch just to check. On side issue do we think they will lay a new Wembley pitch before PSV. Be 8 days maybe a bit tight.
I don't think they will.
 

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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You can only take the piss out of the very loyal and true supporters for a certain amount of time before they realise they have finally had enough

As the average age of our core support is around 45-55 they need to be very careful

Loyal football supporters that spend a lot of money and travel home and away do not grow on trees anymore especially when you can watch virtually every game these days from the comfort of your own home with a nice cup of Coco

This whole saga has been embarrassing at best and will make thousands of supporters (in the next few years) reevaluate what they spend their time and money on, at worst

why are you blaming the club? the only things they did wrong was the timescale, by the sounds of it use Mace, and make sure Mace never used any rival supporters to be involved in the build
 

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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Back to stadium build issues. Just a question which probably has been asked answered before but I missed. It is with regard to further testing- the bounce of the ball! Has a test been done to see how this elevated pitch affects the bounce and movement off the ball? If not can you imagine after all the delays and disappointments, the stadium opens to a grand fanfare only to see the ball stick to the ground like a shot put or bounce up high like a beach ball?! :(

it was tested at the training ground, but unless the builders have had a sneaky play during their breaks, I don't think it has yet:whistle:
 

davidmatzdorf

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Jun 7, 2004
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Back to stadium build issues. Just a question which probably has been asked answered before but I missed. It is with regard to further testing- the bounce of the ball! Has a test been done to see how this elevated pitch affects the bounce and movement of the ball? If not can you imagine after all the delays and disappointments, the stadium opens to a grand fanfare only to see the ball stick to the ground like a shot put or bounce up high like a beach ball?! :(
it was tested at the training ground, but unless the builders have had a sneaky play during their breaks, I don't think it has yet:whistle:

I can't see how it would be an issue. The soil and the whole pitch-assembly is much too thick and massive for it to affect the flight or rebound of a ball weighing a kilo or less differently than the ground. There's too much mass in the trays and too little, by comparison, in the ball.

A comparison, exaggerated to an extreme to make the point, would be a ping-pong ball bouncing off a 300mm thick brick wall. it wouldn't make any difference if the wall were 600mm thick.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Nov 8, 2004
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I can't see how it would be an issue. The soil and the whole pitch-assembly is much too thick and massive for it to affect the flight or rebound of a ball weighing a kilo or less differently than the ground. There's too much mass in the trays and too little, by comparison, in the ball.

A comparison, exaggerated to an extreme to make the point, would be a ping-pong ball bouncing off a 300mm thick brick wall. it wouldn't make any difference if the wall were 600mm thick.

With this completely new technology and the pitch being in a pretty shallow tray nobody has any idea how the grass and surface will react in relation to injuries

As we know over the years certain surfaces have a history of different types of injuries so I imagine we are in the lap of the gods in this area

Hopefully this surface will be kind to footballers...
 

whitesocks

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Jan 16, 2014
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Danny Rose Exclusive: 'New pitch plays like a Yorkshire Pudding, cover'd with gravy'.
Saft in't middle whitest edges of't trays are dry an' curl oop.
Thy can't run on that - it's a fookin' disgrace.
Mind thee - t' old pitch was complete shite too...
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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Oct 17, 2006
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I can't see how it would be an issue. The soil and the whole pitch-assembly is much too thick and massive for it to affect the flight or rebound of a ball weighing a kilo or less differently than the ground. There's too much mass in the trays and too little, by comparison, in the ball.

A comparison, exaggerated to an extreme to make the point, would be a ping-pong ball bouncing off a 300mm thick brick wall. it wouldn't make any difference if the wall were 600mm thick.
As I said before I have no clue in anything constructive or engineered. This is why my questions seem silly, or at least your knowledge on these subjects make them sound that way. Good to know there wont be any issues with the bounce
 

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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Back to stadium build issues. Just a question which probably has been asked answered before but I missed. It is with regard to further testing- the bounce of the ball! Has a test been done to see how this elevated pitch affects the bounce and movement of the ball? If not can you imagine after all the delays and disappointments, the stadium opens to a grand fanfare only to see the ball stick to the ground like a shot put or bounce up high like a beach ball?! :(

I know you're joking but each section weighs more than 3000 tonnes, not exactly a bouncy castle.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Anybody who has laid a lawn knows that it is basically a top surface which will not penetrate to the lower levels of the pitch trays nor does any footfall on the surface penetrate to any depth so as long as the substance of the tray filling is correct the depth won't affect anything.
 

slartibartfast

Grunge baby forever
Oct 21, 2012
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I can't believe that whole tray has made of paper machè.
Surely this will cause a problem when it rains?
Did nobody look into this?
We're going to look like fools in the winter when Kane bursts into the box and his foot goes clean through the floor!
Amatuers.
 
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