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To me he has become too much of a team player - he needs to get back to where he was before - make space Defoe like and shoot - he is our Centre forward act like it

When he first came onto the scene, he was scoring a lot of goals by picking it up 20 yards out, getting it out of feet, and hitting it low across goal into the bottom corners. I remember thinking of that as a trademark Harry Kane goal. Feels like a long time since he's done that, however

Spot on. Hes doing too much hold up play. fuck that england bs. He needs to lead the line, get into the most dangerous position and score. Leave the build up play to the rest.

Hes still scoring goals but he was a better player before he started too much of his hold up player shit.
 

ljinko888

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Hold-up play has been part of his game since he came through.

It's the link-up play that in my opinion has gone downhill since that injury.

They are two different facets.

When Kane gets the ball now with his back to goal or running the channels he is taking more touches than needed it appears to draw fouls, whereas he used to bring the ball under control and find a team mate instantly. Even if it's just an easy obvious pass. At least it keeps the ball moving rather than slowing our play down. He was Sheringham esque in his use of the ball whereas he currently resembles a battering ram.

That's what I want to see back in his game - get it, give it and play from there.
 

Makkaveli101

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I know its not allowed to be critical of Kane but he has been pretty poor for a long time now. Sure he scores goals but as a team we are not as fluid as when we played the Chelsea game away with Lamela Son Eriksen and Son.

I think he needs to find a way of playing better when the focus is not just on him... Had a good chance from the left where he failed to make the pass to Lucas that would have likely killed the game. He is 70% of the player he was in the 2016/2017 season when he scored tremendous goals from outside the box.

Agree, would also say the 2015/2016 season also. I remember a time when everytime he received the ball on the outside of the box you were expecting a goal. He scored more last season than he did in those two previous seasons - but the flair and audacity to go for those shots seems to have gone.

It's a strange one. He'll still bang in 30 goals, I'm sure - just seems like some of the more spectacular goals haven't seemed to be in his locker in the last year.

Will reiterate what someone else said, in that birth of his second child must be giving him sleepless nights. His other kid is also young so it probably is having an effect. I don't have kids myself but have two young nieces, two godsons and I'm always told - the first kid is manageable, but the second makes things extremely tiring - as they both need your 24/7 attention. He's only human.
 

DCSPUR

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just saw the header he missed....shame...that was a big chance for him - did the hard work. He's had 3 headed chances in the last two games and scored the toughest and missed the other two.
Suspect his good form, like winter, is coming
 

mattdefoe

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Disappointing by harry . I feel like he’s sitting back a little . Aubuamengs goal for arsenal is the sort of thing we need kane doing again but he’s barely getting shots on goal
 

Gilzeanking

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Will reiterate what someone else said, in that birth of his second child must be giving him sleepless nights. His other kid is also young so it probably is having an effect. I don't have kids myself but have two young nieces, two godsons and I'm always told - the first kid is manageable, but the second makes things extremely tiring - as they both need your 24/7 attention. He's only human.

He's on 200k plus . Help with newborn child is loose change . The idea he is up through the night bottle feeding etc and falling asleep in training is people confusing their own lives with that of multi millionaires imo .
 

Hakkz

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He's on 200k plus . Help with newborn child is loose change . The idea he is up through the night bottle feeding etc and falling asleep in training is people confusing their own lives with that of multi millionaires imo .

I don't think he's responsible for bottle-feeding etc, but I imagine he wants to be like any other father. Being part of his family's everyday life involves some sleepless nights.
 

nickspurs

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I don't think he's responsible for bottle-feeding etc, but I imagine he wants to be like any other father. Being part of his family's everyday life involves some sleepless nights.
I very much doubt it. I defer you to Gilzeanking’s post above. I bet his missus is crystal clear on the importance of Harry’s sleep to his/their collective success. She’ll get all the help she needs through the night.
 

yankspurs

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Just don't know whats wrong with Harry...

He was the player you would want to be playing in the school yard before.. He's not been that player for a good while now. If i was a kid playing id be arguing that i want to be lucas and yeh you can be Kane.
He’s fucked. Not close to full fitness and he hasnt been for a long time. For his and our own good, he needs to be forced into taking a few weeks off right now. And i mean weeks off as in no training. Full on holiday. We rushed him back too soon again. The way this is going, its gonna end up a sad story.

Its already beginning. We could at least try to stop it. Take him from England right now. Send him to the Bahamas with his family for a few weeks and get him back in training after the next international break.
 

spursgirls

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Hold-up play has been part of his game since he came through.

It's the link-up play that in my opinion has gone downhill since that injury.

They are two different facets.

When Kane gets the ball now with his back to goal or running the channels he is taking more touches than needed it appears to draw fouls, whereas he used to bring the ball under control and find a team mate instantly. Even if it's just an easy obvious pass. At least it keeps the ball moving rather than slowing our play down. He was Sheringham esque in his use of the ball whereas he currently resembles a battering ram.

That's what I want to see back in his game - get it, give it and play from there.
I think this applies to a lot of the team at the moment. They are taking more touches, and slowing the game down. I want to see the fast paced, one touch football we destroyed teams with.
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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He’s fucked. Not close to full fitness and he hasnt been for a long time. For his and our own good, he needs to be forced into taking a few weeks off right now. And i mean weeks off as in no training. Full on holiday. We rushed him back too soon again. The way this is going, its gonna end up a sad story.

Its already beginning. We could at least try to stop it. Take him from England right now. Send him to the Bahamas with his family for a few weeks and get him back in training after the next international break.

I think he's the kind of player to rush himself back, not just the club. It would be sad for him never to get back to THAT player even if he still scores a ton of goals.
 

yankspurs

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I think he's the kind of player to rush himself back, not just the club. It would be sad for him never to get back to THAT player even if he still scores a ton of goals.
Of course a player is going to want to play. It is up to the club to save him from himself. If we dont, we’re culpable in ruining him.
 

Gb160

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Of course a player is going to want to play. It is up to the club to save him from himself. If we dont, we’re culpable in ruining him.
If you're talking about England, the club has absolutely no power here... if the player isn't injured, and he wants to go, they can't stop him.
He's living the dream, such a tiny percentage of footballers get the opportunity to captain their nation, i dont blame him one little bit for wanting to be there.
 
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dagraham

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Of course a player is going to want to play. It is up to the club to save him from himself. If we dont, we’re culpable in ruining him.

That and a failure in buying another decent number 9 to take the pressure off him.

Tired of the argument a CL club and one with aspirations of challenging for major trophies are unable to get anyone better than Jansen or Llorente just because we have Harry Kane. There’s a guy over at Fulham for instance who I’d take anyway day of the week over those two.
 

DJS

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https://thisisfutbol.com/2018/09/blogs/bellamy-game-time-is-why-tottenham-cant-make-signings/

Interesting thoughts from Bellamy.

Obviously it does make it a little trickier as strikers probably think they aren’t gonna get a sniff, although personally I feel we should be able to get someone in to cover / compete with him.

I’d have been happy with King from Bournemouth for example, a lot of people poo poo’ed him but he’s a solid striker and would have given us decent options.
 

dtxspurs

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https://thisisfutbol.com/2018/09/blogs/bellamy-game-time-is-why-tottenham-cant-make-signings/

Interesting thoughts from Bellamy.

Obviously it does make it a little trickier as strikers probably think they aren’t gonna get a sniff, although personally I feel we should be able to get someone in to cover / compete with him.

I’d have been happy with King from Bournemouth for example, a lot of people poo poo’ed him but he’s a solid striker and would have given us decent options.
I think the issue is wages/trophies in all honesty. Players are perfectly fine to come be backups on Chelsea, City, ManU, Liverpool, etc as they have a decent shot of winning trophies and will likely be given a pay raise to sit on the bench from their current club. We will pay them as backups, fair or not.
 

DJS

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I think the issue is wages/trophies in all honesty. Players are perfectly fine to come be backups on Chelsea, City, ManU, Liverpool, etc as they have a decent shot of winning trophies and will likely be given a pay raise to sit on the bench from their current club. We will pay them as backups, fair or not.

Yeah good point, Chelsea for example just chuck silly wages at them.

Batshuayi has been criminally wasted by them.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I think the issue is wages/trophies in all honesty. Players are perfectly fine to come be backups on Chelsea, City, ManU, Liverpool, etc as they have a decent shot of winning trophies and will likely be given a pay raise to sit on the bench from their current club. We will pay them as backups, fair or not.

This is so obvious. For the level of back up most are expecting we would have to offer a lot higher wages than we do currently. There is also the issue that they will know Kane is undisputed number one so have no chance of displacing him. Which means we either go through the talented youngster route(Jansen) or the waning high level pro(Llorente). Both which we have tried and failed at.

It's just not easy to find the kind of back ups that are happy to sit on the bench but can find there rhythm and confidence instantaneously when getting opportunities.
 
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