Eric Dier

[ardiles]

He may not be first choice when all are fit but he is still an important cog in our squad mainly because of his versatility, as he can play as emergency CB, DM or RB.

We also need a player like him when we face opponents that we need to put a stamp on (literally or figuratively ).

 

[ardiles]

There’s that and how immobile he is

Actually I think his passing is pretty sharp - possibly superior to Winks - but Dier’s skill level and mobility is pretty low for a CM

He plays for Lazio. Not sure if we’re in for him though.

 

[Giovanni]

Just to re-cap here on what i think many are saying regarding dier (well me at least)
He is a player who i see as a good squad player but not one who should play as a certainty. I simply dont think dier is the type of person to be happy with a squad player status which is what i think most people see him as in the coming future. This may lead HIM to wanting to move on therefore poch and levy may see and opportunity to cash in on a player who would fetch circa 30m.

I like many others see a big gap in the mf for a quality cm to step in (rabiot or whoever) and with that comes less playing time for a current cm. Winks and sissoko are for sure the number 1 pair as it stands and whilst that still leaves room for dier (as a dm in games more needing of one) he would surely drop down the pecking order with a new addition. Especially with eriksen, son, alli, kane to fit into the team.

 

[wrd]

Just to re-cap here on what i think many are saying regarding dier (well me at least)
He is a player who i see as a good squad player but not one who should play as a certainty. I simply dont think dier is the type of person to be happy with a squad player status which is what i think most people see him as in the coming future. This may lead HIM to wanting to move on therefore poch and levy may see and opportunity to cash in on a player who would fetch circa 30m.

I like many others see a big gap in the mf for a quality cm to step in (rabiot or whoever) and with that comes less playing time for a current cm. Winks and sissoko are for sure the number 1 pair as it stands and whilst that still leaves room for dier (as a dm in games more needing of one) he would surely drop down the pecking order with a new addition. Especially with eriksen, son, alli, kane to fit into the team.

Yeah it's not about us wanting him to leave, it's that realistically we all said midfield needs to improve, logically speaking that puts him on the bench and it's likely he might not be content with that but I'd love to keep him in the rotation but if we want to move forward I doubt he's going to be the midfielder playing 40-50 games as he has every season so far.

 

[belsunz]

If he had only played midfield all his career then i'd agree. But if Toby is going, it makes very little sense to let Dier go too. I think he has a role to play as his natural replacement.

I may be in the minority here believing in his qualities as a defensive midfielder. I actually think he's not good enough as a central defender. Slow on the turn and too error-prone... Surely not in Toby's class.

 

[WiganSpur]

I may be in the minority here believing in his qualities as a defensive midfielder. I actually think he's not good enough as a central defender. Slow on the turn and too error-prone... Surely not in Toby's class.

A few years back now, 14-15 I think. When we first signed him by the end of that season he'd cemented a spot at CB alongside Jan and looked quality. He's never really been given a real run of games there since. When we signed Toby a year later many questioned the need for him and were worried it would hamper Dier's development. It obviously turns out the former observation was wrong but I wouldn't be too sure about the latter in the end.

I think Poch could work wonders with him again in defence. I'd be confident with him as a CB option.

 

[ButchCassidy]

The CB point is moot unless he's had a change of heart and decided he wants to play there. He's clearly Premier League quality as a midfielder, so if he can't play his way into our team, he'll have no shortage of options elsewhere. Personally I think he's an option Poch loves having, and he'll get plenty of time, especially if Wanyama is going to have recurring injury problems going forward.

 

[Flashspur]

Stupid debate people. We need every CM option we have at the moment. Dier is as good if not better then the other affordable options out there. We certainly aren’t going to grab a worldie to replace him, are we?

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

We've got a player, he is one of few at the club at his position, he is trusted by the manager, he has several years left of his career, he is English, he already knows very well the present system, he has showed up before in matches where others gave up, he is fluid on the pitch but in a different way than what's usually meant by fluidity.

oh, I know what to do with that. Let's sell him.

 

[Gbspurs]

It amazes me how almost everytime a player is out for a period people start talking about selling them.

If Dier didn't play for us he would be exactly the sort of player we would be wanting to add to our squad.

Granted he hasn't had the best season but footballers aren't machines. Lets give him a chance to get back to his best.

 

[MJN1981]

Somebody said £30m he’s worth a lot more than that surely at his age. I still think he will end up as a CB. Poch will win that battle I think and educate him that he's better off there and for me he would work well in a 3

 

[spursfan77]

A few years back now, 14-15 I think. When we first signed him by the end of that season he'd cemented a spot at CB alongside Jan and looked quality. He's never really been given a real run of games there since. When we signed Toby a year later many questioned the need for him and were worried it would hamper Dier's development. It obviously turns out the former observation was wrong but I wouldn't be too sure about the latter in the end.

I think Poch could work wonders with him again in defence. I'd be confident with him as a CB option.

Yep. I thought he was great on the right hand side of a back three. The player didn’t want to play in defence anymore though I think. But after Toby goes in the summer we could well push him back there again on occasion.

 

[mil1lion]

Not wanting to play at the back doesn't really make sense given that he drops back into a 3 in defensive midfield anyway. I actually see him as the ideal replacement for Toby if he leaves. In a back 3 you still can bring the ball out at times and he can also ping those long diagonal balls that Toby does. With Foyth as a long term replacement for Jan as well we'll be pretty well covered at the back.

It just seems to me that Poch is starting to prefer Winks in the central midfield role. Maybe because he moves the ball quicker from there. I also fancy Skipp will grow into a suitable alternative in that role sooner rather than later.

 

[samsonlevi]

Let’s see if he rises to the challenge of our other CMs. He strikes me as the type to step up. If he doesn’t and wants to go, then he can go.

But based on the little bit of insight and knowledge we have, it’s well too early to be talking to sell him.

 

[WiganSpur]

Not wanting to play at the back doesn't really make sense given that he drops back into a 3 in defensive midfield anyway. I actually see him as the ideal replacement for Toby if he leaves. In a back 3 you still can bring the ball out at times and he can also ping those long diagonal balls that Toby does. With Foyth as a long term replacement for Jan as well we'll be pretty well covered at the back.

It just seems to me that Poch is starting to prefer Winks in the central midfield role. Maybe because he moves the ball quicker from there. I also fancy Skipp will grow into a suitable alternative in that role sooner rather than later.

Generally, I think our football flows better with Winks instead of Dier. There were some really turgid team performances at the start of the season with Dier in CM, although it was made worse by Poch bizarrely utilising him on the right side of a diamond midfield. He's poor at pressing and also beating a press because of his lack of agility. In all honesty i've never rated him there, he just lacks the dynamism plain and simple. It'd be the same if you put Toby or Jan in there, it's just a different position.

The only time i've seen him play particularly poorly at CB was when he was asked to play on the left side for a few games a couple of years ago now, and that's to be expected a bit for a right footer who's slightly less confident on the ball than say Foyth.

 

[LeParisien]

Hip flexor but what’s the real deal ?

 

[worcestersauce]

Hip flexor but what’s the real deal ?

Do you not think its that then?

 

[SpartanSpur]

Hardly missed a game in the first two years but has had a disaster of a year. 4 games with a thigh strain, Appendectomy over Xmas causing him to miss a further 9 and now this hip flexor with which he's missed 4 and counting. Awful luck.

 

[LeParisien]

Do you not think its that then?

It’s rare to have a player miss most of a season because of three plus distinct injuries. Very unlucky or is there something else going on ??

 

[SpartanSpur]

It’s rare to have a player miss most of a season because of three plus distinct injuries. Very unlucky or is there something else going on ??

I considered this but I think the fact one of the 'injuries' was an appendectomy suggests just bad luck.