New Stadium Details And Discussions

[soflapaul]

I wouldn't expect sympathy from anyone, but I don't think we should be punished for things outside our control either.

as much as i agree with the results (playing there when we can), its tough to say it was in out of our control. we selected the contractors and agreed to the timeline. and as others point out or allude to, its a 5-6M fine to us but could be worth quite a bit more to teams in the relegation zone or hunting for a champion's league spot, etc. don't think for a second that other teams in the hunt for the Champions League haven't taken notice of the dropping attendance at Wembley. Some will raise a stink if we are allowed into the stadium with a few games left.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

My reply was to the statement “ this ST purchase was just like any season”. Which clearly is utter nonsense. Obviously the actual issues with the build are unfortunate and ultimately I have no idea who is responsible for the delay. But I do know who is responsible for the appalling way communication regarding a 1.4k purchase has been handled. And I’m sorry but anyone that is totally nonchalant about not getting what they were promised or paid for simply hasn’t spent a single penny on this shambles.

I'm pretty calm and I bought a season ticket.

 

[spursfan77]

You’re promised the opportunity to watch football matches. That has been fulfilled and will be fulfilled again today. If the club wanted to, they’re well within their right to offer no refund at all.

No season ticket for any club are you guaranteed the venue that the match will take place in and it should be obvious why clubs won’t guarantee it. Don’t dismiss others ability to be rational, constructive and pragmatic just because you can’t be.

There is no money grab by the club because the sums involved are peanuts, this isn’t a scam and they communicate all that is necessary to the fans. You only think otherwise because you camp out in this forum and glean a tiny bit of insight from some random on twitter.

Yep, it’s all in the T&C’s that came with the season ticket renewal packs. The bit about it jumped off the page when I read it given the potential circumstances.

 

[Lighty64]

My reply was to the statement “ this ST purchase was just like any season”. Which clearly is utter nonsense. Obviously the actual issues with the build are unfortunate and ultimately I have no idea who is responsible for the delay. But I do know who is responsible for the appalling way communication regarding a 1.4k purchase has been handled. And I’m sorry but anyone that is totally nonchalant about not getting what they were promised or paid for simply hasn’t spent a single penny on this shambles.

you paid for a season ticket to watch Spurs, that were meant to play in a New Stadium, and the reason it's more expensive is because the money it has cost to build.

With a building project that Tottenham Hotspur wasn't doing the actual building didn't break any promises, that was down to the people or equipment that failed.

communication? what do you expect a daily email with every single detail in it. they are tying in updates to when they have to provide the PL with an update

if they had said in March that we was going to have to stay at Wembley for 1 more season, you would of paid for a season ticket and gone every game.

oh and get your fact's right, if that was aimed at me, I might of not paid for a ST and that is only because of health, but with the New Stadium and excitement I actually went a head and re-joined as a bronze member in hope to get to see us play before I struggle to travel at all. the trouble with Wembley is, it is much more difficult for me to get to and from because of my health, so haven't gone at all, and because of the small amount of games that are left a chance I'll of paid for something that won't have any use, unless something happens with disabled members and I actually get offered a ST next season at which I will get in debt to get.

plus over my 45 years of going I have given the club plenty of my much earned money

 

[kmk]

My reply was to the statement “ this ST purchase was just like any season”. Which clearly is utter nonsense. Obviously the actual issues with the build are unfortunate and ultimately I have no idea who is responsible for the delay. But I do know who is responsible for the appalling way communication regarding a 1.4k purchase has been handled. And I’m sorry but anyone that is totally nonchalant about not getting what they were promised or paid for simply hasn’t spent a single penny on this shambles.

I can't believe that you are whinging about paying for a £1400 season ticket up front which you haven't been able to use.

Spurs have refunded the money and you won't lose your season ticket if you decide not to buy a ticket for Wembley?

Apart from a maximum 2% interest (£28), how exactly have you lost out?

 

[LeParisien]

Yeah but the difference is weather, injuries etc. Are all things you can't control so that's not really the same. I think where there's a conscious choice involved, then you should keep things as consistent as possible.

I can see both sides. It is clear that the perception of disparity exists and so that in itself is an issue.

Is there actually some clear unfairness? I’m not so sure. Home advantage comes from playing in front of your fans on a pitch you are familiar with. Ordinarily I’d have thought that moving stadium presents a slight disadvantage for the home team whose advantage from knowing their bearings is eliminated. Of course the excitement from moving into your new stadium might counteract that (imagine the atmosphere that first game!) so there can’t be too much in it.

In the end, this “controlled” factor will be far less significant than a host of other uncontrolled factors (form, injuries, suspensions, luck).

Given the rarity of teams changing stadiums, I have a weakly held belief that there is no problem with teams switching stadium mid-season, once every century.

 

[Reece]

I lean toward the side of keeping the venue consistent for each team each season. It’s a controllable factor which undoubtedly does have a general impact on results (home factor). Therefore a league rule should probably exist and be stuck to.

The PL will need to decide if they want to risk being potentially taken to court by a relegated team if another of the threatened teams pick up a win at our new stadium. No idea how that goes.. only team I can remember trying to take PL to court was Sheff Utd and that wasn’t over a stadium I don’t think....

Ultimately as a ST holder I just want us to get in there ASAP! It looks amazing on the inside and I just want to get in my seat and watch us play.

 

[Hotspurious]

Yeah but the difference is weather, injuries etc. Are all things you can't control so that's not really the same. I think where there's a conscious choice involved, then you should keep things as consistent as possible.

Right, but we’ve made a conscious choice to play at a new stadium. But, due to factors we can’t control, we have been unable to. Clubs make conscious choices to rotate players when they have champions league mid week but that doesnt mean that the clubs that have to play that team with its best team are harmed by somecompromose in the integrity of the competition.

 

[mil1lion]

We have every bit as much right to say it's unfair we had to play so much of our season away from home because mistakes were made on our stadium. It was not our fault we're still at Wembley so not sure how we can be prevented from moving in this season. If it were our fault due to something we did wrong then teams would have a fair reason to complain.

 

[chrissivad]

I'm not sure we can say it's unfair. As fans we will see it as unfair, but every team at the start of the season needs to name where they will play home game for the full season.

We had a very tight build scheduled and hired the people doing the work.

We could have gone with other companies who said that it couldn't be done in that time scale.
Unfortunately (for me imo) we will have to do what the FA say. If they say we have to play at Wembley they we just need to get on with it now.

But I hope we can play those last 5 games at the new ground

 

[pook]

I think there's an underlying assumption that it is every club's responsibility to have secured a stadium in which to play. If we had …


… just saw chrissivad's post drop in as I started typing. That's pretty much what I was getting at. However unfortunately it's played out for us, I'm not sure 'it's not our fault' really flies.

 

[eViL]

 

[gilzeantheking]

 

[thekneaf]

My reply was to the statement “ this ST purchase was just like any season”. Which clearly is utter nonsense. Obviously the actual issues with the build are unfortunate and ultimately I have no idea who is responsible for the delay. But I do know who is responsible for the appalling way communication regarding a 1.4k purchase has been handled. And I’m sorry but anyone that is totally nonchalant about not getting what they were promised or paid for simply hasn’t spent a single penny on this shambles.

What frequency of communication would satisfy you? Aren't we getting game by game updates?

 

[eViL]

What frequency of communication would satisfy you? Aren't we getting game by game updates?

I want Daniel to whats-app me.

I can tell him a thing or two about building stadiums and shizzle.

 

[chico]

Unbelievably great time to be a Spurs fan, fantastic manager, excellent squad.
Yeah it's tough playing in one of the best, biggest and most iconic stadiums in the world, and we are all wishing we were already in NWHL , but what a season!
We may not be faves, but we are still in this title race, be positive on all the great things happening to Spurs, rather than negative about the ground
#bepositive #enjoytheride

 

[markiespurs]

I'm pretty calm and I bought a season ticket.

Same here.

My only real gripe with buying a ST this season was that they charged a new stadium premium without the new stadium be signed off as ready to host games.

A much better alternative, as far as i’m concerned, would have been to freeze prices for this season while informing fans that prices would be going up next season to reflect a fully completed and operational stadium.

 

[Giovanni]

Would be great to be in by brighton at home. 4 home league games and if we are still in the hunt for the title then a great boost.

 

[Nerine]

I do feel like everyone needs some motivational quotes to get us through this difficult time.

Hopefully this will help.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

You’re promised the opportunity to watch football matches. That has been fulfilled and will be fulfilled again today. If the club wanted to, they’re well within their right to offer no refund at all.

No season ticket for any club guarantees the venue that the match will take place in and it should be obvious why clubs won’t guarantee it. Don’t dismiss others ability to be rational, constructive and pragmatic just because you can’t be.

There is no money grab by the club because the sums involved are peanuts, this isn’t a scam and they communicate all that is necessary to the fans. You only think otherwise because you camp out in this forum and glean a tiny bit of insight from some random on twitter.