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onthetwo

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T-Love92

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Llorente just don't fit our style of play - if played to his strength he did play well for different clubs.

Janssen was a punt - he had 4 good month in Eredivise, and a couple of goals for a very mediocre dutch team
 

coys200

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It’s funny he’s missed some absolute sitters this season from memory, header United, header Watford,hit the post can’t remember if that was Fulham or Newcastle. Probably couple of others. Could easily be on 5 or 6 and nobody would probably be saying anything.
 

yankspurs

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It’s funny he’s missed some absolute sitters this season from memory, header United, header Watford,hit the post can’t remember if that was Fulham or Newcastle. Probably couple of others. Could easily be on 5 or 6 and nobody would probably be saying anything.
Nobody would say anything? Disagree. He’s at a few goals after August which is groundbreaking territory for him. People here are concerned by Kane for very good reason.
 

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Has it occurred to anyone that Mitrovic, King, and other players at that level would rather play every week for a smaller club and potentially do well enough to earn a move to a big club who need a good first choice striker? For instance, I imagine a lot of number 9s are thinking ‘hmmm, if I score 10 goals in the first half of the season, I could be up front for Chelsea in the second half of the season’.

These guys get one career, they get good money wherever they are, they rather go for broke than be Kane’s permanent understudy. Llorente might not have worked out so far, but he’s the only realistic profile we’ll be able to get. Proven class at the top level, nothing to prove, happy to be a squad player.
 

dagraham

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It’s funny he’s missed some absolute sitters this season from memory, header United, header Watford,hit the post can’t remember if that was Fulham or Newcastle. Probably couple of others. Could easily be on 5 or 6 and nobody would probably be saying anything.

I don't think anybody is concerned due to him missing chances. That's just football, and I have no doubts about his class and ability to finish chances over the whole season.

It's his all round game and general performances that's a concern. Doesn't look as agile, or quick in body and mind. Doesn't seem to be physically bullying defenders like he was either, nor as prolific in getting shots away. Even his passing and touch doesn't look as secure.

It's been like this since the back end of last season and is borne out by both the stats and from watching him play. Whether or not he's adapting his own game because deep down he doesn't feel 100% confident in his ankle or he's just completely knackered which has caused him to lose his edge I know. Or possibly he's trying to play a deeper role and sacrificing some of his innate selfishness on the pitch to the detriment of his own game.

Whatever it is, there is no doubt he is not the same player as we was when we played Liverpool at Wembley last season.
 

Garbob

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Not too bothered by chances Kane may miss because i still think he will score 25+ in the league alone, which is what you want from your top striker. Just really worried about him being tired and fatigued.
 

Sandwich Technician

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Without doubt Harry has been nowhere near the devastating front man he was 18 months ago. Yes, he's scored goals but even an average striker would get a fair few goals due to the amount of chances we create as a team. Previously Harry was blasting shots goal-ward any time he had the merest sniff of a chance, and snappily too before any keeper could properly set themselves. It's obvious that either the injury is taking longer than expected to recover from, or his return was done in haste in an eagerness to overtake Salah to the Golden Boot and make the World Cup.
I also get the feeling that our Harry is rather a sensitive chap and that he's still suffering from the knock his confidence and self esteem took due to the hullabaloo and mockery he received over that Stoke goal. Whatever it is, he's a ponderous imitation of the ruthless striker who scored seven in two games at the end of the 2016/17 season to snatch the golden boot from Lukaku. I do think he has an awful lot on his plate at the moment, he perhaps needs to go right back to basics so he can regain his mojo and be the outstanding player we know he's capable of.
 

onthetwo

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Not too bothered by chances Kane may miss because i still think he will score 25+ in the league alone, which is what you want from your top striker. Just really worried about him being tired and fatigued.
The concern isnt missing chances its the fact that hes not getting as many as he was before...could be formation-related....I dunno.
 

coys200

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My point was if he’d scored 6 in 4 which given the chances was immensely possible they’d be a lot less noise. Instead people would be reeling off ridiculous stats in this thread. I’ll just drop one before I go. He needs 3 more goals to go level with Ian Wright in 60 less PL games.
 

Neon_Knight_

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The concern isnt missing chances its the fact that hes not getting as many as he was before...could be formation-related....I dunno.
That was often the case in the past when we have struggled to create many chances in general.
 

Neon_Knight_

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I don't think anybody is concerned due to him missing chances. That's just football, and I have no doubts about his class and ability to finish chances over the whole season.

It's his all round game and general performances that's a concern. Doesn't look as agile, or quick in body and mind. Doesn't seem to be physically bullying defenders like he was either, nor as prolific in getting shots away. Even his passing and touch doesn't look as secure.

It's been like this since the back end of last season and is borne out by both the stats and from watching him play. Whether or not he's adapting his own game because deep down he doesn't feel 100% confident in his ankle or he's just completely knackered which has caused him to lose his edge I know. Or possibly he's trying to play a deeper role and sacrificing some of his innate selfishness on the pitch to the detriment of his own game.

Whatever it is, there is no doubt he is not the same player as we was when we played Liverpool at Wembley last season.
Didn't people say similar things about him early on most seasons?
2016: Fatigue (mental and physical) off the back of a disappointing Euro 2016 and lack of rest/preseason.
2017: "Can't score in August", supposed Wembley curse etc.
2018: Lack of rest/preseason following World Cup, hasn't looked sharp since returning from injury etc....

Yet he still scores more and more each season!

I'm not saying he's at 100% right now, but I'm also not too concerned.
 

kaz Hirai

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Didn't people say similar things about him early on most seasons?
2016: Fatigue (mental and physical) off the back of a disappointing Euro 2016 and lack of rest/preseason.
2017: "Can't score in August", supposed Wembley curse etc.
2018: Lack of rest/preseason following World Cup, hasn't looked sharp since returning from injury etc....

Yet he still scores more and more each season!

I'm not saying he's at 100% right now, but I'm also not too concerned.

Indeed every season its claimed he needs a rest as if he's 80 and we're asking him to build the pyramids
 

Ordman

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It may be nothing but Harry has welcomed two children into his family in less than two years. I don't you about the rest of you but having infants and toddlers around will certainly affect your sleep and increase your fatigue!
 
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Dazzazzad

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That was an interesting stat. I'd like to see some on sprints and average top speed. Maybe even distance covered. That'll speak more directly to his fitness.
 

Chimbo!

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He's having fewer shots, yes, and he's playing not quite as well. But frankly, we're not creating that many chances at the moment as a team. we are yet to play well this season
 

Spurs_S.A.

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If you're talking about England, the club has absolutely no power here... if the player isn't injured, and he wants to go, they can't stop him.
He's living the dream, such a tiny percentage of footballers get the opportunity to captain their nation, i dont blame him one little bit for wanting to be there.

Agree, however it would have been ideal if some common sense was applied. The players that played majority of the games at the WC should have been not selected for these games. It also would have given Southgate a chance to look at some other options as well. These guys need a break and it would not surprise me if we see some of these players pick up injuries later in the season. Let's hope not.
 

danielneeds

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It may be nothing but Harry has welcomed two children into his family in less than two years. I don't you about the rest of you but having infants and toddlers around will certainly affect your sleep and increase your fatigue!
It's not quite the same for footballers though is it? Harry can afford to have his missus not working, they can get au pairs, and his family all live local, and he can afford for them not to work too, and take the kids.
 

dagraham

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It's not quite the same for footballers though is it? Harry can afford to have his missus not working, they can get au pairs, and his family all live local, and he can afford for them not to work too, and take the kids.

Anyone would think Kane is the only top level footballer to have kids.
 
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