tiger666
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Man City. Lamela was down to take penalties. Son was in the wrong.
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Man City. Lamela was down to take penalties. Son was in the wrong.
He took the ball out of Sons hand though,didnt he?. Has he played since the incident?
tiger666
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ITK said Lamela was the assigned taker. That's all I know.
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4 times since starting 3.
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No lamela had the ball and son tried to get it off him, lamela can't be blamed for that. If anything son was a bit petulant there.
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Slightly abusing a stats there, Lamela scored 5 in the league last season, with 9 assists in 34 games. His other 6 goals came against Monaco, Fiorentima and Quarabag. In the league Eriksen scored only once more in the league but assisted 13 times in 35 games. Dele score 10 goals and assisted 9 times in 33 games.
My argument being that Lamela gave us a decent output but still only fractionally better than 1 goal involvement every 2.5 games. The other two produced something better than once every 2 games. You can't even argue that Lamela's role is the least likely to get him into the final third as the other two both spend considerable more time dropping into deeper midfield positions, especially Eriksen.
My frustration with Lamela is that with his natural skill, his great work ethic and his obvious physical gifts he should also be a 1 in 2 player. That he isn't makes him the easiest AM to improve on. By further comparison, Son had 3 assists and 6 goals in 17 appearances this season, Dele has 10 goals and 1 assist in 19 games, Eriksen has 5 goals and 7 assists in 19 games. When Lamela is fit again he'll need have a task to get ahead of any of those, right now he's probably ahead of Sissoko and Nkoudou but that's it.
For what it's worth, I've long felt that with the right training, his combative style, technique and forward thinking approach could see him reconfigured to compete with Dembele at CM.
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Lamela had the ball and was walking over to the spot when Son tried to take the ball off him then Rose comes in to talk to Son who has already walked away.
Why are we going over this again. And ITK does say Lamela was down to take the pen.
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Lamela and Son both out for petulance. Neither are good enough anyway.
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Apologies, I had accidentally looked at 'games started' not appearances, but that only makes a minor difference to the big picture in this case.
If you're going to discount Lamela's EL goals, for the reason that they were against weak opponents, my counter is:
Lamela scored 6 in 8 EL appearances
Alli scored 0 in 9 EL appearances
Eriksen scored 1 in 7 EL appearances
If Lamela only scored so many EL goals because the opposition were weak, why was the productivity of Eriksen and Alli comparatively so poor against the same opposition?
It's not like Monaco and Fiorentina are 'Mickey Mouse' teams.
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He played for a few more weeks, then got injured. The penalty incident was early October, his injury was late October.
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If lamela had sons pace he would be some player. If son had Lamelas mental fortitude and consistency of performance then likewise.
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I certainly wouldn't say Lamela is our most key player (or amongst the most vital few), but I really don't think any one player is key to our team performing well. As long as most of our starting XI is available, we are capable of being a real force.
We might be on a great run without him right now, but the winning streak started five weeks after Lamela's injury, so I don;lt see any correlation between the two. Immediately after Lamela's injury, which coincided with Kane's return, we actually only managed to win one of the following six matches (in all competitions). This suggests that neither Lamela's absence nor Kane's return was responsible for our improved form. I would say our team has simply started performing better and that Lamela will be strongly in contention for games as soon as he shows he is capable of playing well enough. (Equally, I laughed at the idea of Vertonghen weakening our defence when he came back in for Wimmer at the end of last season...our team simply stopped performing).
Also, we dominated Man City with Lamela in the team but no Kane or Alderweireld.
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We missed Toby more than anyone. We're much more solid and coherent when he's in the team.
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He played in plenty of games when we weren't playing well too
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I don't get people's criticism of son or lamela, u look at our squad and our best 11, they're both clearly role or supporting players and for Tottenham to have such quality in the squad is fantastic and should be seen as good things to come. Especially when imo both son and lamela have another level to their games.
People saying his time is nearly up with us?!?! What on earth am I reading! I honestly think some of you are far too spoilt, we would be lucky to get a squad player who commits himself as much as Erik does to the cause in this day and age of football and money.
Appreciate what you have the kids been out for the past few months, Didn't hear any talk of his time nearly being up then, but he's missed a load of games and all of a sudden become shit and useless to our needs?
Get a grip some of you.
Appreciate what you have the kids been out for the past few months, Didn't hear any talk of his time nearly being up then, but he's missed a load of games and all of a sudden become shit and useless to our needs?
Get a grip some of you.
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For someone who quotes other posters as funny you don't half come out with some gems
So Spurs is on a good run and Lamela and Marcus Edwards are not part of that run so it shows we do not need them at all. In fact we do not need to buy anymore quality players so long as we have the current first 11 or so players.
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