Options on the Olympic Stadium move

[Rout-Ledge]

If we 100% own the TM for Tottenham Hotspur then how could they object. Chelsea aren't in the Borough of Kensington and Chelsea they are in Hammersmith and Fulham? Whats the problem?

There isn't one. People are being hysterical and making up rubbish because they are opposed to the move.

 

[MattyP]

Why does the highlighted apply if we built a new stadium in Stratford instead of on the original site? Edit: Sorry, may have missed the point

It's okay. Also, a number of people I drink with pre and post match and stand with have already said they will not go to Stratford.

Even if I did decide to renew my ticket and become a pikey, some of them would not. Would be a sad day for the club if some of these guys never turned up to games - would certainly have an impact on the atmosphere.

[By the way, we're in block 31 on the shelf, closest block to the Park Lane, so it's not like we sit down and be quiet or just individually say to each other "Isn't Jenas shit today"].

 

[andyw362]

Looks like Gibbsy isnt gonna support us anymore.

 

[AngerManagement]

There isn't one. People are being hysterical and making up rubbish because they are opposed to the move.

totally agree.

Chelsea are not in Chelsea, QPR are not in Queens Park (don't see the queen forcing them to be called Shepherd Bush Rangers)

PEople are scaremongering with this and claims that we would lose 10k fans as a result of the move in an attempt to make their protest seem more dramatic when they should just stick to the real issues i.e. history, tradition and heritage not start making up shit.

 

[MattyP]

What about away games on TV? Will you just not support us when we have a home game?

As I say, I don't have a scooby what I would do.

But I chose the away only option as I would consider getting an away season ticket, if such a thing exists under "One Hotspur", or if not I'd get a platinum season ticket and let someone else have the games at Stratford.

But, hey ho, I still come back to I don't know what I would really do if push comes to shove.

 

[AngerManagement]

It's okay. Also, a number of people I drink with pre and post match and stand with have already said they will not go to Stratford.

Even if I did decide to renew my ticket and become a pikey, some of them would not. Would be a sad day for the club if some of these guys never turned up to games - would certainly have an impact on the atmosphere.

[By the way, we're in block 31 on the shelf, closest block to the Park Lane, so it's not like we sit down and be quiet or just individually say to each other "Isn't Jenas shit today"].

Some might not, but most would and talk is cheap.

When the dust settled (baring in mind there would be years to come to terms with the prospect after plans were granted until the stadium was ready for action) I think people would 'come around' to an extent.

Maybe still wish we didn't have to move, but people will for the most part realise it is the club they love and all the things they love about the club can carry on in it's new home (same pre and post match drink, watch the same team with same range of highs and lows and talk with like minded spurs fans around you in your seating are....same arguments with stewards telling you to sit down etc etc)

I think right now people are talking with their heart and angry at the prospect of having to move, and I totally understand this....but if it were to happen I think by the time the move was made 90% of these fans would follow the club to stratford because at the end of the day it is the club you love.

 

[morpheus]

Ok, what if, as is being reported in the London Evening Standard, we change our name? Not because we want to, but because we could face legal action for using the name Tottenham, we could be forced into renaming the club. mg:

There are many example of clubs who are named after places that they no longer play in Chelsea play in Fulham West Ham play in East Ham Queens Park Rangers play in Shepards bush, yet they've still kept there original name. Obviously if we moved to another town or city that would be different.

 

[MattyP]

Some might not, but most would and talk is cheap.

When the dust settled (baring in mind there would be years to come to terms with the prospect after plans were granted until the stadium was ready for action) I think people would 'come around' to an extent.

Maybe still wish we didn't have to move, but people will for the most part realise it is the club they love and all the things they love about the club can carry on in it's new home (same pre and post match drink, watch the same team with same range of highs and lows and talk with like minded spurs fans around you in your seating are....same arguments with stewards telling you to sit down etc etc)

I think right now people are talking with their heart and angry at the prospect of having to move, and I totally understand this....but if it were to happen I think by the time the move was made 90% of these fans would follow the club to stratford because at the end of the day it is the club you love.

Same pre and post match drinks? I doubt it, we'll have to swap the unfurnished, half falling down, spit and sawdust type pub for some swanky fucking soul less bar in Westfields battling against Sharon and Tracey on a break from fucking Primark.

I'm sure that a percentage will mellow in their views, though the people around me are pretty strong minded, so I doubt it'll be anywhere near the 90% you believe. But I hope neither you nor I get the opportunity to be proved right or wrong.

 

[StartingPrice]

I may be wrong on this, but isn't St Mary's technically not in Southampton:shrug:

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I may be wrong on this, but isn't St Mary's technically not in Southampton:shrug:

Old Trafford 'aint in Manchester either

 

[AngerManagement]

Same pre and post match drinks? I doubt it, we'll have to swap the unfurnished, half falling down, spit and sawdust type pub for some swanky fucking soul less bar in Westfields battling against Sharon and Tracey on a break from fucking Primark.

I'm sure that a percentage will mellow in their views, though the people around me are pretty strong minded, so I doubt it'll be anywhere near the 90% you believe. But I hope neither you nor I get the opportunity to be proved right or wrong.

I'm pretty sure come the time they will build sports bars and old fashion boozer type pubs to appeal to the wants and needs of the supporters in the area (money talks and the demand will create the supply I believe)

We shall see, I still get the feeling West Ham will win the bid.

Although the very notion of a 60k Athletics venue being needed in the UK is crazy, my friend was 100m runner for GB at Various age groups and I used to travel with him up and down the country and to be honest there is probably more of an active support for darts and snooker than AThletics in this country.

Put it this way, I hope and would like to think that if the club does end up moving fans will not cut their nose of to spite their face and continue to support their club inspite of their distaste for the move.

IF it happens it happens, I think peoples love of the club should be strong enough to carry on supporting and loving the club even in it's new home.

We shall see, and your right....until we find out who wins the bid and know what actually is happening all this talk is mere specualtion.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'm pretty sure come the time they will build sports bars and old fashion boozer type pubs to appeal to the wants and needs of the supporters in the area (money talks and the demand will create the supply I believe)

We shall see, I still get the feeling West Ham will win the bid.

Although the very notion of a 60k Athletics venue being needed in the UK is crazy, my friend was 100m runner for GB at Various age groups and I used to travel with him up and down the country and to be honest there is probably more of an active support for darts and snooker than AThletics in this country.

Put it this way, I hope and would like to think that if the club does end up moving fans will not cut their nose of to spite their face and continue to support their club inspite of their distaste for the move.

IF it happens it happens, I think peoples love of the club should be strong enough to carry on supporting and loving the club even in it's new home.

We shall see, and your right....until we find out who wins the bid and know what actually is happening all this talk is mere specualtion.

Also, purely speculatively, if it was them making a decision that could potentially save them hundreds of millions of pounds, they may put tradition and arguably minor geographical issues to one side. I sure as hell would.

 

[AngerManagement]

I may be wrong on this, but isn't St Mary's technically not in Southampton:shrug:

St Mary's is an area in Southampton I believe, but I think the Stadium is actually in Northam (which I also think is part of Southampton but my knowledge on the area is not great)

 

[Stavrogin]

Well, they'd never win in court. It's mind boggling that Lammy would think they could. It's also counter productive - because a lot of people (neutrals) would probably see it as the club being held hostage by the local council.

 

[archiewasking]

I can't bear the idea of moving away from Tottenham. All that history. All those great nights. The players over the years. The atmosphere. I know the business argument, but as the Beatles said, money can't buy you love. Just a cheap and sordid pale shadow of it. Which is what my heart says Stratford would turn us into. Something insubstantial when viewed in the light of what we would lose.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I can't bear the idea of moving away from Tottenham. All that history. All those great nights. The players over the years. The atmosphere. I know the business argument, but as the Beatles said, money can't buy you love. Just a cheap and sordid pale shadow of it. Which is what my heart says Stratford would turn us into. Something insubstantial when viewed in the light of what we would lose.

All sentimentality reasons. We aren't Liverpool fans Just to play Devil's advocate, all those reasons could be used in respect of us building a new stadium in Tottenham. It has nothing to do with the area, and everything to do with White Hart Lane

 

[StartingPrice]

Old Trafford 'aint in Manchester either

I know. Folk ahve been listing clubs whose grounds aren't located in the place you would expect from the name of the club - including Rugby Clubs, 'London Irish' for instance:up:

St Mary's is an area in Southampton I believe, but I think the Stadium is actually in Northam (which I also think is part of Southampton but my knowledge on the area is not great)

I wasn't sure...I have never been there (my only knowledge of it comes from studying 'Hamweh', which was the Anglo-Saxon port, and some smart-arsse will say I've spelt wrong:grin. More that I have a vague idea that some Saints fans protested about the move 'cos it was out-of-town - though, like I said, I could be wrong, it is just a faint recollection.

 

[AngerManagement]

I know. Folk ahve been listing clubs whose grounds aren't located in the place you would expect from the name of the club - including Rugby Clubs, 'London Irish' for instance:up:



I wasn't sure...I have never been there (my only knowledge of it comes from studying 'Hamweh', which was the Anglo-Saxon port, and some smart-arsse will say I've spelt wrong:grin. More that I have a vague idea that some Saints fans protested about the move 'cos it was out-of-town - though, like I said, I could be wrong, it is just a faint recollection.

probably because it was not in the city centre but moving in the the suburban boroughs

 

[StartingPrice]

probably because it was not in the city centre but moving in the the suburban boroughs

I think it was situated near an out-of-town retail park. I had the impression at the time that the retail park was not technically within the boundaries of Southampton, as well. Like I said, Imight have put two and two together and got 79 (Eek).

Perhaps someone from down that way (sounds like a euphemism:grin could clarify for us:shrug:

 

[Spurger King]

All sentimentality reasons. We aren't Liverpool fans Just to play Devil's advocate, all those reasons could be used in respect of us building a new stadium in Tottenham. It has nothing to do with the area, and everything to do with White Hart Lane

Very true, and a rare repping from moi to underline just how relevant this observation is. Liverpool fans I know will be incredibly sad to eventually leave Anfield due to the historical importance of the place, but they are willing to accept that the club need to move on.

Don't get me wrong. My sentiments lie on the side of those that see the importance of us being a north London club, that started in Tottenham marshes, and went on to create one of the most successful teams in England whilst staying in that very same area. If we can stay in Tottenham, I'd be very happy.

However, Levy and co are business people...they want the club to be successful so they can sell the club on when we are at our most attractive as a prospective investment. If there is a large amount of money to be saved by moving, this money will be used for the benefit of the team (whether on players....facilities...publicity...), and will ultimately be undertaken for the good of the club.

White Hart Lane has reached its end. Whether we stay in Tottenham or move elsewhere, it will nevertheless remain a gigantic aspect of our history. But history is about change.