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This is fair enough although my expectations are tempered nowadays because as we've seen before it doesn't take much to turn a player's head especially if they get an offer from the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I would be disappointed if he left any time soon but for me it wouldn't be unexpected.
This is sadly true, the thing is though, Kane is a local boy, supports Spurs etc.

People compare this to Bale but Bale was never attached to the club, he wasn't going to be sticking around it was wishful thinking at best, with Harry I genuinely believe he is above the money and above the "celebrity" of Madrid, he seems a real genuine lad.

Maybe the truth is, I am deluding myself into thinking that and like you say, once a club like Madrid or Barca come knocking it's only a matter of time, the thing is though, if a player like Kane who loves the club, was born local and came up through the ranks can have their head turned then anybody can quite frankly.

If it happens it happens, nothing we can do about it I suppose but I really will be done with football in general after that, Kane is a once in a lifetime type of player imo.
 

Lilbaz

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This is sadly true, the thing is though, Kane is a local boy, supports Spurs etc.

People compare this to Bale but Bale was never attached to the club, he wasn't going to be sticking around it was wishful thinking at best, with Harry I genuinely believe he is above the money and above the "celebrity" of Madrid, he seems a real genuine lad.

Maybe the truth is, I am deluding myself into thinking that and like you say, once a club like Madrid or Barca come knocking it's only a matter of time, the thing is though, if a player like Kane who loves the club, was born local and came up through the ranks can have their head turned then anybody can quite frankly.

If it happens it happens, nothing we can do about it I suppose but I really will be done with football in general after that, Kane is a once in a lifetime type of player imo.

People think that players wanting to leave to join bigger clubs is a new thing. Bobby Moore wanted to leave west ham and join spurs but was blocked. The only difference now is the bosman ruling and the fact that the bigger clubs are so much bigger these days.

Hope we start winning trophies and he spends the rest of his career with us though.
 

KILLA_SIN

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See, it's posts like this that set me off. No one's worrying, are they? They're just stating an opinion. I don't see the inevitability of Kane leaving as a worry, actually reflects very well on the club that we're constantly having Real cherry picking our talent. Beats United.

And there isn't a very high possibility he will stay forever. Just because he says what needs to be said in interviews, as the model pro we know he is, affects the likelihood of him leaving not a jot.

Name me any major player with his talent that has seen out their career at any one club?

Giggs - was at the club that won everything, in England and Europe, so had no need to leave. Same goes for Terry (spit). Even Gerrard won the Champions League at Liverpool.

Le Tissier - an incredibly talented player on his day but also lazy as hell, the perfect big fish in a small pond who could turn up when he fancied. He didn't have the potential that Kane does as he didn't want it as much, didn't have the drive.

Shearer - had already won the Premier League at the big bucks outfit at the time before going back to his childhood team. Not the same. Was almost like Sheringham returning to us after his United days.

I can't think of any others, happy to be proven wrong. Fact is, we have to challenge for the big honours or he'll leave, because he's that good, and it depends how realistic/pragmatic you are whether you think that will likely happen at Spurs within his career timeframe.

"Ambition" only lasts for so long when your players are as good as ours are now.

Chill out chap
 

Guntz

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Make no mistakes about it, he'll go to Madrid or Barca if he hasn't won anything with us in 5 or so years. You couldn't blame him if he did too, we have to keep getting better every year to be competitive.

It's all well and good being a local lad, but at the end of the day Kane is a highly ambitious player and will only stick around if we're competing for trophies.
As long as we keep improving year after year though as we are now, I can't see him leaving anytime soon.
 

StanSpur

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If Harry leaves us in the next 4 years then I will be done with modern football, if even a player and person like him is incapable of ignoring the call of corrupt clubs like Madrid then the game has truly gone off a cliffs edge.

I never expected Harry to stay for life, that would be unreasonable, if he moved to another club in his late 20's then I wouldn't be shocked but I genuinely believe that Harry is a good person and think he would be prouder to lead this spurs team to glory than any other team in the world.

The only circumstance I can see him leaving us for would be if he feels this club is no longer going in the right direction, if he starts feeling like he is carrying this team completely or that Levy and co aren't really trying to aim to be the best club in the world then I think he will be off.

Just my opinion, for now though, it's just all media bullshit as far as I am concerned.

To be fair Modric and Bale went to Madrid as they wanted to win cups, leagues and the champions league and Madrid were in a position to do that - Spurs weren't. Harry will have ambitions and unless we continue to improve at a fast rate then he will know soon enough if we have the ability to match his ambitions. Its not a modern football issue. Greaves went to Milan, Keegan to Hamburg, Charles and Rush went to Juve, Gazza to Lazio, Platt to Bari, Souness and Francis to Sampdoria, Hughes and Lineker to Barca, Owen, Woodgate, Becks, McManaman to Madrid, Hoddle to Monaco and Waddle to Marseille. Players have always gone to where they will get paid or as in the cases for all the above, all went to clubs to win stuff. Harry is entitled to do the same if he cant do it here. I'd rather he went to Madrid than Manchester that is for sure!
 

StanSpur

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This is sadly true, the thing is though, Kane is a local boy, supports Spurs etc.

People compare this to Bale but Bale was never attached to the club, he wasn't going to be sticking around it was wishful thinking at best, with Harry I genuinely believe he is above the money and above the "celebrity" of Madrid, he seems a real genuine lad.

Maybe the truth is, I am deluding myself into thinking that and like you say, once a club like Madrid or Barca come knocking it's only a matter of time, the thing is though, if a player like Kane who loves the club, was born local and came up through the ranks can have their head turned then anybody can quite frankly.

If it happens it happens, nothing we can do about it I suppose but I really will be done with football in general after that, Kane is a once in a lifetime type of player imo.

See Rush, Keegan, Owen, McManaman, Beckham, Hoddle - all left clubs they loved. It happens
 

dontcallme

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Make no mistakes about it, he'll go to Madrid or Barca if he hasn't won anything with us in 5 or so years. You couldn't blame him if he did too, we have to keep getting better every year to be competitive.

It's all well and good being a local lad, but at the end of the day Kane is a highly ambitious player and will only stick around if we're competing for trophies.
As long as we keep improving year after year though as we are now, I can't see him leaving anytime soon.

Last time we won a trophy we lost our strikeforce. Simply winning trophies is not enough to keep away the likes of Real and Barcelona.
 

ERO

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Yes it is. Unless you know Kane personally and very close, and I bet most of us don't. You don't know which arguments are decisive or true to him. You don't know exactly what he cares about, and more to the point, have no idea what he will care about in the future, because chances are neither does Kane. I don't think he will leave over the next season or two, but to state that one categorically knows the truth about the question is folly.
We have direct quotes regarding it. Unless you know Kane personally and very close, you have no reason to say he is lying.

Believing direct quotes is not in anyway similar to your outlandish analogy.
 

NinjaTuna

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We're so lucky that Kane is a grounded lad, not flashy at all. With all these articles going round about how good he is, I'd expect a more egotistical player to have his head turned by it all. Not Harry though
 

glospur

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I do take him at his word. That while we're moving forward and not stagnating, evolving, he'll be here. We can't move much more forward without winning something - we finished 2nd - so that by it's nature means winning something.

However, that's one interview. He also says about playing abroad:

"I would never say no or yes. You'd not rule out anything. It's not something I definitely want to do, but you never rule anything out. I'm very happy here (at Tottenham), but we'll see what happens."

So it's slightly more nuanced than that. Let's not cherry pick quotes in isolation. All it says about me is that I like to take a more balanced view than just going with a line that replicates what I want to happen.

Find me a player who's left and you'll also usually find an interview where they see they're never leaving. Bale, Campbell, whoever.

Throw in the fact of Wembley, transition to another new ground, potential for Toby, Rose, Dier and others to leave, that it's realistic to think Pochettino could be poached within the next few years too going on typical manager timelines, it's entirely understandable to think we may have a season where we fall off. And then we won't be moving forward.

It really is just logical thinking. It's far more of a leap to suggest he'll stay. Which is why it would be so oh-my-god amazing if he did – it would defy logic. Which is why it's such a talking point. It doesn't become a talking point because some people on a forum discuss it.
Your post I quoted was bemoaning people who were using 'mental gymnastics' to convince themselves he was staying in the period before that quote when he'd never said anything like that previously. In fact, prior to what he said yesterday he'd regularly said he wanted to stay at Sours for the rest of his career. How does it take mental gymnastics to take him at his word when he says that? You're actually contradicting yourself by implying that we should take this hesitation as gospel yet dismiss his previous statements as appeasement of the fans.

And it's really not logical thinking. You're forming conclusions based entirely on supposition and future events that haven't happened. It's not a foregone conclusion as you're claiming; there are far too many variables to come.
 

isaac94

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Harry is far too good for England, know one else is even near his wave length, can be frustrating to watch. Makes you lucky to think Spurs have great players like Eriksen to link with him.
 

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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Harry is far too good for England, know one else is even near his wave length, can be frustrating to watch. Makes you lucky to think Spurs have great players like Eriksen to link with him.

Tbf that's England's main problem - we don't produce intelligent number 10 Eriksen/DeBruyne types. Who are creative, technically excellent and can dictate play. We'll struggle whoever is in charge if we never produce these kind of players
 

Lilbaz

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Tbf that's England's main problem - we don't produce intelligent number 10 Eriksen/DeBruyne types. Who are creative, technically excellent and can dictate play. We'll struggle whoever is in charge if we never produce these kind of players

Was really hoping that winks would get minutes as i think he could help out in creativity.
 

fortworthspur

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just enjoy it while it lasts. no point in fretting about something that hasnt happened and we have no control over.
 
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