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Sandros Shiny Head

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If we made it to the final, Harry would 100% be on the bench. By then he'd be more than fit enough to come on for penalties even if he can't actually play. It's not like he'd be keeping anyone else out of the squad
 

SteveH

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Based on ? It’s a grade 2 tear exactly like last time. He will be fit for final and England.

Two such injuries so close together may just may need surgery. According to my physio who is heavy into sports injuries. But is a Chelsea fan so as tell her she knows bugger all;)
She said the next two weeks are important so ?
 

dimiSpur

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Are you reading what we've said/are saying?

Not a single person has suggested dropping Kane. How can we drop what isn't/won't be playing?

What we're discussing is the conundrum about throwing him straight back into the starting line-up, if his return happens to coincide with either the semi or the final, should we get there.
So if he's fit, and yet not playing, so dropped.

Unless you're suggesting he's not fit, in that sense, in which case he's not returned from injury.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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So if he's fit, and yet not playing, so dropped.

Unless you're suggesting he's not fit, in that sense, in which case he's not returned from injury.


Dimi, buddy, you've totally lost me.

We were simply discussing whether (the currently injured) Kane should be instantly put into the starting line-up of he's declared match fit in the days leading up to the semi, or the final should we get there.

And much of the discussion was based upon previous results achieved while he wasn't playing, and then the downturn in results (and performances) when he was immediately reintroduced to the team when he regained fitness.
 

dimiSpur

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Dimi, buddy, you've totally lost me.

We were simply discussing whether (the currently injured) Kane should be instantly put into the starting line-up of he's declared match fit in the days leading up to the semi, or the final should we get there.

And much of the discussion was based upon previous results achieved while he wasn't playing, and then the downturn in results (and performances) when he was immediately reintroduced to the team when he regained fitness.
Yes, I've understood all the above. My question, in light of all that, is whether you're suggesting dropping Harry.

No one is ever dropped for no reason at all, the above seem to me, to be reasons why you'd drop Harry should he regain fitness.

I don't understand what's confused you.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Yes, I've understood all the above. My question, in light of all that, is whether you're suggesting dropping Harry.

No one is ever dropped for no reason at all, the above seem to me, to be reasons why you'd drop Harry should he regain fitness.

I don't understand what's confused you.


What's confused me, is the fact that nobody has suggested (or talked about) 'dropping' Kane.

The boys won without him on Wednesday. If we win games in the next few weeks, they'll have been won without him. Should he not be fit for the semi, and we're lucky enough to progress, it'll be done without him.

Just like all the wins we achieved without him during his last spell out of the team.

When he was instantly brought straight back into the starting line-up, the results disappeared, along with our safe league position.

Our discussion has been about whether he should just be put straight back into the team if he happens to regain fitness just before the semi, or the final should we get there.

Do you think he should be?
 

dimiSpur

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What's confused me, is the fact that nobody has suggested (or talked about) 'dropping' Kane.

The boys won without him on Wednesday. If we win games in the next few weeks, they'll have been won without him. Should he not be fit for the semi, and we're lucky enough to progress, it'll be done without him.

Just like all the wins we achieved without him during his last spell out of the team.

When he was instantly brought straight back into the starting line-up, the results disappeared, along with our safe league position.

Our discussion has been about whether he should just be put straight back into the team if he happens to regain fitness just before the semi, or the final should we get there.

Do you think he should be?
That's not the issue here, this whole argument began because you stated what you did, and I asked "so you mean dropping Kane?" and you got all confused.

As to the merits of the argument itself, I accept that the team has seen some good results in Harry's absence. However, what I would say is that Harry is our talisman, our leader, one of us. He also happens to be the best striker in the world. So no, I wouldn't consider dropping him, he should return as soon as he's fit.

Additionally, I think we forget how in the games he missed in January/February, we weren't particularly great. We won those games through sheer determination, not through scintillating performances (note Fulham away for an example). We also effectively lost the match the other night, and despite scoring when he went off in the first leg, we were noticeably better when he was on the field.

So in conclusion, no. We expect and/or want our players to be loyal when bigger clubs come calling, yet you suggest dropping Harry, something I don't think he'd take too well.
 

Spurger King

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If Kane is fit, he plays. If we seem to play better without him at times (which we do), that's for Pochettino and his coaching team to analyse and address.

Kane is one of the best players on the planet, so any questions about how we play should begin with a fully fit Kane being in the team.
 

Shadydan

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There's a narrative that Spurs play better without Kane that's been going around since last season when he got injured at Bournemouth. I actually think it's half true, I think we look better more aesthetically pleasing on the eye and less predictable but I think we are overall stronger with Kane.
 

Deggsy56

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There's a narrative that Spurs play better without Kane that's been going around since last season when he got injured at Bournemouth. I actually think it's half true, I think we look better more aesthetically pleasing on the eye and less predictable but I think we are overall stronger with Kane.

Son certainly plays better without Kane in the side. Haven't we won all games without him??
 

Mr Pink

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I think a lot of it is to do with Son. When Harry isn't playing Son assumes the responsibility of being our main goal threat and its like he's playing with more freedom, and those who link with him appear to as well, we look more fluid in attack - at times, I emphasise.

When Harry plays I think the clear objective is to find him as much as possible.

I think it's something we could work on to be honest as Kane is absolutely quality at playing incisive passes and is first name on our team sheet when 100% fit.

Kane is one of the very best in world football, I just wish we could give him more of a breather as sometimes it's obvious he isn't playing with complete match fitness, or it takes him a while to get to that level of match fitness - which is another factor in all this
 

SteveH

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If Kane is fit, he plays. If we seem to play better without him at times (which we do), that's for Pochettino and his coaching team to analyse and address.

Kane is one of the best players on the planet, so any questions about how we play should begin with a fully fit Kane being in the team.

I know! And and @coopsieyid said, "He should be dropped!"
What is the world coming to? I need a lie-down.
 
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