PLAYER WATCH: Benjamin Stambouli

[Matthew Wyatt]

We were playing against the equivalent of a league one team in a friendly. Why as fans do we hype players up of the back of games that mean nothing?

The bloke us average with no pace...sell him.

In rejecting him after one game at CB you're as guilty as those you decry. Let's give him a go against top opposition in that role and see what happens.

As for being too short? shouldn't really be a problem, football isn't about long balls into the box so much, and anyhow Fazio is a giant but never seems to clear any high balls coming into our box

True, with Fazio being a sort of Crouch in reverse.

He's taller than Fabio Cannavaro though.

Seems Cannavaro is actually two inches shorter than Stambouli so your point is well made. I had no idea one of the best ever CBs was just 5'9''.

 

[ILS]

In rejecting him after one game at CB you're as guilty as those you decry. Let's give him a go against top opposition in that role and see what happens.


True, with Fazio being a sort of Crouch in reverse.


Seems Cannavaro is actually two inches shorter than Stambouli so your point is well made. I had no idea one of the best ever CBs was just 5'9''.

He Is slower then Fazio so why would you want him playing centre half playing the high line? Luckily he will be sold shortly si we will never haven't take the chance.

By they way Capoue apparently could play centre half and was utter tripe!

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

In rejecting him after one game at CB you're as guilty as those you decry. Let's give him a go against top opposition in that role and see what happens.

You would rather give Stambouli a go at CB, than Dier, Vertonghen, Fazio, or Wimmer? Seems rather daft. Or do you suggest holding onto him as an emergency 5th CB?

I don't know whether he can make a go of it as a CB, but I'd rather he try it elsewhere.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

Perhaps it's just wishful thinking on my part because I don't much rate him as a midfielder.

 

[EastLondonYid]

I think I read somewhere someone quoting stats which shows him to be one of the top defensive headers of the ball in the EPL?

Really? well from where i sit it tells a different story.

 

[ILS]

The only stat that tells the real story is the top goalscorer one. The assist one is another pointless stat. You can scuff the ball aimed at another player, end up at someone else feet by accident who sticks it in the back of the net from thirty yards and you would get an assist.

I can also tell Fazio isn't all that in the air just by watching him every week.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

We were playing against the equivalent of a league one team in a friendly. Why as fans do we hype players up of the back of games that mean nothing?

The bloke us average with no pace...sell him.

And here is where you're clearly confused. Literally nobody has hyped the guy up. All that people have done is praise a performance, which is what supporters are supposed to do, no?

Also, you say "on the back of games that mean nothing", but I ask you, who do they mean nothing to? You? Not everybody is like you, and I'm willing to bet that most of our players are certainly not like you.

The game may well have meant nothing in your eyes, but for the likes of the supporters who got to that stadium yesterday, the game meant the world to them, because it's probably the only chance those supporters will have to watch the team they've chosen to support.

Then we come to the players themselves, the very guys you 'appear' to not think supporters should be praising after performing well. How often has Stambouli had a chance to show what he can do? How often have the likes of Carroll, Winks and Yedlin had a chance to show what they can do? What is meaningless in your eyes, could mean the world to others.

Saying "it was Just Sydney FC" or "it was a meaningless game" etc etc, is a very narrowminded way of looking at it. Generally, the picture is significantly bigger than what our eyes allow us to see COYS

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

The only stat that tells the real story is the top goalscorer one. The assist one is another pointless stat. You can scuff the ball aimed at another player, end up at someone else feet by accident who sticks it in the back of the net from thirty yards and you would get an assist.

I can also tell Fazio isn't all that in the air just by watching him every week.

That post is a contradiction within itself. A guy can scuff a ball aimed at another player, so his stats don't count, yet a striker can scuff a cross into the bottom corner, but that's just fine? Seems perfectly reasonable

And how can assists possibly not matter/count? I'm yet to see a striker achieve a single thing in football without having a team to provide him the ball to stick in the back of the net

 

[Strikeb4ck]

We were playing against the equivalent of a league one team in a friendly. Why as fans do we hype players up of the back of games that mean nothing?

The bloke us average with no pace...sell him.

Because we all watched him shut down Rooney (when he was in great form) single handedly.

He's a good player who didn't really get his shot. Played at least OK, and often pretty well, every time he was included.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

The bloke us average with no pace...sell him.

Chadli was called average last season. Spurs fans never learn.

 

[ILS]

Chadli was called average last season. Spurs fans never learn.

Well some fans not myself may still deem him average.

 

[ILS]

That post is a contradiction within itself. A guy can scuff a ball aimed at another player, so his stats don't count, yet a striker can scuff a cross into the bottom corner, but that's just fine? Seems perfectly reasonable

And how can assists possibly not matter/count? I'm yet to see a striker achieve a single thing in football without having a team to provide him the ball to stick in the back of the net

Because we all watched him shut down Rooney (when he was in great form) single handedly.

He's a good player who didn't really get his shot. Played at least OK, and often pretty well, every time he was included.[/QUOTE

And here is where you're clearly confused. Literally nobody has hyped the guy up. All that people have done is praise a performance, which is what supporters are supposed to do, no?

Also, you say "on the back of games that mean nothing", but I ask you, who do they mean nothing to? You? Not everybody is like you, and I'm willing to bet that most of our players are certainly not like you.

The game may well have meant nothing in your eyes, but for the likes of the supporters who got to that stadium yesterday, the game meant the world to them, because it's probably the only chance those supporters will have to watch the team they've chosen to support.

Then we come to the players themselves, the very guys you 'appear' to not think supporters should be praising after performing well. How often has Stambouli had a chance to show what he can do? How often have the likes of Carroll, Winks and Yedlin had a chance to show what they can do? What is meaningless in your eyes, could mean the world to others.

Saying "it was Just Sydney FC" or "it was a meaningless game" etc etc, is a very narrowminded way of looking at it. Generally, the picture is significantly bigger than what our eyes allow us to see COYS

Nobody remember the pre season under Ramos? You always the same from the experts...friendlies are never the same asthenia real thing even moreso when you are being hyped up..because you arecmarking Shane Smelz!

 

[ILS]

Nobody remember the pre season under Ramos? You always the same from the experts...friendlies are never the same asthenia real thing even moreso when you are being hyped up..because you arecmarking Shane Smelz!

I hate predictive texthe
... should of read the real thing

 

[ILS]

Because we all watched him shut down Rooney (when he was in great form) single handedly.

He's a good player who didn't really get his shot. Played at least OK, and often pretty well, every time he was included.

Gary Doherty had a good game once against Sunderland way! As for he never got his shot.. because clearly he isn't good enough and the manager agrees with my assessment.

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Gary Doherty had a good game once against Sunderland way! As for he never got his shot.. because clearly he isn't good enough and the manager agrees with my assessment.

I think it's rather sad that you're so desperate for a player (that has done well) to do poorly just so you are proven right on a forum.

Harry Kane wasn't picked as a starter for the first third of the season. Was the manager's assessment right then, too?

 

[Phn3Xta5]

hearing people say stambouli is average makes me laugh hysterically. the guy is clearly above average with his positional awareness, willingness to go into a tackle, and desire to go forward and get the attacks rolling. he also has very good leadership qualities. some fans seem to think a player is average if they arent perfect at every aspect of the game. lol. stambo imo is a mixture of dembele and sandro. and realistically i couldnt ask for anything more than that from a defensive midfielder.who cares about pace when you have positional awareness?

 

[ILS]

I think it's rather sad that you're so desperate for a player (that has done well) to do poorly just so you are proven right on a forum.

Harry Kane wasn't picked as a starter for the first third of the season. Was the manager's assessment right then, too?

Your first statement is garbage. I don't want ever to say a spurs player is not good enough and I have been proved wrong before but having watched him in my opinion he is average and was still not getting a game when Mason's levels had dropped.

If he is not getting a game in his preferred role why should we keep him as a fifth choice centre half of the back of one friendly against not a very good side when players like Cameron vickers are coming through?

We have bought far too many bang average players over thickest two seasons and stambouli is one of those.

 

[ILS]

hearing people say stambouli is average makes me laugh hysterically. the guy is clearly above average with his positional awareness, willingness to go into a tackle, and desire to go forward and get the attacks rolling. he also has very good leadership qualities. some fans seem to think a player is average if they arent perfect at every aspect of the game. lol. stambo imo is a mixture of dembele and sandro. and realistically i couldnt ask for anything more than that from a defensive midfielder.who cares about pace when you have positional awareness?

So if he has everything you have described why is he behind mason in the pecking order even when he has played shit? I remind everyone of all the Capoue loving this time last season and he has more of the attributes of what you described then stambouli.

 

[Japhet]

So if he has everything you have described why is he behind mason in the pecking order even when he has played shit? I remind everyone of all the Capoue loving this time last season and he has more of the attributes of what you described then stambouli.

You've asked the question that thousands of Spurs fans would like to know the answer to. You can't judge Stambouli for what he didn't do on the pitch though or jump to any conclusions about him being better or worse than anybody else based on what you never saw.

 

[ILS]

You've asked the question that thousands of Spurs fans would like to know the answer to. You can't judge Stambouli for what he didn't do on the pitch though or jump to any conclusions about him being better or worse than anybody else based on what you never saw.

Let's make it clear apart from bentaleb our holding midfielder options are not great...I would sell paulinho, stambo and Capoue as they have all turned out to be average signings that do not fit the way Poch wants to play. My prediction will be Mason will be the next one to be slaughtered next season on these boards not that I will agree with it.