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thinktank

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I disagree to an extent, he is beyond U21 football hence why he has only played 45mins this season. He has been playing that for 3 years but more like 2 years consistently.

He is the most highly rated player we had in the academy. I think him playing europa, FA cup and making the bench is fine atm, but if we were to get him a premier league loan. I would go for it as he is more than good enough to come back and make a big contribution next season.
I've already said I want him to be ahead of Chadli as I think he has far greater potential and I still think that. I really think this kid is ready now and we should use him.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I disagree to an extent, he is beyond U21 football hence why he has only played 45mins this season. He has been playing that for 3 years but more like 2 years consistently.

He is the most highly rated player we had in the academy. I think him playing europa, FA cup and making the bench is fine atm, but if we were to get him a premier league loan. I would go for it as he is more than good enough to come back and make a big contribution next season.
He wont get a Prem loan, lets be real here. Name me one 18 year old youth prospect that has in the history of the Premier League?
 

beats1

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He wont get a Prem loan, lets be real here. Name me one 18 year old youth prospect that has in the history of the Premier League?
Jack Wilshere - he actually had it the season he was 17

I think a loan would have been possible had Timmy still been at Villa hence the link at the start of the season and I actually think he would of made his first start
 

beats1

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Good shout, but look at him now, he's physically burnt out.
I don't think Onomah is at risk of burn out and Im not saying playing 40-50 games a season

Compared to his peers who are a very talented group if not the most talented age group england has had. He is one of the ones that has played the least amount of footy
I've already said I want him to be ahead of Chadli as I think he has far greater potential and I still think that. I really think this kid is ready now and we should use him.
I don't think Onomah is the type of player to replace chadli, if anything I think Alli is doing that and thats why imo poch has been playing him more left wing in the last 3 games

Onomah is similar to Dembele dribbling wise but with much better passing and vision but nowhere as good defensively yet. He is often compared to Pogba and knows it himself
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I don't think Onomah is at risk of burn out and Im not saying playing 40-50 games a season

Compared to his peers who are a very talented group if not the most talented age group england has had. He is one of the ones that has played the least amount of footy

I don't think Onomah is the type of player to replace chadli, if anything I think Alli is doing that and thats why imo poch has been playing him more left wing in the last 3 games

Onomah is similar to Dembele dribbling wise but with much better passing and vision but nowhere as good defensively yet. He is often compared to Pogba and knows it himself
It's not about how much football he has played so far, it's about how much he will play if he's loaned out. If I'm a lower end Premier league Manager I want to bring in loans that will improve the first team, I'm not looking to develop another teams prospects 'the right way'. Wilshere is the only example of this happening, probably because he was hyped up to be the next Maradona and was already an England U-21 international. IMO there is no rush to get him out playing, let his body develop and if he's not getting many games for us this time next season that would be the time to start looking at getting him a loan.
 

thinktank

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I don't think Onomah is at risk of burn out and Im not saying playing 40-50 games a season

Compared to his peers who are a very talented group if not the most talented age group england has had. He is one of the ones that has played the least amount of footy

I don't think Onomah is the type of player to replace chadli, if anything I think Alli is doing that and thats why imo poch has been playing him more left wing in the last 3 games

Onomah is similar to Dembele dribbling wise but with much better passing and vision but nowhere as good defensively yet. He is often compared to Pogba and knows it himself
I'd much prefer to see him come on the left or right of A3 than Chadli. I think he'll be able to play CM or across the A3 comfortably (central being his sweet spot, as you say).

Poch doesn't see players one dimensionally so I fully expect him to be used flexibly.

Also, I'd say he's far better, defensively, than Chadli already and drops quickly to help out when he plays and is very strong and has very good pace.

The goals will come for him as well imo.

I haven't got a any doubts about josh, I think he might even have a higher ceiling that alli.
 

g_harry

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for me this kid should b on the bench ahead of Chadli. Was very impressive any time he has came on and was great against Monaco. Huge potential, lets hope Poch can nurture him like he did Kane.
 

Flashspur

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I think Josh will be a monster player for us. Silky skills, great physical presence, humble but mature kid. I agree with @thinktank, I think his ceiling may be higher then Alli although they are slightly different players. One is an AM and the other a CM.

I don't know why there is all the fuss about our scouting for Nigerians like Yahaya (sic) etc. We don't need to go abroad, because we can just tap into our homegrown Nigerian contingent - Onomah, Oduwa, Alli etc. and there are a few more on that assembly line.
 

oskathegobshite

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He's had an encouraging start to his career and I rate him highly as a prospect but pick him over Chadli? Drop me out.

Chadli is an experienced international footballer at or near his peak with a proven track record of goals from midfield in this League. We are also in a season where he will be desperate to use club form to cement his place in the Belgium line up for the Euros in France.

Onomah looks good and if he is as good as he looks and keeps up with his progress I expect him to get minutes in all competitions we are in, the Manager clearly trusts him as evidenced at the Emirates.

He's not ahead of Chadli though.
 

nicdic

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There's no rush as far as I'm concerned. We can be pretty sure that Pochettino picks players on merit, and so Chadli must have come back firing since his injury and training well to get in ahead of him. Onomah seems incredibly grounded, and I reckon we'll see more of him yet this season. He'll work hard and get better and better. He's been given a taste, did well with it, and now needs to earn his place.
 

Kiedis

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No reason to doubt Poch when it comes to managing youngsters. He watches these guys quite a bit more than we do, and we cant accuse him and his guys for not knowing their shit when it comes to bringing through youth.
 

beats1

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I wouldn't pick him ahead of Chadli, I think Alli is Chadli's problem
I'd much prefer to see him come on the left or right of A3 than Chadli. I think he'll be able to play CM or across the A3 comfortably (central being his sweet spot, as you say).

Poch doesn't see players one dimensionally so I fully expect him to be used flexibly.

Also, I'd say he's far better, defensively, than Chadli already and drops quickly to help out when he plays and is very strong and has very good pace.

The goals will come for him as well imo.

I haven't got a any doubts about josh, I think he might even have a higher ceiling that alli.
The thing playing him in the middle isn't being one dimensional, lets not forget he has spent a lot of his early youth career in DM with a partner like Bentaleb next to him.

He can play DM, CM and AM but he needs to improve defensively to be deeper in the PL.

The reason he needs to be played in the middle is so that he can dictate the tempo and find space all over the pitch rather than limiting him on the wing where you need to be better off the ball than onomah is imo
 

thinktank

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I wouldn't pick him ahead of Chadli, I think Alli is Chadli's problem

The thing playing him in the middle isn't being one dimensional, lets not forget he has spent a lot of his early youth career in DM with a partner like Bentaleb next to him.

He can play DM, CM and AM but he needs to improve defensively to be deeper in the PL.

The reason he needs to be played in the middle is so that he can dictate the tempo and find space all over the pitch rather than limiting him on the wing where you need to be better off the ball than onomah is imo
Well we're not gonna agree on this one, but I think you might be surprised at how genuinely versatile he'll become.

Either way he's gonna be a special player.
 

allpaths

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What a talent, would like to see him stick around for the cups and for first team insurance, instead of going out on loan. i quite like the path that the club has got him on right now.
 

Snarfalicious

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I think I've been most surprised (and impressed) by his versatility. He simply looks comfortable in just about any position you put him in from midfield to attack.

It'll be interesting to see how he might carve himself a role in this squad. Townsend leaving (I consider this to be a certainty) opens up a spot in the positions behind the striker. The problem is we already have Son, Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli, Alli, NJie, and Pritchard there. It's a deep group all things considered. Maybe we look to sell Chadli in the summer to really open the position up and allow for Onomah to get a substantial amount of minutes via our European competition/Domestic cups.

Either way, I think you have to make a substantial role for him next season. He should be worked in slowly this year, show him the ropes and let him see what is expected of him first hand, and then expand on that next year in what will hopefully be a "spring board" type season.
 
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