Player Watch: Erik Lamela

[rossdapep]

Is it all possible that he is one of those players who can't focus and play through any niggling injuries? You often hear of athletes who play through the pain and can mentally block out how the injury effects their performance. Perhaps Lamela is the sort who is unable to do this and is fragile in that respect, which is causing frustration as the coaches know that he can play through it if he was mentally strong enough.

I used to play with a lad who would often cry off before full time claiming that a previous injury was still bugging him yet everyone could see that he could continue playing if he could push past it. Most of the injury was in his head.

 

[Lemon]

Lamela evokes some very powerful thoughts in me.

Luke Shaw, was Pochs golden boy at Southampton, now seemingly a perma-croc. Instead of looking what excessive intensity training/playing (potentially) does to joint/muscle/tissue, he is instead questioned in his psychology. My feeling is he trained to a level beyond that which his body could maintain, to please Poch, this led to deficiencies which hamper recovery IMO.

Lamela was Pochs 'extension of his own attitude on the pitch', leading the press. Now instead of applauding that drive and reflecting that just maybe this same dynamic is at play here with Spurs, no, lets instead say it's Lamelas poor psychological mindset.

Previously I've tried to explain about metabolic residues but nobody seems interested in that as it undermines Pochs philosophy.

I understand Hercules is ITK, but I believe I know better than the clubs collective mindset on this topic (as it's basis is in denying a problem which is clear to see IMO).

 

[lukespurs7]

Hip injuries are very complicated and also if you add to that a drug problem it's hard to see him coming back

 

[dagraham]

Lamela evokes some very powerful thoughts in me.

Luke Shaw, was Pochs golden boy at Southampton, now seemingly a perma-croc. Instead of looking what excessive intensity training/playing (potentially) does to joint/muscle/tissue, he is instead questioned in his psychology. My feeling is he trained to a level beyond that which his body could maintain, to please Poch, this led to deficiencies which hamper recovery IMO.

Lamela was Pochs 'extension of his own attitude on the pitch', leading the press. Now instead of applauding that drive and reflecting that just maybe this same dynamic is at play here with Spurs, no, lets instead say it's Lamelas poor psychological mindset.

Previously I've tried to explain about metabolic residues but nobody seems interested in that as it undermines Pochs philosophy.

I understand Hercules is ITK, but I believe I know better than the clubs collective mindset on this topic (as it's basis is in denying a problem which is clear to see IMO).

Except for the fact that in Lamela's first season (before Poch was even here) he missed a lot of games through what was later described by Sherwood as a mystery back/hip injury.

 

[Lemon]

Is it all possible that he is one of those players who can't focus and play through any niggling injuries? You often hear of athletes who play through the pain and can mentally block out how the injury effects their performance. Perhaps Lamela is the sort who is unable to do this and is fragile in that respect, which is causing frustration as the coaches know that he can play through it if he was mentally strong enough.

I used to play with a lad who would often cry off before full time claiming that a previous injury was still bugging him yet everyone could see that he could continue playing if he could push past it. Most of the injury was in his head.

Good post Ross.

This is exactly where the issue lies IMO.

When you saturate certain metabolic pathways, like lymph nodes, your HPA axis may stop you producing much/any cortisol (etc), try to assist recover you from this problem. Now what do we think might happen if your autonomic nervous system is trying to hold you in 'rest and recovery' when your entire working life is geared to 'fight or flight' (bring the intensity).

Anyway, I understand this doesn't go anywhere...

 

[Lemon]

Except for the fact that in Lamela's first season (before Poch was even here) he missed a lot of games through what was later described by Sherwood as a mystery back/hip injury.

Just shows there was a predisposition to being negatively effected by high intensity training/playing IMO.

 

[Lemon]

Doubters

 

[Jimmypearce7]

He's very important to us, hope he is back soon.

I dreamed the other night that he scored a hat trick in our next match, which we won 5-1.

Obviously that has no significance whatsoever but i thought i would share it with you...

 

[dudu]

Lamela evokes some very powerful thoughts in me.

Luke Shaw, was Pochs golden boy at Southampton, now seemingly a perma-croc. Instead of looking what excessive intensity training/playing (potentially) does to joint/muscle/tissue, he is instead questioned in his psychology. My feeling is he trained to a level beyond that which his body could maintain, to please Poch, this led to deficiencies which hamper recovery IMO.

Lamela was Pochs 'extension of his own attitude on the pitch', leading the press. Now instead of applauding that drive and reflecting that just maybe this same dynamic is at play here with Spurs, no, lets instead say it's Lamelas poor psychological mindset.

Previously I've tried to explain about metabolic residues but nobody seems interested in that as it undermines Pochs philosophy.

I understand Hercules is ITK, but I believe I know better than the clubs collective mindset on this topic (as it's basis is in denying a problem which is clear to see IMO).

Even if what your saying is correct it only appears to affect a very low percentage of Pochs players.

Poor mindset or not, if he isn't physically capable of playing under Poch and fulfilling what is demanded of him then I'm not sure what the answer is?

 

[neptunes]

I have a feeling that if Tottenham did'nt believe he had an absolute chance of coming back he'd be already toast. Something tells me that we'll see him on the pitch by January 18.

 

[Lemon]

Even if what your saying is correct it only appears to affect a very low percentage of Pochs players.

Poor mindset or not, if he isn't physically capable of playing under Poch and fulfilling what is demanded of him then I'm not sure what the answer is?

Acknowledging the issue, would you not want Messi because he can't train intensely? Exaggerating to demonstrate a point. That maybe scaling expectation based on bio feedback may allow both worlds to exist together.

You never know, Harry might be able to score in August to

 

[dagraham]

I have a feeling that if Tottenham did'nt believe he had an absolute chance of coming back he'd be already toast. Something tells me that we'll see him on the pitch by January 18.

In what way? He's under contract, we won't offer him a new one ( understandably) and no club would be daft enough to buy him until he's proved his fitness anyway.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Tom Allnutt‏@tomallnuttPA 8h
#thfc say quotes coming from Argentina re Lamela are incorrect, that player is in latter stages of rehab.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

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Tottenham expect Lamela to be back in contention by the end of the year

 

[Cravenspurs]

Doubters

My favorite parts of these clips are his challenges and how he creates goals through his work rate. I truly hope he can make it back and put in the same effort.

@lukespurs7 stop with the rumor mill BS of drug use. The last thread was shut down because of speculators that have no idea what is happening in his life.

 

[dagraham]

Standard Sport‏Verified account@standardsport 2h2 hours ago
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Tottenham expect Lamela to be back in contention by the end of the year

As I and others were saying during the transfer window, we are one injury to Eriksen away from being totally and utterly fucked.

 

[ziggy]

Watching that video you remember just what he brings to the team, really hope he's back very soon

 

[southlondonyiddo]

The good thing is if it's anything related to MPD when he does finally come back it will feel like at least 2 new signings!

 

[talkshowhost86]

Even if what your saying is correct it only appears to affect a very low percentage of Pochs players.

Poor mindset or not, if he isn't physically capable of playing under Poch and fulfilling what is demanded of him then I'm not sure what the answer is?

Sell him to West Ham.

At a massive profit.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

For the second (or third) time.........If people are going to persist with this drug stuff then they'll be banned or the thread will be locked. But banned is my personal favourite and therefore most likely, so please can we stop it with all of that now?