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michaelden

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When you put it like that it's staggering isn't it? And the madness doesn't end there. Several other managers have bought him plus he's conned a few England managers into picking him 40-odd times!

I'm asking myself why more posters on SC aren't top class football managers :wink:

I know you're being being facetious but my response would be opportunity
 

DEFchenkOE

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How can you buy a striker that cannot shoot??? I could forgive the total lack of pace if he had a powerful shot but when he tries to shoot it actually just looks like a joke. Pav is not great but he is a much better option than Crouch, don't care how many knock downs he does. He should be a plan B with 15-20 mins to go. There were a few times yesterday when VDV had the ball in advanced positions and just needed a striker that could run to slip the ball through to but all he saw was Crouch.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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When you put it like that it's staggering isn't it? And the madness doesn't end there. Several other managers have bought him plus he's conned a few England managers into picking him 40-odd times!

I'm asking myself why more posters on SC aren't top class football managers :wink:

Look behind his multiple moves and you'll find that 'arry has been his manager 4 times, each of his other managers has regretted signing him and attempted to move him on within 18 months to 2 years. So at club level you can basically say that 'arry has been the only manager who has rated him.

As for being picked for England you could advance an even more convincing argument for Emily Heskey but I wouldn't want to see him in the current Spurs team. Crouch's 41 caps and Heskey's 62 caps down to the dearth of quality English strikers over the last 7-10 years, basically post Shearer England have had a crocked Owen and then Rooney. If England had been blessed with forwards during this era as they have with centre halfs it is questionable whether Crouch would have won even a single cap.
 

hans

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I thought he was unlucky yesterday, im not really a fan of his but he did get fouled quite a few times - jagielka and neville sandwiching him.
 

michaelden

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I thought he was unlucky yesterday, im not really a fan of his but he did get fouled quite a few times - jagielka and neville sandwiching him.

That I can agree with. There were 3 definite times when he was fouled in the box. But if the ref wasn't going to give him a penalty for those he was never going to give a penalty to crouch so keeping him on was a bad decision.


I had a good discussion with another Spurs fan (a 606 poster) and he reckons that since Crouch has always been a tall guy he's never learnt to jump. Cahill has a great jump, as does Cannavaro. Both these short guys learnt young to leap high & time their jumps. Crouch never needed too and thus is actually pretty ineffective in the air, something I agree with wholeheartedly.

I do not like how we play with him in the team, it is poor football. I do not think he is better than Pav or Keane (and I'm no longer a Keane fan) and would rather Krancjar played upfront than Crouch. The more I see of him the less I value him. He is too 1 dimensional and that dimension has become so ineffective its laughable he gets as many starts as he does
 

guy

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I thin kmaybe one of them was a pen, the one where neville blatantly pushed him in the back and into jagielka, the others were types of pretty standard defence plays i thought.

Why doesn't someone put Crouch on the weights for 6 weeks building some neck and thigh muscles?!?!?!?!?! He'd improve a hell of alot if he had some power.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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I thin kmaybe one of them was a pen, the one where neville blatantly pushed him in the back and into jagielka, the others were types of pretty standard defence plays i thought.

Why doesn't someone put Crouch on the weights for 6 weeks building some neck and thigh muscles?!?!?!?!?! He'd improve a hell of alot if he had some power.

The problem is that he isn't even getting those calls at home, so there is no chance that he will get those calls at Old Trafford at the weekend. I'm sure Vidic will give him just as much of a battering and he'll end up playing half of the game on the floor.

I'm sure he has probably tried to put on some muscle mass. I agree he would be a much better player if he could just hold players off.
 

guy

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my main issue is generating power with his headers.

If you're that tall and get on the end of the amount of crosses he does, a little power behind his headers and he'd get another 10 goals a season
 

sidford

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Hes a very frustrating player to watch because his touch can be absolutely terrible far too often. The saying "his second touch is a tackle" tends to apply a lot more often then it should.

He goes down far too easily, its not just a weight thing, he has a lack of fight his first instinct when being hit is fall over not stay on his feet & fight for the ball.

The argument that hes been bought bu a lot of managers so he must be good doesnt tell the whole story, his longest spell at a club has been at pool where he played for nearly 3 years but he was a sub for then, his longest spell at a club other then that is 2 years before being moved on.

man utd, chelsea, pool & city all have at least 1 top striker & crouch just doesn't live up to that & our starting striker should if we want to push on from last season
 

michaelden

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Look behind his multiple moves and you'll find that 'arry has been his manager 4 times, each of his other managers has regretted signing him and attempted to move him on within 18 months to 2 years. So at club level you can basically say that 'arry has been the only manager who has rated him.

As for being picked for England you could advance an even more convincing argument for Emily Heskey but I wouldn't want to see him in the current Spurs team. Crouch's 41 caps and Heskey's 62 caps down to the dearth of quality English strikers over the last 7-10 years, basically post Shearer England have had a crocked Owen and then Rooney. If England had been blessed with forwards during this era as they have with centre halfs it is questionable whether Crouch would have won even a single cap.

This +1
 

Maske2g

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Just watching Adebayor yesterday, he is almost as unplayable as Crouch in the air because of his spring, but he also has a skill, pace, and has scored over 20 goals in a season more than once......and he is on the bench. I'm not a big fan, but its a massive gulf in class.
 

si_yidarmy

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we should start with super pav every game until defoe returns. Defoe and vdv are awesome together on fifa 11 lol
 

Krafty

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Football365 says Crouch has hit the target three times from his nine headers in the league. While he provides useful assists, thats a crap accuracy rate for a striker, nevermind one who has such a height advantage
 

jonathanhotspur

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Just watching Adebayor yesterday, he is almost as unplayable as Crouch in the air because of his spring, but he also has a skill, pace, and has scored over 20 goals in a season more than once......and he is on the bench. I'm not a big fan, but its a massive gulf in class.

I would gladly have Adebayor here. He's as mad as a hatstand. We couldn't afford his wages but I would love to have him.
 

guy

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Football365 says Crouch has hit the target three times from his nine headers in the league. While he provides useful assists, thats a crap accuracy rate for a striker, nevermind one who has such a height advantage

And i bet the majority of them were 6 yards or less out from goal. He really has some awful awful misses with his head:bang:
 

Donki

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I think he is second in the PL list of goals from headers only behind Cahill..... yeah I was pretty surprised by that too. I think there is alot of overly harsh coments on here about him ending up on his arse, Id say Pav spends more time sprawled out on in arse. I didn't know there were so much managerial talant on this forum!!
 

michaelden

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I think he is second in the PL list of goals from headers only behind Cahill..... yeah I was pretty surprised by that too. I think there is alot of overly harsh coments on here about him ending up on his arse, Id say Pav spends more time sprawled out on in arse. I didn't know there were so much managerial talant on this forum!!

how about goals overall or goals per minute played
 

Dwallace

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Look behind his multiple moves and you'll find that 'arry has been his manager 4 times, each of his other managers has regretted signing him and attempted to move him on within 18 months to 2 years. So at club level you can basically say that 'arry has been the only manager who has rated him.

As for being picked for England you could advance an even more convincing argument for Emily Heskey but I wouldn't want to see him in the current Spurs team. Crouch's 41 caps and Heskey's 62 caps down to the dearth of quality English strikers over the last 7-10 years, basically post Shearer England have had a crocked Owen and then Rooney. If England had been blessed with forwards during this era as they have with centre halfs it is questionable whether Crouch would have won even a single cap.

:clap:WOW we actually have a spurs fan with good footballing knowledge and a good footballing brain. Be careful though mate that can get you into a lot of trouble on this forum.:wink: Anyway your spot on to cut a long story short he isn’t good enough and he should never ever of been a spurs player. All these comments about his England caps and scoring record is laughable. Before people bleat on about his fantastic scoring record for England look at the teams he has scored against 3 goals against the footballing giants of Jamica spring to mind.

The only manager who rates this guy his arry the rest of the managers who bought him couldn't get rid of him quick enough. He is a player than you bring on in games in the last 5-10 minutes to get you a goal when all else has failed. Not a player you lump balls up to when you have squad packed full of good technical players that are capable imo of competing with any side in the premiership when it comes to playing football. It saddens me that we play football the way we do when he is in he side. Tbh I don't see Arsenal with Chamakh and Chelsea with Drogba playing ugly long balls to their CF's. It's exactly the reason why I never wanted Arry or Crouchie in the first place. We look like an old school English prehistoric football side ala Wimbeldon or Bolton if we didn't have good players I might understand it but we do it’s a tragedy.
 
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