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agrdavidsfan

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Yes,

He didn't play well yesterday but he was the only player that when we did look dangerous that was responsible for creating it.

Eriksen was awful so was Alli

And dont get me started on golden boy son you could have thrown a bag of cement at him yesterday and it would still have bounced off him he was absolutely dreadful but in fairness he looked knackered from the warm up onwards.

All mentioned above were a lot worse than Erik yesterday. Me and my mate actually started playing hide and seek with eriksen every time he would pop up after 20 minutes of anonymity we were shouting PEEP OH.

People's agenda with lamela I actually believe is down to they don't understand what kind of player he is.

They still see him as bale's replacement when he's a totally different player. He's a creative winger more of a wide playmaker he's not an out on our winger who's going to fly passed people doing mazy dribbling runs he relies on clever movement from his teammates which at the moment we don't have, poch for some reason has also decided to put him and eriksen on their favoured foot sides. Lamela has always played on the right and cut in he doesn't have the pace to Go down the outside on the left so he's checking back all the time and eventually losing the ball.

It's just getting boring having scapegoats all the time why do we as fans have to look for someone to blame when the whole team has an off day?

Over the years it's been jeans,ghaly,lamela,Paulinho,soldado

Why can't we just accept the other team has it tactically spot on and poch fucked up. Instead of aiming vile hatred at one player who If you actually watch the game again was the probably the better one of our front players. I'm half tempted to be honest to do analysis on it all with a video just to show lamela wasn't as bad as the others but yet he seems to be the one that's having all sorts thrown at him.

Even people directly tweeting him calling him all sorts.
 

piedpiper

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Yes,

He didn't play well yesterday but he was the only player that when we did look dangerous that was responsible for creating it.

Eriksen was awful so was Alli

And dont get me started on golden boy son you could have thrown a bag of cement at him yesterday and it would still have bounced off him he was absolutely dreadful but in fairness he looked knackered from the warm up onwards.

All mentioned above were a lot worse than Erik yesterday. Me and my mate actually started playing hide and seek with eriksen every time he would pop up after 20 minutes of anonymity we were shouting PEEP OH.

People's agenda with lamela I actually believe is down to they don't understand what kind of player he is.

They still see him as bale's replacement when he's a totally different player. He's a creative winger more of a wide playmaker he's not an out on our winger who's going to fly passed people doing mazy dribbling runs he relies on clever movement from his teammates which at the moment we don't have, poch for some reason has also decided to put him and eriksen on their favoured foot sides. Lamela has always played on the right and cut in he doesn't have the pace to Go down the outside on the left so he's checking back all the time and eventually losing the ball.

It's just getting boring having scapegoats all the time why do we as fans have to look for someone to blame when the whole team has an off day?

Over the years it's been jeans,ghaly,lamela,Paulinho,soldado

Why can't we just accept the other team has it tactically spot on and poch fucked up. Instead of aiming vile hatred at one player who If you actually watch the game again was the probably the better one of our front players. I'm half tempted to be honest to do analysis on it all with a video just to show lamela wasn't as bad as the others but yet he seems to be the one that's having all sorts thrown at him.

Even people directly tweeting him calling him all sorts.

You have a serious man crush. Get yourself checked.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Yes,

He didn't play well yesterday but he was the only player that when we did look dangerous that was responsible for creating it.

Eriksen was awful so was Alli

And dont get me started on golden boy son you could have thrown a bag of cement at him yesterday and it would still have bounced off him he was absolutely dreadful but in fairness he looked knackered from the warm up onwards.

All mentioned above were a lot worse than Erik yesterday. Me and my mate actually started playing hide and seek with eriksen every time he would pop up after 20 minutes of anonymity we were shouting PEEP OH.

People's agenda with lamela I actually believe is down to they don't understand what kind of player he is.

They still see him as bale's replacement when he's a totally different player. He's a creative winger more of a wide playmaker he's not an out on our winger who's going to fly passed people doing mazy dribbling runs he relies on clever movement from his teammates which at the moment we don't have, poch for some reason has also decided to put him and eriksen on their favoured foot sides. Lamela has always played on the right and cut in he doesn't have the pace to Go down the outside on the left so he's checking back all the time and eventually losing the ball.

It's just getting boring having scapegoats all the time why do we as fans have to look for someone to blame when the whole team has an off day?

Over the years it's been jeans,ghaly,lamela,Paulinho,soldado

Why can't we just accept the other team has it tactically spot on and poch fucked up. Instead of aiming vile hatred at one player who If you actually watch the game again was the probably the better one of our front players. I'm half tempted to be honest to do analysis on it all with a video just to show lamela wasn't as bad as the others but yet he seems to be the one that's having all sorts thrown at him.

Even people directly tweeting him calling him all sorts.

Spot on summarisation of the ridiculous agenda certain fans have against Lamela.

The funny thing is the fans I hear criticising Lamela seem to not have a bad word to say against the new golden boy of English football Dele Alli, when he has been in worse form out of the two this season.
 

dontsalebale

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Spot on summarisation of the ridiculous agenda certain fans have against Lamela.

The funny thing is the fans I hear criticising Lamela seem to not have a bad word to say against the new golden boy of English football Dele Alli, when he has been in worse form out of the two this season.
I am pretty anti stats. But to get an objective viewpoint according to who scored wonderboy is Tottenhams 13th ranked player. And who would have thought it below the aforementioned deli and Eriksen
 
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kaz Hirai

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Yes,

He didn't play well yesterday but he was the only player that when we did look dangerous that was responsible for creating it.

Eriksen was awful so was Alli

And dont get me started on golden boy son you could have thrown a bag of cement at him yesterday and it would still have bounced off him he was absolutely dreadful but in fairness he looked knackered from the warm up onwards.

All mentioned above were a lot worse than Erik yesterday. Me and my mate actually started playing hide and seek with eriksen every time he would pop up after 20 minutes of anonymity we were shouting PEEP OH.

People's agenda with lamela I actually believe is down to they don't understand what kind of player he is.

They still see him as bale's replacement when he's a totally different player. He's a creative winger more of a wide playmaker he's not an out on our winger who's going to fly passed people doing mazy dribbling runs he relies on clever movement from his teammates which at the moment we don't have, poch for some reason has also decided to put him and eriksen on their favoured foot sides. Lamela has always played on the right and cut in he doesn't have the pace to Go down the outside on the left so he's checking back all the time and eventually losing the ball.

It's just getting boring having scapegoats all the time why do we as fans have to look for someone to blame when the whole team has an off day?

Over the years it's been jeans,ghaly,lamela,Paulinho,soldado

Why can't we just accept the other team has it tactically spot on and poch fucked up. Instead of aiming vile hatred at one player who If you actually watch the game again was the probably the better one of our front players. I'm half tempted to be honest to do analysis on it all with a video just to show lamela wasn't as bad as the others but yet he seems to be the one that's having all sorts thrown at him.

Even people directly tweeting him calling him all sorts.


Fair and reasonable response.

It is quite amusing, when we don't win another 10 pages are added to this thread.
If Sissoko, Janssen, Son, eriksen and alli were awesome and cutting the opposition apart and it was just Lamela not pulling his weight then I could understand it.

Perhaps really the haters just recognise the high levels of quality he has so get extra frustrated that he doesn't win us games singlehandedly so it's a weird compliment in a way ;)
 

Monkey boy

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There doesn't seem to be any middle ground when it comes to Lamela. The haters probably go overboard with the criticism and the fan boys really over egg the decent things that he does.
 

jonathanhotspur

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Spot on summarisation of the ridiculous agenda certain fans have against Lamela.

The funny thing is the fans I hear criticising Lamela seem to not have a bad word to say against the new golden boy of English football Dele Alli, when he has been in worse form out of the two this season.
Have to put my hand up here. I thought Lamela was crap yesterday but I also very vexed with Dele Alli, who very much deserved to be withdrawn - to teach him a lesson, as much as anything. He will be a superstar, yes, but he has to stop the clowning around pronto.
 

Hercules

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Have to put my hand up here. I thought Lamela was crap yesterday but I also very vexed with Dele Alli, who very much deserved to be withdrawn - to teach him a lesson, as much as anything. He will be a superstar, yes, but he has to stop the clowning around pronto.
Poch to blame as the whole final third system was wrong. Dele is s No.10. Eriksen, Dele, Lamela and Son. Something had to give, and it gave by Dele's performance (out of position) and Eriksen continuing his latest unconsistency. Factor that in with Lamela below par, what do we expect? For the records, I like him and want him to excel on last season, as he has loads of talent. Lately there are no excuses that him and Eriksen has not been doing it. Dele on the other hand, though not hit the heights of last season is still producing goals and assists. Please let us accept that by throwing out Lamela's assist records. We need to see more from him.
 
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jonathanhotspur

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Poch to blame as the whole final third system was wrong. Dele is s No.10. Eriksen, Dele, Lamela and Son. Something had to give, and it gave by Dele's performance (out of position) and Eriksen continuing his latest unconsistency. Factor that in witgvLamela below par, what do we expect? For the records, I like him and want him to excel on last season, as he has loads of talent. Lately there are no excuses that him and Eriksen has not been doing it. Dele on the other hand, though not hit the heights of last season is still producing goals and assists. Please let us accept that by throwing out Lamela's assist records. We need to see more from him.
Alli is not clinical enough. He has said it himself, as has Pochettino.

I didn't like the blend of attacking players yesterday. Too stodgy. All of them are better than they are showing. If you take on board Pochettino's comment that we are lacking in depth, it seems to me to suggest that we do not have enough quality to threaten the places of underperforming players, of which we have a few.
 

Hercules

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Alli is not clinical enough. He has said it himself, as has Pochettino.

I didn't like the blend of attacking players yesterday. Too stodgy. All of them are better than they are showing. If you take on board Pochettino's comment that we are lacking in depth, it seems to me to suggest that we do not have enough quality to threaten the places of underperforming players, of which we have a few.
And to that in Poch's thread I said, he had all summer to address that.
 

Hercules

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I could not agree more. If our players are too "samey" (and they are a bit), then what the fuck were we doing all summer?
Exactly. Whilst I love the guy he has his flaws. As Etch said, 'As a manager you have to make sure you have your wits and get the players you want'. It was very clear for the majority of us to see that our squad needed a dynamic midfield creative and offensive goal/assist threat, with pace player. We also needed couple strikers, and one needing to have the pace and ability to open up teams. I am not against Janssen signing, but said at the time if he was the only striker coming in with what he offered I was against. We still needed to add another.
 

jonathanhotspur

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Exactly. Whilst I love the guy he has his flaws. As Etch said, 'As a manager you have to make sure you have your wits and get the players you want'. It was very clear for the majority of us to see that our squad needed a dynamic midfield creative and offensive goal/assist threat, with pace player. We also needed couple strikers, and one needing to have the pace and ability to open up teams. I am not against Janssen signing, but said at the time if he was the only striker coming in with what he offered I was against. We still needed to add another.
I see you said somewhere that you have Dutch friends who warned you that signing Janssen was a mistake. Why was that?
 

Hercules

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I see you said somewhere that you have Dutch friends who warned you that signing Janssen was a mistake. Why was that?
They watched him every week. There opinion was he has absolutely no pace, great with back to goal. Has no skill to beat a man one on one, and will not get away from anybody. In Holland he bullied, and defensive discipline is abysmal over there. When I found out we were keen I then started watch his games to see for myself, and was not at all impressed. That is what I am seeing now.

For a club in Top 4 aiming to go the next level, we cannot be making key signings with majority of our budget to carry them whilst they bed in.
 

dontsalebale

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Exactly. Whilst I love the guy he has his flaws. As Etch said, 'As a manager you have to make sure you have your wits and get the players you want'. It was very clear for the majority of us to see that our squad needed a dynamic midfield creative and offensive goal/assist threat, with pace player. We also needed couple strikers, and one needing to have the pace and ability to open up teams. I am not against Janssen signing, but said at the time if he was the only striker coming in with what he offered I was against. We still needed to add another.
I think Poch has to bear a lot of the responsibility. Eric for all his determination and grit has been on a downward curve and should have been benched for longer after Monaco. Poch is doing him no favours as his form is tragic at the moment
 

jonathanhotspur

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They watched him every week. There opinion was he has absolutely no pace, great with back to goal. Has no skill to beat a man one on one, and will not get away from anybody. In Holland he bullied, and defensive discipline is abysmal over there. When I found out we were keen I then started watch his games to see for myself, and was not at all impressed. That is what I am seeing now.
Fucking hell..
 

piedpiper

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Don't consider myself a hater. Support all our players. However i wouldn't lose sleep if he were sold. Great work rate etc. Loses the ball a bit. I would like a player with more attacking threat/ pace playing in his position. A Saido Mane type of player actually.
 
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