Harry Kane
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Flashspur
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Maybe the body slamming by Lovren had something to do with it. Crap referee.
1882andallthat
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To those dickead Liverpool fans trolling HK after the semi final defeat and blaming him for not squaring the ball to Sterling for a so called tap in - just listen to yourselves and what you are saying, and how ridiculous you sound, this is Raheem Sterling you are referring to, can you really blame Harry, given the consistency with which Sterling misses chance after chance even when it's almost impossible to miss, what the f*ck would you have done, knowing it was Sterling ?
Everyone but you idiots know that had Harry squared it to Sterling he would have somehow conspired to knock it straight back to a Croatia player on the line. Yes it was bad miss from Kane in fact both were but it was out of character, 98 or 99 times out of a hundred Kane scores, 98 or 99 times out of 100 Sterling f*cks it up. Which odds would you back at that split second and be honest. Harry is too kind to say it but we all know what he was thinking, so I will say it for him..... Harry at that moment - "I've got to have a go myself because there is no way Sterling is gonna stick it in the onion bag, if it's anyone else I square it for a bloody tap in .........."
Everyone but you idiots know that had Harry squared it to Sterling he would have somehow conspired to knock it straight back to a Croatia player on the line. Yes it was bad miss from Kane in fact both were but it was out of character, 98 or 99 times out of a hundred Kane scores, 98 or 99 times out of 100 Sterling f*cks it up. Which odds would you back at that split second and be honest. Harry is too kind to say it but we all know what he was thinking, so I will say it for him..... Harry at that moment - "I've got to have a go myself because there is no way Sterling is gonna stick it in the onion bag, if it's anyone else I square it for a bloody tap in .........."
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He should have squared it to Sterling, but it's so easy to say that in hindsight given that he didn't find the net himself. However this is Kane we are talking about, and he wouldn't be half as successful if he didn't have the inherent selfishness that all top strikers have. He made a split second decision to shoot, and it being Kane we all backed him to tuck it away, so we can't then roast him for not passing it. What a pity, as it could all be so different if we went 2-0 up, but it's not Kane's fault we didn't deliver across the rest of the 120 minute game
1882andallthat
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I agree with what you are saying that hindsight is a wonderful thing and players have to make split second decisions. Other than Sterling himself, the majority would back Kane to score over him, and given the easier chances that Sterling has missed in this World Cup alone, let alone in other games, Harry absolutely made the right decision having a go, even though Sterling was apparently in a better position I would still back Kane to convert more difficult chances over Sterling's easier opportunities. Look at that chance Sterling missed against Panama when he was approximately 1.5 yards out with almost all the goal at his mercy and he still managed to find the keeper.
Kane was just really unlucky on this occasion, most fans, even non Spurs fans know that it would have been risky to say the least trusting Sterling, given his near almost complete inability to convert even the easiest of chances that anyone else in the team would stick away when it comes to wearing an England shirt and that includes Jordan Pickford if it had been injury time and we were losing.
If it had been anyone else in the team at that particular moment other than Sterling who was in that position to square it to I might have a different view, but I'm backing Harry in doing what he did at the time even though he didn't convert the chance, like you say he didn't have the luxury of hindsight.
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an actually outrageous save, hope it becomes more common knowledge, fed up of people blaming him.
tiger666
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No it isn't. I know of no other player that seems to be injured or tired so much. Whenever he misses a shot, hasn't scored in a game or two we get posters saying he must be tired, injured, lack of sleep due to a baby etc.
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What worries me is that Son will be away for the Asia Games so we have no sufficient back up for Kane if he needs to rest at the start of PL. He has looked very tired the last games and will not get any pre-season training due to later scheduled holiday. I hope he will be rested at the start of the season but he will been off the ball for some time.
I think he’s been some way off his pre ankle injury form ever since he’s come back.
I hope it hasn’t caused him an issue long term. He looks half a yard slower and not as sharp.
Fingers crossed a few weeks proper rest and relaxation can sort it out. He definitely rushed himself back
I hope it hasn’t caused him an issue long term. He looks half a yard slower and not as sharp.
Fingers crossed a few weeks proper rest and relaxation can sort it out. He definitely rushed himself back
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They werent saying he looked injured in the first 4 games. One game he didnt even play and was rested.
IMO he isn't injured, tired yes, but arent most of the players who have got to this stage. The croatia team must be fucked. The fact is in the last 2 games he never really played up front, his strongest position. They played sterling up there and kane was basically playing the 10 role dropping deep all the time. I wont even talk about the lack of service.
Kane will play again today, southgate said he isn't injured but fatigued yet will still play him to get his goals for the golden boot race. I really wish they did away with this 3rd place play off.
I actually called it at the time and I've got dodgy eyes. I was watching in a little Spanish bar and didn't understand the commentary, I just assumed they were analysing the save every time they replayed it. I now kind of understand the over the top trolling by Liverpool fans - pure ignorance as usual.
Harry looks so tired because of the midfield running he's doing. Southgate needs to let him play up top with ? Delph or RLC supplying him. The real problems with England are all about not having a playmaker in the squad. Harry Winks will have a great opportunity to fill that vacancy if he comes back strong.
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It's this.
Southgate has captured the affection of the country, and I get that. But the way he's used Kane is criminal. If they think Southgate's done a good job, imagine how much better a job he'd have done if he played his best player properly instead of having him run around all over the middle third of the pitch.
I get that Kane is probably also the best no.10 we have in the squad too, but when he's dropping deep in order to get players like Lingard and Sterling into goalscoring positions you have a massive massive problem.
A team should be more than the sum of it's parts, for sure, but you also need to think about how to get the best out of your best players. And I don't think he achieved that anywhere on the pitch with the exception of Trippier, Maguire and Stones.
Kane and Dele played unfamiliar roles to accommodate others. Sterling was played central rather than coming from wide. Henderson was left to play a lone central role. Lingard was given far too much responsibility, and handled none of it.
Maybe the captaincy drained him a bit. I think there’s a big difference between being captain in one off games where he might thrive off the pressure. But having that constant pressure for 7 weeks can eventually drain you. I know everyone will pull out his scoring record since captain. But Kane will always score even if on one leg. When I think about him in that Liverpool game at Wembley he was an absolute beast. For whatever reason he’s been a shadow of that player this tournament. I’m just thankful the goals will deflect the absolute barrage of abuse he would have otherwise got. Just hope he can score a couple of crackers today and give the golden boot a bit more credibility.
tiger666
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It's obvious why he's been a "Shadow of that player" as @nicdic explained above. His role for England is entirely different to his role for us. He isn't injured, shattered, low on morale or any other excuse. He's fine and played fine, he just isn't being played as a pure striker as he does for us.
Thanks. I also think that Walker is still an enormous liability and that Dier should have been playing in his position. Not Diers fault that there were no other holding midfielders to choose from. In fact I think when they look very carefully back at the tournament Walker will not only lose his place in the back three but he will be pushed hard by Arnold for the back up place to Trippier. Yes I have become a Walker ‘hater’ but only in football terms. He is very likeable but also just very thick.
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