Ok, balls on the line for if Sissoko will be a hit or miss

[TwanYid]

Which game? I didn't know that France played today?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That's not what his wikipeadia, perhaps you see it different to the experts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussa_Sissoko

I won't be surprised to see him line up in the middle with either Dier or Winyama on Saturday, either that or Eriksen will make way if Sissoko starts. depends on how Poch see's those when they return from Internationals

Where does that say he played regularly as a cm2?

The only time he played a deeper role for Toulouse was the very odd occasion when others were injured or suspended, but as I've said, even then it was in a 4141 system.

Even at Newcastle, when played in cm it was invariably a 433 that Pardew played. Not a cm2.

Pochettino may play him as a cm2, he has done with Alli after all, so it won't surprise me, I just don't think he'll be great there, and it would seem odd to me to pay 30m for a player and play him in a position we have others already better suited to.

 

[Lighty64]

Where does that say he played regularly as a cm2?

The only time he played a deeper role for Toulouse was the very odd occasion when others were injured or suspended, but as I've said, even then it was in a 4141 system.

Even at Newcastle, when played in cm it was invariably a 433 that Pardew played. Not a cm2.

Pochettino may play him as a cm2, he has done with Alli after all, so it won't surprise me, I just don't think he'll be great there, and it would seem odd to me to pay 30m for a player and play him in a position we have others already better suited to.

it might not say they played a 4-2-3-1, but he was the box-to-box player exactly what Dembele can do, and what Alli did is his few apps there. a 4-2-3-1 doesn't restrict a player going over the half way line. yes Poch has played 2 very defensive players so far as the teams and timing have not allowed him to experiment with Winks.

He won't be a regular in that position, he will play it when Dembele is rested or suspended or injured

"
2008–2013
Following the departure of Emana to Spain, Casanova put Sissoko into the box-to-box midfielder role ahead of the 2008–09 season to accommodate emerging defensive midfielder Étienne Capoue into the starting lineup, as well as Étienne Didot, who arrived fromRennes. The move allowed Sissoko to retain his defensive duties, but also showcase his attacking skills. He began the season featuring primarily as a substitute under Casanova, but by December, Sissoko had become a regular in the starting eleven. On 24 January 2009, he scored his first goal of the season against amateur Alsatian club FCE Schirrhein in an 8–0 thrashing in the Coupe de France. It was a memorable goal with Sissoko running nearly the entire pitch with the ball at his feet, eluding several Schirrhein players, before finishing at the six-yard box.[19][20] Toulouse reached the semi-finals of the competition before losing 2–1 to the eventual winners Guingamp.[21] In the league, Sissoko was a key contributor in helping a refurbished Toulouse side finish 4th in the league, leading to qualification for the newly created UEFA Europa League. He scored his first goal of the league campaign on 7 February in a 2–0 victory over Le Mans.[22] Sissoko also scored goals in victories over Derby de la Garonne rivals Bordeaux and Paris Saint-Germain.[23][24] In total, he made 40 appearances and scored five goals. For his efforts, he was nominated for the UNFP Young Player of the Year, along with teammate Capoue who also had an outstanding season."

 

[Bus-Conductor]

it might not say they played a 4-2-3-1, but he was the box-to-box player exactly what Dembele can do, and what Alli did is his few apps there. a 4-2-3-1 doesn't restrict a player going over the half way line. yes Poch has played 2 very defensive players so far as the teams and timing have not allowed him to experiment with Winks.

He won't be a regular in that position, he will play it when Dembele is rested or suspended or injured

"
2008–2013
Following the departure of Emana to Spain, Casanova put Sissoko into the box-to-box midfielder role ahead of the 2008–09 season to accommodate emerging defensive midfielder Étienne Capoue into the starting lineup, as well as Étienne Didot, who arrived fromRennes. The move allowed Sissoko to retain his defensive duties, but also showcase his attacking skills. He began the season featuring primarily as a substitute under Casanova, but by December, Sissoko had become a regular in the starting eleven. On 24 January 2009, he scored his first goal of the season against amateur Alsatian club FCE Schirrhein in an 8–0 thrashing in the Coupe de France. It was a memorable goal with Sissoko running nearly the entire pitch with the ball at his feet, eluding several Schirrhein players, before finishing at the six-yard box.[19][20] Toulouse reached the semi-finals of the competition before losing 2–1 to the eventual winners Guingamp.[21] In the league, Sissoko was a key contributor in helping a refurbished Toulouse side finish 4th in the league, leading to qualification for the newly created UEFA Europa League. He scored his first goal of the league campaign on 7 February in a 2–0 victory over Le Mans.[22] Sissoko also scored goals in victories over Derby de la Garonne rivals Bordeaux and Paris Saint-Germain.[23][24] In total, he made 40 appearances and scored five goals. For his efforts, he was nominated for the UNFP Young Player of the Year, along with teammate Capoue who also had an outstanding season."

Listen mate, I promise you, he rarely played as part of a cm2, Capoue And Didot always played the deeper roles when available. As I have explained several times now, Toulouse played a 4141 system which was a diamond in attacking scenarios which did flatten out defensively, but there was always Capoue and Didot (who was a great little player) in there with him, barring the odd game when one of those two were injured or suspended etc. It nearly always looked something like this:

---------Capoue

-----------Didot

Sissoko--------------tabanou

----------------braatan
-------------Gignac

As I've also repeatedly said, he did have to muck in, the "4" all had to work and track back and be adaptable (for example if Capoue or Didot charged forward) and Sissoko did his defensive duties, often forming a cm3 or 4, he didn't mind tackling (but was often a bit clumsy at it) but he was always more comfortable playing or charging forward.

 

[EllenAlex]

Not sure I understand your reply. My questions were genuine; away from football I do enjoy other topics and sports, so forgive me for being 'away in the clouds' for this one

Edit: I see, now. Not always easy to detect sarcasm etc by words alone. I'm not that aware of every poster's mode of funny. I will learn though, and yes it was quite a funny take on current affairs at Spurs regarding Sissoko. Well played

 

[Basil Brush]

There's really no need to build this signing into more than it is. Sissoko is a £20m signing who, in the post-TV deal world, has turned into a £30m one.

In that context, he cost less than Lamela and Soldado, and about the same as Sonny and Paulinho from the pre-deal days. We don't normally freak about about players in that price range; it's not a marquee or statement signing.

A normal, healthy optimism/expectancy/trepidation is fine, just the same as when Sonny arrived, but no need for too much drama.

One of the best posts i have read.

On a sidenote, who cares about the price? If we can afford it, which we obviously can, it is a no brainer

 

[djw1973]

Harry Kane & Alli looked terrible at the Euros so should we now sell them off?

Ok, as I am not an avid watcher of the Swiss league, this was the first time that I had a chance to see Embolo play. As we were constantly linked with him, I watched his performances with interest. In my opinion, he wasn't very good. This is my opinion. I may be incorrect, it happens.

So, no this doesn't mean we should sell Kane and Dele, but it does mean that I am not going to watch every game if every player that we are linked with.

I hope you are ok with this as I would like to be able to post my opinion in the future without having to explain my philosophy on every aspect of football/footballers.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Definitely a hit.

 

[michaelden]

Definitely a hit.

Snap, just voted and I think he'll be a hit... in the replays, with slo-mo

 

[PostmanNat]

Well it's a good job the majority of voters weren't wrong..

 

[Col_M]

Sissoko is our Brexit isn't he.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

75 % voted yes?! Not the first time the SC consensus has been way off, though.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Hit for me, if Poch can get a consistent tune out of him we've got ourselves a smasher.

 

[SUIYHA]

Sissoko is our Brexit isn't he.

This is why democracy is bullshit. People are stupid. Stupid electorate = stupid decisions.

On a serious note - I'm quite surprised how overwhelming the result was. I seem to remember the sentiment on Glory-Glory and amongst fans I knew personally being far more apprehensive about this signing. Too many fan boys during a manager's honeymoon period that take the pathetic "if he's good enough for him then he's good enough for me" attitude. Even the best managers sign absolute donkeys sometimes.

 

[yankspurs]

Proud to be one of the 103 smart ones who said no. The rest of you, how did you not see this coming?

 

[dontcallme]

Proud to be one of the 103 smart ones who said no. The rest of you, how did you not see this coming?

Don't know, do you still think we miss Dempsey as much as Bale or that we had no chance at top 4 last season?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Proud to be one of the 103 smart ones who said no. The rest of you, how did you not see this coming?

You're a people person, I like that

 

[bubble07]

Cant believe I went goat. I hate myself for it

 

[dontcallme]

Cant believe I went goat. I hate myself for it

I'm massively on the fence over this one.

At the beginning of the window I said I really didn't want Sissoko or Wijnaldum. I didn't think they performed consistently last season or stepped up when the going got tough.

With Sissoko not sure where he'll play.

But it appears the management want him and that is enough for me.

So I'll support him and believe he can be a success but my head thinks he probably won't be.

I had the issue of going with my head and being accused of thinking I know better than the manager or sticking to my opinion and writing a player off before he'd had a chance.

 

[nightgoat]

Oh, to remember all the tonnes of abuse people got on here for saying Sissoko was a shit signing at the time...