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Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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Wembley's too big IMO. The atmosphere gets lost. NWHL is a perfect size, much bigger than WHL, but small enough and close enough to the pitch to maintain the old WHL atmosphere.
This is exactly why we got Goldilocks to draw up the plans.
 

Pleat_Out

Active Member
Nov 16, 2003
260
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It is quite reasonable and rational to be a pessimistic Spurs fan. If we do well it is a big surprise and everyone is happy. If we do badly the pessimists are surprised and the optimistists are gutted. Adter 8 FA Cup semi defeats I know where I stand on this! :)
 

Azazello

The Boney King of Nowhere
Aug 15, 2009
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5,069
Just support the team, crap or not, brilliantly executed business plan or not. Part of the problem is that football for many is a form of entertainment. I remember someone here posting that he didn't care if Spurs own or lost, he just wanted to be entertained. Get too many people like that at matches and your atmosphere's going bye-bye.

There's a lot to be said for supporting a shit team as you go because you love the club and for no real other reason; i know a couple of QPR season ticket holders and that's why they go. Gets more complicated when you expect success.
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
60,369
130,268
Spent Saturday afternoon at a cold Villa Park. Mid table Championship clash with two teams I remember being top flight regulars. Both have far more to complain about than us and our recent ‘crisis’. Yet despite that it was a great afternoon, great game, great atmosphere with singing pretty much non-stop. Villa Park looks about 25 years out of date compared to the standards now and had the top tier of the Trinity Road closed to keep the crowd compact. But it was a real footballing experience with passionate Villa fans who in the end left disappointed. It felt like an afternoon I used to have when I first started going to football. It didn’t feel as gentrified as my recent experiences of football. It’s all very well having a shiny new stadium and possession stats in your favour but you don’t need them to know you’ve got your monies worth on a Saturday afternoon. Helped to have what was possibly the goal of the weekend going in at your end.
Millwall were at the Hawthorns too and I had the pleasure of heading up on the same train. Conversation was football, football, football. Millwall talk, Spurs talk, QPR talk. Bizarrely there was a lot of talk of the Roscommon Gaels GAA team. They didn’t realise that a Roscommon born Spurs fan was listening. Three generations of one family were present. One guy compared Spurs current situation to that of Millwall who still have yet to break the £1m signing barrier. I laughed at the time but relatively speaking it rang a tiny bell. Again it was all passion for football. Living football. I just don’t see this level at Spurs anymore. If we don’t have it back as soon as we enter the new Stadium I fear it will be lost forever.

Unless we find ourselves down in the Championship some day.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,597
88,416
Upgrade... Could do with scoping out a new operating system judging by the state of the Pochettino thread...
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,597
88,416
Spent Saturday afternoon at a cold Villa Park. Mid table Championship clash with two teams I remember being top flight regulars. Both have far more to complain about than us and our recent ‘crisis’. Yet despite that it was a great afternoon, great game, great atmosphere with singing pretty much non-stop. Villa Park looks about 25 years out of date compared to the standards now and had the top tier of the Trinity Road closed to keep the crowd compact. But it was a real footballing experience with passionate Villa fans who in the end left disappointed. It felt like an afternoon I used to have when I first started going to football. It didn’t feel as gentrified as my recent experiences of football. It’s all very well having a shiny new stadium and possession stats in your favour but you don’t need them to know you’ve got your monies worth on a Saturday afternoon. Helped to have what was possibly the goal of the weekend going in at your end.
Millwall were at the Hawthorns too and I had the pleasure of heading up on the same train. Conversation was football, football, football. Millwall talk, Spurs talk, QPR talk. Bizarrely there was a lot of talk of the Roscommon Gaels GAA team. They didn’t realise that a Roscommon born Spurs fan was listening. Three generations of one family were present. One guy compared Spurs current situation to that of Millwall who still have yet to break the £1m signing barrier. I laughed at the time but relatively speaking it rang a tiny bell. Again it was all passion for football. Living football. I just don’t see this level at Spurs anymore. If we don’t have it back as soon as we enter the new Stadium I fear it will be lost forever.

Unless we find ourselves down in the Championship some day.
There's talk of locals being offered reduced ST's for the new Plough Lane... I'm tempted tbh, a nice local football team to take the kids to.
 

cliff jones

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
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I just had a look at the sales for Cardiff. At this rate there'll be 30K there. Even with the top tier closed it'll be shit.

We've all had enough, yeah I get that, and we'll all be at Barca a few days before, but come on... it's a prem game on a Saturday afternoon with a good chance of a win...

Support the team.
 

southlondonyiddo

My eyes have seen some of the glory..
Nov 8, 2004
12,637
15,158
I just had a look at the sales for Cardiff. At this rate there'll be 30K there. Even with the top tier closed it'll be shit.

We've all had enough, yeah I get that, and we'll all be at Barca a few days before, but come on... it's a prem game on a Saturday afternoon with a good chance of a win...

Support the team.


Its not that simple these days though is it

The core fan base is about 50 years old which means we've seen 20 or 30 years plus of Tottenham through some good but mostly pretty ordinary

The game has completely changed from the one probably 90% of us grew to love

Wembley is a corporate soulless shit hole and we were told we would only have to endure 1 season there

If we were told in the beginning that it was for 2 seasons and we will split the ST over the 2 seasons and charge you a lot less 30/40% less then Cardiff would be 70-80k

Add that to the fact that we feel we've been lied to, our ST has gone up 20-40% (because its a better PRODUCT lol) and we bought the sum of sweet FA in the summer, quite honestly the club can pretty much go whistle until we go back home

Perfect storm scenario atm

Let the fucking 1882 knobheads (no offence meant ;)) support the club until then!
 

cliff jones

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
4,089
6,641
Its not that simple these days though is it

The core fan base is about 50 years old which means we've seen 20 or 30 years plus of Tottenham through some good but mostly pretty ordinary

The game has completely changed from the one probably 90% of us grew to love

Wembley is a corporate soulless shit hole and we were told we would only have to endure 1 season there

If we were told in the beginning that it was for 2 seasons and we will split the ST over the 2 seasons and charge you a lot less 30/40% less then Cardiff would be 70-80k

Add that to the fact that we feel we've been lied to, our ST has gone up 20-40% (because its a better PRODUCT lol) and we bought the sum of sweet FA in the summer, quite honestly the club can pretty much go whistle until we go back home

Perfect storm scenario atm

Let the fucking 1882 knobheads (no offence meant ;)) support the club until then!

I hate Levy for the pricing and not buying anyone but if 70K can roll up for Liverpool (even accounting for a few of them sneaking in) then surely 45K can be bothered for Cardiff. It's not even ont'elly. Hopefully we do Huddersfield and a few more get bothered. I'm not doing City though- they can shove that.
 
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