Harry Kane

[danielneeds]

He's a rhythm player. He's always been a rhythm player. Once he he has his full match sharpness back, he'll be in the goals again.

 

[slartibartfast]

Did you actually watch any of the games?

He offered v little from open play regardless of scoring lots of penalties

Not sure I agree that he offered very little. He was offered absolutely nothing the whole tournament and fed off scraps.
Watch Lukaku. He was threaded clean through about 3 or four times and fucked it up every time. Thats offering nothing.
Kane never had a single pass to him in the box until the last meaningless game let alone missing clear cut chances. Greedy kid Sterling kept trying to do it all himself and fkin it up.
Annoys me when people think Kane should be capable of running around 4 players and slapping it in the top corner every game.
If Linekar in his prime had played in that team he wouldnt have scored at all.

 

[coys200]

I don’t think it’s anything to do with an injury. There’s just no way he’d be coming back early to train or play yesterday. We had a perfectly good option in Son to play. Just remember the guy is human he’s not a machine. He’s barely had a drop off in scoring in 4 years and still managed golden boot when not at his best. If he doesn’t have one fallow season from now till 30 I’d be amazed and even that season will probably be 20 goals. Hopefully it won’t be this season. Plus he just had a baby this week. No athlete can be peak for 5 years week in week out,it’s just impossible. He will always score even not at best. People need to chill about him.

 

[spursfan77]

I still maintain he looks like he’s bulked up too much in the last 12 months.

He needs a break too but I bet Poch keeps starting him. He just needs to sub him off earlier and nurse him thorough games.

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I still maintain he looks like he’s bulked up too much in the last 12 months.

He needs a break too but I bet Poch keeps starting him. He just needs to sub him off earlier and nurse him thorough games.[/QUOTE

I think he does look a bit heavier. Kane’s one of them players who’s probably not a natural athlete so has to find his optimum physique/weight to be at his powerful best. As you say at the moment I think he’s a touch on the Baulky side. Tiredness or mental fatigue could be playing a part as well.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

2 weeks off soon, hopefully England let him relax and rest and don’t call him up for meaningless friendliest.

 

[thelak]

Not sure I agree that he offered very little. He was offered absolutely nothing the whole tournament and fed off scraps.
Watch Lukaku. He was threaded clean through about 3 or four times and fucked it up every time. Thats offering nothing.
Kane never had a single pass to him in the box until the last meaningless game let alone missing clear cut chances. Greedy kid Sterling kept trying to do it all himself and fkin it up.
Annoys me when people think Kane should be capable of running around 4 players and slapping it in the top corner every game.
If Linekar in his prime had played in that team he wouldnt have scored at all.

You know what I mean - nothing close to his best for Spurs

You’ve just added a random straw man argument of your own about running past 4 players - not sure who has said that to you but they are in idiot

But regardless he’s not as sharp as at his best when his touch and awareness make you worried for the opposition each time he gets the ball - not even worth debating IMO

Guy just needs a rest

 

[Saoirse]

2 weeks off soon, hopefully England let him relax and rest and don’t call him up for meaningless friendliest.

Only one of the two is a friendly. The other is in the new UEFA Nations League tournament.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Only one of the two is a friendly. The other is in the new UEFA Nations League tournament.

Which is a friendly. It’s no different to us playing in the ICC this summer.

 

[Martinhotspur]

Did you actually watch any of the games?

He offered v little from open play regardless of scoring lots of penalties

I did watch the World Cup. I thought it was more to do with not having any service. Living off of scraps.
He was the same at the start of last season and the season before.

 

[slartibartfast]

You know what I mean - nothing close to his best for Spurs

You’ve just added a random straw man argument of your own about running past 4 players - not sure who has said that to you but they are in idiot

But regardless he’s not as sharp as at his best when his touch and awareness make you worried for the opposition each time he gets the ball - not even worth debating IMO

Guy just needs a rest

I agree I thought he looked out of sorts yesterday but not at the world cup.
Ball was bouncing off him yesterday and gave ball away a lot. Thats most unlike him. Baby probably keeping him awake all night as well lol.

 

[Saoirse]

Which is a friendly. It’s no different to us playing in the ICC this summer.

Eh, we'll have to see. The Euros were new once and nobody thinks of them or the qualifiers as friendlies now. There's Euro qualification places resting on this, and more importantly there's a big fuck off shiny trophy at the end of it you winning by beating the other team in a final rather than some random pre season table. If nothing else it could be a great springboard for this England team against top opposition.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Eh, we'll have to see. The Euros were new once and nobody thinks of them or the qualifiers as friendlies now. There's Euro qualification places resting on this, and more importantly there's a big fuck off shiny trophy at the end of it you winning by beating the other team in a final rather than some random pre season table. If nothing else it could be a great springboard for this England team against top opposition.

he really needs a break, play vardy or rashford

 

[Saoirse]

he really needs a break, play vardy or rashford

I'm hopeful he'll get a break if he needs one. I think it helps that Southgate seems to have a strong relationship with the clubs, and an unusually secure position as England manager. He'll likely listen to us if we say Kane really needs a break based on our medical advice, and not feel under pressure to play him anyway to get a result and secure his job. I was just saying that I don't think in general this tournament will be treated as friendlies - perhaps more in line with how clubs these days treat domestic cup competitions. I don't think England will be making wholesale changes or trying whacky formations or calling up Jack Wheelchair or anything.

 

[Chris Flynn]

I'm hopeful he'll get a break if he needs one. I think it helps that Southgate seems to have a strong relationship with the clubs, and an unusually secure position as England manager. He'll likely listen to us if we say Kane really needs a break based on our medical advice, and not feel under pressure to play him anyway to get a result and secure his job. I was just saying that I don't think in general this tournament will be treated as friendlies - perhaps more in line with how clubs these days treat domestic cup competitions. I don't think England will be making wholesale changes or trying whacky formations or calling up Jack Wheelchair or anything.

watching the game yesterday i dont think you need medical advise to see he is shattered. A new baby will drain you, no matter what your job. He looked mentally off more than anything, his main asset is quick thinking, just needs a break and some sleep!

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Eh, we'll have to see. The Euros were new once and nobody thinks of them or the qualifiers as friendlies now. There's Euro qualification places resting on this, and more importantly there's a big fuck off shiny trophy at the end of it you winning by beating the other team in a final rather than some random pre season table. If nothing else it could be a great springboard for this England team against top opposition.

There’s no Euro qualification based on this, euro qualifiers start next year. This is just a replacement for friendlies between UEFA nations to make them seem more important.

 

[Saoirse]

There’s no Euro qualification based on this, euro qualifiers start next year. This is just a replacement for friendlies between UEFA nations to make them seem more important.

It's hideously complicated but 20 of the Euro places are done normally through the qualifiers, but the remaining 4 are done through the Nations League instead of the previous Playoff system.

 

[ajspurs]

I really don't buy the argument that he's been playing the way he has because he needs a break. There are so many fitness professionals and experts that regularly monitor him I doubt we'd be putting him out all the time if he was exhausted or overly fatigued.

 

[Thewobbler]

I really don't buy the argument that he's been playing the way he has because he needs a break. There are so many fitness professionals and experts that regularly monitor him I doubt we'd be putting him out all the time if he was exhausted or overly fatigued.

The fans clearly know better then these so called professionals.

 

[adamsky]

watching the game yesterday i dont think you need medical advise to see he is shattered. A new baby will drain you, no matter what your job. He looked mentally off more than anything, his main asset is quick thinking, just needs a break and some sleep!

Agree that he looks off it but I doubt the reason is that he is getting up in night to feed the baby. Pretty sure he will have help with that