OS decision delayed!

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A decision on the future use of the 2012 Olympic Stadium, scheduled for Friday, has been postponed The Olympic Park Legacy Company says it needs more time to study rival bids from Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham.
West Ham have pledged to retain the athletics track, but Spurs would demolish the £537m stadium and rebuild it as a football-only venue.
The OPLC is in charge of securing an economically viable future for the Olympic Park post the 2012 Games.
A spokesman said: "Given the detailed nature of both bids received, we need more time to seek further clarification with both bidders in order to identify a preferred bidder.
"The stadium is a significant public asset and we have a duty to run a robust process.
"Securing the most appropriate solution for the stadium is vital to our long-term aspirations for the future Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park and the wider regeneration of the area."
Alongside the two shortlisted bids, the OPLC also has the option of converting the stadium into a 25,000 seat, mixed-use venue.

The spokesman added: "In going to market, the Legacy Company's aim was to consider options which would enhance and build on that plan."
An athletics legacy is one of the key promises that London 2012 made to the International Olympic Committee when it won the right to stage the Games.
But while Tottenham plan to remove the athletics track if their bid is successful, West Ham have vowed to keep it.
The Hammers, in a joint bid with Newham Council, want to create a 60,000-capacity arena for football, athletics, concerts and community use.
Tottenham, in a joint bid with sports and entertainment company AEG, would create an athletics legacy by contributing to the refurbishment of the National Sports Centre at Crystal Palace.
The north London club have been given planning permission to redevelop White Hart Lane but chairman Daniel Levy has voiced concerns about the "viability and deliverability" of the proposed update of the ground in Tottenham.
West Ham will be loaned £40m by Newham Council to help with their redevelopment plans if they are chosen as preferred tenants of the Olympic Stadium.
Any OPLC recommendation will have to be ratified by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, and the Department of Communities and Local Government, and the London Mayor's office.
The ultimate deadline for the OLPC is the end of the financial year, although currently there is no suggestion it will take that long to make its decision.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/london_2012/9371972.stm
 

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i think Seb Coe is going to have to get back on the phone with the IOC after all! Muppet
 

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Does this mean we can turn our attention towards signing a striker?
what are you talking about? don't you know our plan is to buy all the midfielders in the world, leaving every other team without a midfield.

it is a cunning plan
 

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they'll probably wait until the end of the season to see if west ham get relegated or not
 

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The fact that they have delayed the decision makes me think that there is more of a chance we will get the go ahead than West Ham.

West Ham's arguments and that of Seb Coe are irrational and clearly from an emotive perspective. There is no way that West Ham's offer for the stadium is in any aspect better than our offer.

The fact that will be looking at things more clearly and with greater detail means that sensible logic will take over and they will start making decisions with more of a pragmatic view.

My own hope is that we win the bid so we get greater leverage on the Northumberland Project.
 

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An OPLC spokesman said: "Given the detailed nature of both bids received, we need more time to seek further clarification with both bidders in order to identify a preferred bidder.
"The stadium is a significant public asset and we have a duty to run a robust process.
"Securing the most appropriate solution for the Stadium is vital to our long-term aspirations for the future Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park and the wider regeneration of the area.
"In addition to the two shortlisted bids, the Legacy Company also has the option of the original plan to convert the Olympic Stadium to a 25,000 seats, mixed-use venue. In going to market, the Legacy Company's aim was to consider options which would enhance and build on that plan."
 

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The fact that they have delayed the decision makes me think that there is more of a chance we will get the go ahead than West Ham.

West Ham's arguments and that of Seb Coe are irrational and clearly from an emotive perspective. There is no way that West Ham's offer for the stadium is in any aspect better than our offer.

The fact that will be looking at things more clearly and with greater detail means that sensible logic will take over and they will start making decisions with more of a pragmatic view.

My own hope is that we win the bid so we get greater leverage on the Northumberland Project.
Mine too. But aren't we irrecoverably committed to following through if we win?
 

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Mine too. But aren't we irrecoverably committed to following through if we win?
not sure about that.

it sounded like the stipulation about putting down a deposit, may not have been one of the stipulations for submitting a bid. It sounds like they added that in half way through, when there was talk that spurs might be using it as leverage for the NDP.

I would not be certain about it though
 
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They need a little more time to assess whether or not to allow for a Ann Summers Concession instead of WHU club shop. They think that Anne Summers is commercially more viable due to huge amount of C**ts passing through every other Saturday
 

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My quess is they realise West Hams bid is unrealistic, coupled with the fact that the mayor of Newham has had countless gifts from West Ham along with other councillors.
Tessa Sanderson a member of the OPLC failing to disclose her contract with Newham, one of the bidders. You really couldn't make it up.:)

The OPLC are in a crisis situation in my opinion.
 

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An OPLC spokesman said: "Given the detailed nature of both bids received, we need more time to seek further clarification with both bidders in order to identify a preferred bidder.
"The stadium is a significant public asset and we have a duty to run a robust process.
"Securing the most appropriate solution for the Stadium is vital to our long-term aspirations for the future Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park and the wider regeneration of the area.
"In addition to the two shortlisted bids, the Legacy Company also has the option of the original plan to convert the Olympic Stadium to a 25,000 seats, mixed-use venue. In going to market, the Legacy Company's aim was to consider options which would enhance and build on that plan."
-This sounds to me like they've realised neither bid is what they want for the site and they want to redo the analysis of the Legacy Company's original plan, so as to just have a 25,000 seater mixed venue.

Although thinking about it, that might make perfect sense for Leyton Orient!
 

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Does this mean we can turn our attention towards signing a striker?
Yes, because all our efforts were being put into the Stadium. So now we can focus all our efforts on a striker. Then we can go back to putting all our efforts into the Stadium again. After that we can finally put all our efforts into scratching our arses.
 

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Yes, because all our efforts were being put into the Stadium. So now we can focus all our efforts on a striker. Then we can go back to putting all our efforts into the Stadium again. After that we can finally put all our efforts into scratching our arses.
I knew I was forgetting to do something today :think:
 

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-This sounds to me like they've realised neither bid is what they want for the site and they want to redo the analysis of the Legacy Company's original plan, so as to just have a 25,000 seater mixed venue.

Although thinking about it, that might make perfect sense for Leyton Orient!
it does sound a bit like that alright
 

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I think it's probably good news for the Spurs bid. I'm thinking that they might be asking Spurs to change their bid to one that is more acceptable. As much as I think we should go to the OS, I think we could have done more to soften the blow. All things being equal they would surely prefer we got it but WH gives them what they want and we don't

Levy confirmed yesterday that our original bid contained an athletics facility in the Olympic Park, but not why they've changed their minds. Surely it doesn't make a difference to us whether there's a smaller stadium in the park and it would be much better for athletics to have one at Crystal Palace.

If we could retain the lease on the OS we could use it to our/AEG's advantage. Firstly we could use it for reserve games but we could also use it for cricket, athletics, maybe even sub-let to a permanent rugby club, not to mention smaller concerts that wouldn't work in a 60,000 seater place. It'd would have the potential to be a nice money spinner
 
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I think it's probably good news for the Spurs bid. I'm thinking that they might be asking Spurs to change their bid to one that is more acceptable. As much as I think we should go to the OS, I think we could have done more to soften the blow. All things being equal they would surely prefer we got it but WH gives them what they want and we don't

Levy confirmed yesterday that our original bid contained an athletics facility in the Olympic Park, but not why they've changed their minds. Surely it doesn't make a difference to us whether there's a smaller stadium in the park and it would be much better for athletics to have one at Crystal Palace.

If we could retain the lease on the OS we could use it to our/AEG's advantage. Firstly we could use it for reserve games but we could also use it for cricket, athletics, maybe even sub-let to a permanent rugby club, not to mention smaller concerts that wouldn't work in a 60,000 seater place. It'd would have the potential to be a nice money spinner
I'm a bit confused as to where you've got the idea that Levy confirmed that our original bid contained an athletics legacy in the Olympic Park. I've not seen this, and he certainly didn't mention it in his message to the fans on the website. I don't see that there is room for two stadiums on the Olympic stadium part of the Olympic Park, and Tottenham have consistently pointed out that mixing football and athletics in the same stadium just does not work for football in terms of atmosphere and viewing distance. So I think this is a non-runner.

My suspicion is that the committee thinks that the West Ham bid will be a disaster, with West Ham opting out after they get the go-ahead, or trying to change their bid so that it only relates to football, or trying to go ahead and getting themselves into even more financial straits than they are already. Each of these scenarios suggest the result would be a white elephant or nothing at all for athletics, or both. However there has been such a loud wailing and gnashing of teeth by vested interests and the media generally at the prospect of Tottenham winning the bid, that the bid committee, I suspect, feel obliged to forensically take apart the West Ham bid, and show to all and sundry exactly why it is not workable. Otherwise, they will be on a hiding to nothing from the Labour politicians (and Lord Coe) who promoted the original pie-in-the-sky stadium concept, the athletics lobby and the Newham mafia.

The only thing I think Tottenham might consider is to invite Leyton Orient to be their tenants, which while a political masterstroke would take a very heavy toll on the pitch.
 
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