Harry Kane

[E17yid]

lol make up your mind, he's either affecting matches or he isn't.

Anyway I'll leave the amateur psycology and body language expertise down to you, seems like you're enjoying your new hobby.

What you on about, blud?

He’s clearly effecting matches (as I pointed out to you) but he’s clearly not in his best form.

Now, repeat that back to me.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Form is where you simply can't get your touch and it's not working for you. Harry is noticeably less involved since his injury. Less mobility, less haraunging of defenders, less running into the channels or coming short to get the ball. His touch is heavy. He's currently playing like a traditonal target man, back to defenders type centre forward.

Still getting goals of course, but not the player who bosses defences at the moment. I'd prefer him to have the summer off tbh.

 

[E17yid]

ok

What kind of things do you think form effects, then.

 

[onthetwo]

i was saying at half time (after the 'fresh-air' attempt towards the end of the first half) that his form has been so consistent since he broke into the team that i felt we lacked a contingency plan for him losing form....then he smashes in a worldy!

 

[E17yid]

This is pretty simple.

If you think he’s actually physically not fit or half fit or whatever you’re effectively saying Poch and the med team are liars and don’t give a fuck about his wellbeing. You’re also saying Levy doesn’t give a fuck about a qtr of a billion pound asset.

If you’re saying he’s not match fit you’re saying that knowing he’s played 4 or 5 full games since his injury and when you consider he was only out for a couple of weeks that s doesn’t stack up.

Or you can take a more sensible opinion that, for whatever reason, whether it be pychological, a bit or tiredness, WC on the horizon, general poor standard of team play or a combo of all the above has led to a poor spell form wise.

 

[E17yid]

I don't think it's as simple as being out of form. It's just he's not half the player he is at his best when his body isn't feeling perfect. He needs to feel that confidence in his body for sprinting and turning. At the moment he looks similar to how he does in August. Slow and and slightly clumsy. I also think there's an unconscious thing in the back of his head to protect his ankle for fear of missing the World Cup if he breaks down now.

You mean how he looks in August when he tends to be not in his best form?

I agree it’s never simple and I have no idea why he’s out of form (contrary to Shadydan saying I think I’m a body language expert) I have no answers just pointing out he’s not playing his best football at the moment but what I’m pretty sure of is that it’s not down to him being half fit or lacking match fitness.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Or you can take a more sensible opinion that, for whatever reason, whether it be pychological, a bit or tiredness, WC on the horizon, general poor standard of team play or a combo of all the above has led to a poor spell form wise.

4 goals in 6 games isn't it? This whole poor form thing is being blown way out of proportion IMO. Yes, he's not playing as well as he can but it's nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. This is just one of those SC things that people latch onto as a reason to moan, over analyse it to death and then it snowballs, resulting in some real vitriol toward him and calls for him to be dropped, subbed or whatever. You see it in the match thread, people actually waiting to trot out the latest party line...........

We even had a few people suggest Kane was demanding to be picked, which is one of the most idiotic suggestions to come out of this whole thing IMO.

 

[dagraham]

What kind of things do you think form effects, then.

Imo if he was just out of form, he would still be doing the same things physically, just without the same confidence in front of goal. To be honest, I feel he's been a bit out of from for a while (even before his injury), not being as clinical in front of goal. He was still a beast physically though, dominating CB's whoever we played against.

Now he's barely involved in the game, is slower to 50/50's, his movement has tailed off and CB's are more often than not getting the better of him.

Sure he's out or form, but there's something else there. Not saying it's isn't temporary, but that it hasn't really changed since his return.

 

[E17yid]

4 goals in 6 games isn't it? This whole poor form thing is being blown way out of proportion IMO. Yes, he's not playing as well as he can but it's nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. This is just one of those SC things that people latch onto as a reason to moan, over analyse it to death and then it snowballs, resulting in some real vitriol toward him and calls for him to be dropped, subbed or whatever. You see it in the match thread, people actually waiting to trot out the latest party line...........

We even had a few people suggest Kane was demanding to be picked, which is one of the most idiotic suggestions to come out of this whole thing IMO.

Yep. He’s also literally the only player we have who can not be at his best and still single handedly win us games. Luckily it was never a question that he didn’t start last night.

 

[E17yid]

Imo if he was just out of form, he would still be doing the same things physically, just without the same confidence in front of goal. To be honest, I feel he's been a bit out of from for a while (even before his injury), not being as clinical in front of goal. He was still a beast physically though, dominating CB's whoever we played against.

Now he's barely involved in the game, is slower to 50/50's, his movement has tailed off and CB's are more often than not getting the better of him.

Sure he's out or form, but there's something else there. Not saying it's isn't temporary, but that it hasn't really changed since his return.

Like Archie just said this poor play from Kane stuff has been overplayed. It’s a dip but he’s still carrying us.

I also find it interesting that you admit form is linked to confidence but only in front of goal, why can’t this effect other areas of your game, in your view?

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

They are not really "fans" though are they - just morons that more of a voice than usual in the internet age. The sort of clowns that used to post drivel on the bbc 606 boards. Unfortunately every club has them.....although they seem to come out in more force after a period of relative success. The worry if we stagnate is someone goes full on Arsenal fan TV - few on here have those tendencies!

An upturn in form on the pitch (but still without the glory of trophies) mixed in with the exceptionally high ticket prices and we are sure to find ourselves on a one way ticket to Arsenal fan tv levels of idiocy. Now having a grumble is part and parcel of it all, some fans moan & I do not think less of them as fans for expressing themselves that way and some are naturally pessimistic but its the way in which some seem to turn on our players/manager/chairman at the slightest whiff of perceived failure is alarming considering the complete upturn in the performance of the club recently.

 

[dagraham]

Like Archie just said this poor play from Kane stuff has been overplayed. It’s a dip but he’s still carrying us.

I also find it interesting that you admit form is linked to confidence but only in front of goal, why can’t this effect other areas of your game, in your view?

I suppose it could, I just don’t see it that way. Maybe he’s holding a little back with the World Cup in mind or maybe you’re right?

Thing is, he’s still scoring and I would have thought if was simply poor form and a lack of confidence then the rest of his game would have returned, considering he scored against Brighton and again against Watford.

The Kane I’ve seen in August where things just weren’t clicking looked in poor form ( with the rest of his game not really any different), whereas the Kane I’m seeing now seems different.

Maybe he’s just knackered, maybe his wife is nagging him? Who knows? But I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Needs one more on Sunday to score his 40th (wtf) goal of the season!!

Moves into 6th = with George Hunt in our all time record goalscorers list

106 league goals in 149 games

138 goals in total in 212 games

Needs 6 more goals to move ahead of No5 in the list Jermaine Defoe and will (all being fit and well) this time next year move ahead of Martin Chivers into 3rd in the all time record list!


Four season wonder he's just a four season wonder four season wonder....

 

[DJS]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...iticism-of-harry-kane-unfair-says-tony-cottee

Fair play to Spammer Cottee here.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

So far, Harry has scored at least once against every premier league side he has faced, except for one: Cardiff. Hopefully he can get one against them next season to complete the set

There are two other clubs who might be added to Kane's list:

Championship winners Wolves, who last played in the PL in 2011/12, the season Kane made his debut for the first team (6 Europa League games and 1 goal, but no domestic games).

Derby, who last played in the PL in 2007/08 (Kane didn't even join the Spurs Academy until July 2009), and have just taken the last of the play-off places.

 

[coys200]

7 behind Ian Wright. 63 less games ?

 

[Danners9]

Go away, Skeletor: http://www.espn.co.uk/football/socc...y-kane-arsenal-boss-arsene?ex_cid=fw_affid267

"There are some things that have changed. The impact of the transfers has increased a lot,'' Wenger replied when asked if Spurs now face the same issues Arsenal did 12 years ago. "The prices have gone up and the prices for the stadium have doubled. The transfers of the players have tripled or quadrupled.

"A £10 million player when we built the stadium was huge. Today a guy like Kane, I don't know for much they can sell him. £100m? So they might get more supply. But they have to face it.''

When asked if Tottenham would have to sell players, Wenger then joked: "Yes, to Arsenal, maybe.''




A lot has changed in 12 years, although not in Wengerland. It is well known that Arsenal's sponsorship deal with Emirates was not the best and they renegotiated a few years later in line with the market. Fees have gone up across the board, so selling key players to Man Utd and Man City like they did is not the only option now.

 

[nailsy]

He's overtaken Scholes now, and level with Crouchy on 108 Premier League goals.

 

[DJS]

30 league goals top man!

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Harry has now scored more PL goals in each campaign than the previous one since his breakout year.

That is phenomenal.