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Player Paulo Dybala

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(Sorry OT I know...) Guys the story was: Levy wanted Rafa Benitez, Baldini wanted De Boer and Lewis wanted Poch. At the end of the day, the boss won out.

This I know from COYS ITKs and I'll never forget the info because I, too, wanted Rafa, a guy I've always admired (despite the stick he gets from everyone- you know- the "Fat Spanish Waiter"-garbage...). I clearly recall that it was those three in the mix and if I'm honest Poch would've been last on my list; indeed, I was quite underwhelmed when we got him. Three months into 2015 I realized what a know-nothing fool I was and said so publicly (http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/i-was-wrong-about-poch.122471/). But yeah- Baldy wanted Benitez.

Anyway re: Dybala- I don't like it. Getting in an established star just ain't us these days. Poch makes stars-- he doesn't deal with them. I guess if the kid is 0% prima donna then fine- go for it- but do we really need another striker?

Anyway, just my onions...
No Levy wanted Van Gaal and he snubbed us for Manu and was quite vocal at the time saying he would win things at Manu
 

synththfc

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No Levy wanted Van Gaal and he snubbed us for Manu and was quite vocal at the time saying he would win things at Manu

IIRC he also did an interview recently saying that he wishes he chose us because we would've given him time to build a team in his vision
 

ardiles

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He scored roughly 1 in 2 in his first three seasons with Juve, but last season only scored 10 in 42 (not the stats of an £80m player). Anyone know what happened there?

A Portuguese peacock strutted in the yard and kicked him off his perch.
 

DaleMurphy

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obviously would love this signing but don’t see anyway it can happen without selling Eriksen or passing on Lo Celso

just the fact we have these options is huge as a spurs fan we’re really playing w the big boys now thanks Poch
 

JayB

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He's 26 this year, not exactly young.
Which means we'd be getting the best years of his career. For once, we'd be buying a genuine world class finished article with little regard for the cost. It'd be a watershed transfer for the club.
 

BedfordshireSpud

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Rather spend that sort of money on the defense and DM. Build a complete squad rather than something completely top-loaded.
We are in to the new phase of Spurs development well and truly now but a lot of Spurs fans are clinging on to the past because of past failures. You can see it in the stadium at times as well as we haven’t come to terms with our new status yet and still expect to fail at times.

Levy has told us we will spend to develop the team and to believe. Poch has stayed for the next phase. It’s going to take a couple of windows to get the balance but what a ride it will be. People on here guessing what our net spend position can be, and whether we can afford Dybala, Lo Chelsea and Eriksen are behind the curve. Time to lift our heads and believe we support a big club.
 

rambu

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(Sorry OT I know...) Guys the story was: Levy wanted Rafa Benitez, Baldini wanted De Boer and Lewis wanted Poch. At the end of the day, the boss won out.

This I know from COYS ITKs and I'll never forget the info because I, too, wanted Rafa, a guy I've always admired (despite the stick he gets from everyone- you know- the "Fat Spanish Waiter"-garbage...). I clearly recall that it was those three in the mix and if I'm honest Poch would've been last on my list; indeed, I was quite underwhelmed when we got him. Three months into 2015 I realized what a know-nothing fool I was and said so publicly (http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/i-was-wrong-about-poch.122471/). But yeah- Baldy wanted Benitez.

Anyway re: Dybala- I don't like it. Getting in an established star just ain't us these days. Poch makes stars-- he doesn't deal with them. I guess if the kid is 0% prima donna then fine- go for it- but do we really need another striker?

Anyway, just my onions...

Don’t recall seeing that much talk about Benitez at all, maybe a mention here and there but never he’s never seriously discussed in the media. Do recall a lot of news on us chasing Van Gaal and almost got him by his own admittion later, then it’s all about De Boer vs Poch after Van Gaal’s out of the picture.
 

tiger666

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Which means we'd be getting the best years of his career. For once, we'd be buying a genuine world class finished article with little regard for the cost. It'd be a watershed transfer for the club.

Indeed. I can't see it happening though.
 

Flashspur

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On reflection I am struggling with this one.

He is an electrifying player on his day but can he lead the line? Aguero comes to mind. Similar build, stocky, low center of gravity but not blessed with electrifying pace. Like Aguero he picks his runs and times them perfectly and that is his outstanding goal poaching skill. Dybala is also a strong dribbler but plays a lot deeper then Augero often picking up the ball and driving the attack from AMF. I've seen him turn out some electrifying cameos playing off a CF but Poch doesn't play that formation.

He is also really strong at crossing but he hasn't been used that much by Juve as an out and out winger, more a wing forward, until last season. I'd fancy him on the wing but again he lacks pace even though his crossing is high quality.

But really it does not surprise me why Sarri isn't that interested when he has others - Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Higuaín, Kean and then Caudrado, Costa and Bernardeschi who are WF's. Sari ball is effectively two speedy wingers and a lethal finisher at the apex of the 4-3-3. How does Dybala fit in there? I can see why they are open to selling Kean, who for all his promise looks very undisciplined at times and Dybala is the next one in the queue because he is good at nearly everything but hasn't got the physical presence and height or perhaps Augero's aggression in the last third to stand out as something special in that crowd. Plus Sarri will struggle to accommodate him in MF. Even in the twilight of their careers Ronaldo, Higuaín and Mandzukic are still formidable forwards.

Where would he slot in with us? He is not a real CF. He can play off a CF, as a WF or a false 9. He is really a No. 10. But is that what Poch wants him for? And how would you fit him into the diamond? A number 10 is the second striker and the false 9 is a mixture of both the 10 and 9 and, if we ever played one, really an advanced AM but there is a crowded field with CE, Son, Dele and Lamela all capable of playing there plus GLC and even Kane if it came to it. It all seems too hard.

He played 40 games last season with 12 subs appearances and had 8 GS and 5 Assists in that lot. He has 0.5 tackles and 89% passing rate with 1.5 key passes per game. Yes he was stuck on the wing but those numbers still show quality from one of his poorest seasons in Italy. A class act for sure but how do you fit him in plus he is 26 in November? Hardly a young up and comer and sell on value is an issue.

You’d really have to say someone like GLC offers us more flexibility and may possibly have a higher ceiling.

Maybe it will come down to dollars and pounds. If we can grab him for a bargain price. Why not? Otherwise he seems more like a luxury player requiring a formation built around him to play to his strengths rather then the other way around.

I would have thought Man City would be very interested with Augero reaching his peak years and Dybala the closest to him in style.
 

WiganSpur

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My gut feeling is that this has essentially fallen into our lap with Juve offering him around, and we're weighing up how it might affect our other plans.

By all accounts we were already willing to keep Eriksen and bring in GLC for somewhere in the region of ~60m. I could see Levy considering being willing to chuck in an extra £20m to bring in an established world class player as opposed to a rising talent who would represent something more of a gamble. Dybala could feasibly make up the difference both in terms of how much he raises the profile of the club and in terms of the the prize money that his contributions on the pitch might generate.

What I can't see is us buying both Lo Celso and Dybala and not selling Eriksen or another major asset. Surely it's either we keep Eriksen and sign one of the two, or sell Eriksen and possibly try to sign both. Basically it'd boil down to whether we seek to bolster our squad depth in the CM playmaker position, which Poch has wanted to do for years now, or forego that in favour of bolstering our attack because a one-off opportunity fell into our lap.
This is on the money imo but there’s a possibility of option 3 where we look at other players in the squad who might be expendable. This option would make sense both from squad numbers and financial perspective but might require time to generate perspective buyers.
 

walworthyid

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On reflection I am struggling with this one.

He is an electrifying player on his day but can he lead the line? Aguero comes to mind. Similar build, stocky, low center of gravity but not blessed with electrifying pace. Like Aguero he picks his runs and times them perfectly and that is his outstanding goal poaching skill. Dybala is also a strong dribbler but plays a lot deeper then Augero often picking up the ball and driving the attack from AMF. I've seen him turn out some electrifying cameos playing off a CF but Poch doesn't play that formation.

He is also really strong at crossing but he hasn't been used that much by Juve as an out and out winger, more a wing forward, until last season. I'd fancy him on the wing but again he lacks pace even though his crossing is high quality.

But really it does not surprise me why Sarri isn't that interested when he has others - Ronaldo, Mandzukic, Higuaín, Kean and then Caudrado, Costa and Bernardeschi who are WF's. Sari ball is effectively two speedy wingers and a lethal finisher at the apex of the 4-3-3. How does Dybala fit in there? I can see why they are open to selling Kean, who for all his promise looks very undisciplined at times and Dybala is the next one in the queue because he is good at nearly everything but hasn't got the physical presence and height or perhaps Augero's aggression in the last third to stand out as something special in that crowd. Plus Sarri will struggle to accommodate him in MF. Even in the twilight of their careers Ronaldo, Higuaín and Mandzukic are still formidable forwards.

Where would he slot in with us? He is not a real CF. He can play off a CF, as a WF or a false 9. He is really a No. 10. But is that what Poch wants him for? And how would you fit him into the diamond? A number 10 is the second striker and the false 9 is a mixture of both the 10 and 9 and, if we ever played one, really an advanced AM but there is a crowded field with CE, Son, Dele and Lamela all capable of playing there plus GLC and even Kane if it came to it. It all seems too hard.

He played 40 games last season with 12 subs appearances and had 8 GS and 5 Assists in that lot. He has 0.5 tackles and 89% passing rate with 1.5 key passes per game. Yes he was stuck on the wing but those numbers still show quality from one of his poorest seasons in Italy. A class act for sure but how do you fit him in plus he is 26 in November? Hardly a young up and comer and sell on value is an issue.

You’d really have to say someone like GLC offers us more flexibility and may possibly have a higher ceiling.

Maybe it will come down to dollars and pounds. If we can grab him for a bargain price. Why not? Otherwise he seems more like a luxury player requiring a formation built around him to play to his strengths rather then the other way around.

I would have thought Man City would be very interested with Augero reaching his peak years and Dybala the closest to him in style.
He is nothing like Aguero imo. Aguero is the best striker in the world in terms of pure natural talent. Only kane can compete with him because he has a more rounded game.

Dybala blows hot and cold, but he immensely talented. At the right price we would be mad not to take him.
 
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