Eric Dier

[BigVic]

Need a scapegoat now that it appears Sissoko is on his way out...

He's been poor for ages though, nothing to do with being a scapegoat, if you cant see that then you're blind.

 

[SdB]

He has been underperforming for a while now.

Agree, I thought he was a revelation when he first went in as a DM and England caps soon followed.

Now he seems to just saunter around midfield, hardly gets in decent tackles, doesn't close down quick enough and so many times just lets attacking midfielders go past him.

 

[SandroClegane]

He's been poor for ages though, nothing to do with being a scapegoat, if you cant see that then you're blind.

ah, there it is, the old "if you don't agree with my opinion you're blind".

Sure he hasn't done much to stand out but he does the little things every match. Positioning, blocks, tackles, all while keeping the ball moving and tracking back. He doesn't have a glamorous role, but we just held United without a goal at Old Trafford so he's doing something right.

 

[HildoSpur]

He was terrible. A total passenger. He really needs to up his game, he played like he wasn't even trying. Strolling around, very passive.

Dier doesn't have the outstanding technical ability of some other CMs which means he can afford to be lazy. If he isn't putting in 110% off the ball, he's basically useless.

I really hope he improves, as I said in match thread, he is the clear and outstanding candidate in the side we should be looking to upgrade. A proper top CDM or Wanyama back in form, in place of Dier, would make us much stronger.

Dier must improve, because as it stands right now, he isn't very good.

Incredibly harsh - he does an important job for the team and he does it well.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

He's been poor for ages though, nothing to do with being a scapegoat, if you cant see that then you're blind.

I am blind, yet I can see....

Dier is an intelligent thinking man's midfielder. He is similar to Carrick.

Like Carrick he will continue to divide opinion. For me he is an automatic starter.

Positioning, reading of the game, closing spaces, he is excellent at this and just because he doesn't run round like a headless chicken people say he is a cb.

He is also very good at distributing the ball.

 

[BigVic]

I am blind, yet I can see....

Dier is an intelligent thinking man's midfielder. He is similar to Carrick.

Like Carrick he will continue to divide opinion. For me he is an automatic starter.

Positioning, reading of the game, closing spaces, he is excellent at this and just because he doesn't run round like a headless chicken people say he is a cb.

He is also very good at distributing the ball.

He is nothing like Carrick, what a silly comparison.

 

[waresy]

I dont think it is a silly comparison. With Carrick loads of people questioned what he added to the side up until the point he signed for utd and then people realised what he did offer when he wasnt there.

I'm not for a minute suggesting Dier is of the same ability but he is a player that read the game everso well and seems to take a fair bit of stick. Whether that is justified or not I havent watched him close enough to say

 

[Johnny J]

Need a scapegoat now that it appears Sissoko is on his way out...

Definitely seems to be whats happening.

This isn't fair. Imo Dier didnt have a particularly noteworthy first two games, but I thought he had a particularly bad game last night. Nothing more or less than that. Watching him watching the ball pass by him countless times was infuriating. We may as well have had a proper CM who can help the attack, because he did nothing for the defence.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

If you watch the Lukaku chance, Rose does underhit the back pass but he really shouldn’t of even had the ball. We win it back it gets popped into Dier who’s got more than enough space to turn on it and get us moving up the field but he gives a hospital pass straight back to rose. Hes either not aware of what’s around him or he’s not confident receiving the ball back to goal. Probably one from the result of the other and it happens quite a few times a game. He also hides behind players and lets people get the wrong side of him and even at CB he lets people run off the back of him too easy, maybe that’s through a lack of dynamism. want to like him as a player because he seems a nice lad, but I find him frustrating to watch especially in possession.

 

[coys200]

I said in the ratings thread, I think a very good guide is could you see him being linked with Madrid. Over half our team you realistically could. But the truth is they wouldn’t go anywhere near Dier, surely that tells you everything you need to know. Honestly I love the guy but as a CDM he’s just not top draw. Could he be as a CB possibly. I’d always want him in my squad. But there’s probably a dozen better CDM in Europe than him.

 

[dtxspurs]

I said in the ratings thread, I think a very good guide is could you see him being linked with Madrid. Over half our team you realistically could. But the truth is they wouldn’t go anywhere near Dier, surely that tells you everything you need to know. Honestly I love the guy but as a CDM he’s just not top draw. Could he be as a CB possibly. I’d always want him in my squad. But there’s probably a dozen better CDM in Europe than him.

So if Madrid doesn't want a player of ours that means they aren't good enough? They didn't want Toby or Jan, or Lloris, or Son, Lucas, Dele, Tripps, Rose, really anyone other than Kane & Eriksen.

 

[bat-chain]

Played in a 0-3 win at Man Utd and a 1-3 win at Chelsea, can’t be that bad!

 

[Shadydan]

I said in the ratings thread, I think a very good guide is could you see him being linked with Madrid. Over half our team you realistically could. But the truth is they wouldn’t go anywhere near Dier, surely that tells you everything you need to know. Honestly I love the guy but as a CDM he’s just not top draw. Could he be as a CB possibly. I’d always want him in my squad. But there’s probably a dozen better CDM in Europe than him.

That's a very strange way of looking at things

He was linked with Bayern a couple of years ago according to Bild they were interested in him and of course Utd wanted him before they bought Matic.

 

[whitesocks]

Utd were up for it and frantic. They had 5 in midfield too, whereas we put an extra man up front.
It meant Utd controlled the game and we had to by-pass midfield.
Better players than Dier couldn't settle into their normal game either - like Eriksen.

But we really have to put aside any thought that his long term future is a CB though. He has poor acceleration and for the size of him, he is beaten in the air too easily. He can tackle though to be fair and his distribution is very good.

We have one of the best defensive units in the league, so Dier is clearly doing something right as a midfielder.

 

[tooey]

It's all about opinions but I just don't think he's played that well for a while. People will point to him doing the underappreciated things well but I just can't agree, he has a strange habit of not pressing the ball and also letting runners go beyond him so he just stands in space pointing to other players when he'd probably be the best positioned to press. He has a good range of passing but is also prone to lapses in concentration. He's by no means a bad player but I still expect more from a player entering his peak years who should know the system as good as anyone. I'm by no means advocating him being sold or anything that drastic but he needs to take his game up another level if he doesn't want to be upgraded on.

 

[spids]

I think Poch values Dier way more than most of us. He is his ‘on pitch Lieutenant’ and if Lloris lost the capataincy would be a serious rival to Kane for it. Whilst his athleticism could be better, his positioning is very good and his distribution underrated.

 

[coys200]

So if Madrid doesn't want a player of ours that means they aren't good enough? They didn't want Toby or Jan, or Lloris, or Son, Lucas, Dele, Tripps, Rose, really anyone other than Kane & Eriksen.

I’m saying if you could see them realistically linked. If Toby jan Lloris Son dele were linked you wouldn’t be surprised. Dier you would.

 

[dtxspurs]

I’m saying if you could see them realistically linked. If Toby jan Lloris Son dele were linked you wouldn’t be surprised. Dier you would.

Well they never have so I don't understand what your point is. As someone posted above he had been linked with Bayern and ManU in the past.

 

[SdB]

I am blind, yet I can see....

Dier is an intelligent thinking man's midfielder. He is similar to Carrick.

Like Carrick he will continue to divide opinion. For me he is an automatic starter.

Positioning, reading of the game, closing spaces, he is excellent at this and just because he doesn't run round like a headless chicken people say he is a cb.

He is also very good at distributing the ball.

Did Carrick divide opinion? I must of missed that.
Pure class.

 

[vAs]

He is not a bad player, but he is definitely super overrated on SC. If we want to win titles we need world class CM and let's be honest, he is never going to be world class at that position, because he is just not a natural midfielder.