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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

mattie g

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Great, so he's going to be asking for paternity leave now then?!?!




(I'm joking obviously. I actually think the pathetic amount of paternity leave men are allowed to take in England is scandalous).

You get paternity leave?
 

rambu

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Lamela and his missus are expecting their first child.

I give it approximately 3 additional posts within this thread before it's somehow played a part in his injury / "drug addiction."

Almost 9 hours since this post and we are still missing a very important point...congrets coco
 

mattie g

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Who doesn't?

2 weeks on full pay as well as time for appointments as long as you've been employed for at least six months.

Is that standard? Much better than over here, where it’s employer-specific, with many companies not having any paternity ( or maternity) leave.

Modern society really needs to make sure that new parents get the time they need.

On topic: Cograts to Lamela and the little lady!
 

yankspurs

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Is that standard? Much better than over here, where it’s employer-specific, with many companies not having any paternity ( or maternity) leave.

Modern society really needs to make sure that new parents get the time they need.

On topic: Cograts to Lamela and the little lady!
In the US? It depends on which state you're in for now as Trump wants a federal family leave law. I believe theres a law in NJ and California currently. In NY, they are instituting a family leave benefit where you'll get 50% of state average for 8 next year, and 2/3 of state average for 12 by 2022, which has been my entire life for the last 11 months and I absolutely hate it. Just the letters PFL gives me nightmares:mad:
 

Bobbins

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Is that standard? Much better than over here, where it’s employer-specific, with many companies not having any paternity ( or maternity) leave.

Modern society really needs to make sure that new parents get the time they need.

On topic: Cograts to Lamela and the little lady!

Yeah, that's statutory for all employers in the UK, subject to a very small number of exceptions.

Maternity leave is thus:

Statutory Maternity Leave
Eligible employees can take up to 52 weeks’ maternity leave. The first 26 weeks is known as ‘Ordinary Maternity Leave’, the last 26 weeks as ‘Additional Maternity Leave’.

Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP)
SMP for eligible employees can be paid for up to 39 weeks, usually as follows:

  • the first 6 weeks: 90% of their average weekly earnings (AWE) before tax
  • the remaining 33 weeks: £140.98 or 90% of their AWE (whichever is lower)

In the UK you also get up to 1140 hours of free childcare a year, per child, for children aged 3-4 if you're in work (or half that if you're not working). You can use that how you like (spread over the year or taken in shorter, larger chunks or whatever). It works out as 30 hours per week if taken over 38 weeks which seems to be the standard way of doing it.

You in the States? Employment law and working conditions over there are absolutely in the dark ages, they really are. Most of this stuff has been around in some form in the UK for years, though the Liberal Democrats made huge improvements when they were in coalition with the Tories in recent years.
 

guiltyparty

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Sep 21, 2005
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Is that standard? Much better than over here, where it’s employer-specific, with many companies not having any paternity ( or maternity) leave.

Modern society really needs to make sure that new parents get the time they need.

On topic: Cograts to Lamela and the little lady!

Yep I recently took it. I added two weeks hols on and made it an even month
 

guiltyparty

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Yeah, that's statutory for all employers in the UK, subject to a very small number of exceptions.

Maternity leave is thus:



In the UK you also get up to 1140 hours of free childcare a year, per child, for children aged 3-4 if you're in work (or half that if you're not working). You can use that how you like (spread over the year or taken in shorter, larger chunks or whatever). It works out as 30 hours per week if taken over 38 weeks which seems to be the standard way of doing it.

You in the States? Employment law and working conditions over there are absolutely in the dark ages, they really are. Most of this stuff has been around in some form in the UK for years, though the Liberal Democrats made huge improvements when they were in coalition with the Tories in recent years.

Could be wrong but aren’t a lot of our lovely employment rights because of the EU? Pretty sure Brexit is going to be cataclysmic for new parents (well, everyone, but while we’re on topic...)
 

Bobbins

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Could be wrong but aren’t a lot of our lovely employment rights because of the EU? Pretty sure Brexit is going to be cataclysmic for new parents (well, everyone, but while we’re on topic...)

Definitely some - the Lib Dem’s have expanded on what was already there but over the last couple of decades every country has made progress in this area. The EU introduced the Parental Leave Directive but most EU countries already had legislation in place. As with a lot of EU law, it’s a minimum standard safeguard, rather than an overbearing legislative burden.

In fact, only three countries in the world don’t have some form of mandatory parental leave - Papua New Guinea, Lesotho and the United States.

I think post-Brexit the initial plan from a lot of Tories was/is to repeal vast swathes of employment legal protections and rip workers rights away from them as much as they can get away with. However, I don’t think this will actually happen in the end - post the Leave result it seems lots of Leave voters have decided thaybwhilst they want to leave the EU, they do still want to keep most of the good stuff they got from the relationship - especially when they get told this good stuff and realise it came from the EU all along. The Tories will want to take that away but I think they’ll find they just can’t get away with it like they want to - the nation is already on the verge of voting them out and they’ll not want to risk losing their tiny grip on power to bad headlines.

Apart from that, I think it’s generally accepted by even the most arch capitalist (outside America) that parental leave is a fundamental part of a civilised society and is extremely important in child development (every indicator proves it) - any attempt to take it away will be met by mass abandonment at the ballot box, as let’s be honest it effects huge numbers of people.
 

scat1620

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Coyboy

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Yeah, that's statutory for all employers in the UK, subject to a very small number of exceptions.

Maternity leave is thus:



In the UK you also get up to 1140 hours of free childcare a year, per child, for children aged 3-4 if you're in work (or half that if you're not working). You can use that how you like (spread over the year or taken in shorter, larger chunks or whatever). It works out as 30 hours per week if taken over 38 weeks which seems to be the standard way of doing it.

You in the States? Employment law and working conditions over there are absolutely in the dark ages, they really are. Most of this stuff has been around in some form in the UK for years, though the Liberal Democrats made huge improvements when they were in coalition with the Tories in recent years.

You mean like introducing ET fees and increasing the unfair dismissal qualifying period to 2 years?
 

Coyboy

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Is that standard? Much better than over here, where it’s employer-specific, with many companies not having any paternity ( or maternity) leave.

Modern society really needs to make sure that new parents get the time they need.

On topic: Cograts to Lamela and the little lady!

You can now share parental leave with the mother, meaning that the father can take longer off or the mother can go back to work while the father stays off. Many big employers offer full pay for at least some of that period as well.
 

Fancypants

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Mar 9, 2005
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Ha ha, I thought there was new stuff in here on Lamela... How wrong could I be!?

On topic - I took 10 months ha, losers Compared to Sweden you're all in the dark ages when it comes to Parental Leave we're so cool it's not even gender specific (disclaimer - I'm not a Swede, just lived here for 16 years)
 

Teemu

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Jan 12, 2006
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Everyone who thinks Lamela's been in rehab for the last 9 months, stop being so ridiculous.

He's just been pregnant.
 
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