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spids

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'Ridiculous shit' that you're clearly incapable of disputing. You're just stupid.


Are you 12 years old? Who do you think you are? You're not allowed to think Onomah hasn't proved himself for us.

And this is where you still don't get it. We're talking about what players can play CM (in a Harry Winks thread). Onomah has shown he has potential in this position (but has at least 5 players in front of him currently and will need to prove himself). You're getting very boring.
 

spids

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Ha ha the guy's (@Pizza ) about 12 I think fella. Don't worry about it. He says ridiculous shit and when I've given him a wtf for it, he goes back through all my old posts and neg reps them. Ha ha ha the geezer needs to get a life

Ha ha - you called this spot on!
 

Pizza

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And this is where you still don't get it. We're talking about what players can play CM (in a Harry Winks thread). Onomah has shown he has potential in this position (but has at least 5 players in front of him currently and will need to prove himself). You're getting very boring.
You said Onomah was ready to play for us based on very little, I disputed that, and you're throwing a fit like a baby.

And now @Pizza is going through all the threads rating my posts as spam. Even unrelated ones. He is obviously very immature.
You don't like being randomly 'spammed' to the point you're crying about it here? How ironic, maybe don't do it yourself then?
You're just the type who will whinge about anyone who dares to dispute your poor calls. Maybe put more thought into your posts.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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You said Onomah was ready to play for us based on very little, I disputed that, and you're throwing a fit like a baby.


You don't like being randomly 'spammed' to the point you're crying about it here? How ironic, maybe don't do it yourself then?
You're just the type who will whinge about anyone who dares to dispute your poor calls. Maybe put more thought into your posts.
Dude. There's a huge difference between someone reading this thread, thinking you're being a twat and rating appropriately, versus you seeing that and seeking out old posts to negatively rate. Pretty sure the latter is against forum rules. Chill, and contribute to discussions without taking out personal vendettas against those of us who disagree with you.
 

Pizza

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Dude. There's a huge difference between someone reading this thread, thinking you're being a twat and rating appropriately, versus you seeing that and seeking out old posts to negatively rate. Pretty sure the latter is against forum rules. Chill, and contribute to discussions without taking out personal vendettas against those of us who disagree with you.
You mean like this?
Wow - the first person on here I actually really dislike. I think I'll leave you too it pal.
I haven't taken out any vendettas on anyone, but better to have a go at those those with different opinions yeah? I'm just defending myself from thought police like you, lashing out at me for suggesting Onomah isn't ready.

You're right though, I should stick to this thread as far as ratings go. I think you're being a twat now, so I'll rate accordingly.
 

spids

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You mean like this?

I haven't taken out any vendettas on anyone, but better to have a go at those those with different opinions yeah? I'm just defending myself from thought police like you, lashing out at me for suggesting Onomah isn't ready.

You're right though, I should stick to this thread as far as ratings go. I think you're being a twat now, so I'll rate accordingly.

Ha ha.

I never said Onomah was ready, I simply said he's shown he can play in CM, and could be considered there in future. You started aggressive challenging even though you didn't understand! I tried explaining but just got insults. I will note that pretty much everyone else has rated my posts with 'like' or 'winner' so your feeble attempts to neg rate me in this thread and other ones is clearly pathetic. I am now blocking you so I don't have to read your irrelevant WUM posts anymore. Muppet.
 

Jgplk1

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'Ridiculous shit' that you're clearly incapable of disputing. You're just stupid.


Are you 12 years old? Who do you think you are? You're not allowed to think Onomah hasn't proved himself for us.
Yes ridiculous shit... The post I gave a WTF rating to, was you in the Dier thread saying something along the lines of you can't use videos to judge a person's range of passing.

Which to me is ridiculous... Especially as someone had posted a video of Dier making a wide range of passes. Of course you can use videos to judge a player... scouts & managers use videos all the time. It's obviously better to watch live buy you can't do that all the time.

Especially seeing as by the looks of things you live in Australia. So I'm guessing you don't go to many lives games? Therefore all your judgements must be worthless?

Anyway you've gone back and disliked another load of random posts I've made from months ago. Carry on fella. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Ha ha ha. Muppet
 

Pizza

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Ha ha.

I never said Onomah was ready, I simply said he's shown he can play in CM, and could be considered there in future. You started aggressive challenging even though you didn't understand! I tried explaining but just got insults. I will note that pretty much everyone else has rated my posts with 'like' or 'winner' so your feeble attempts to neg rate me in this thread and other ones is clearly pathetic. I am now blocking you so I don't have to read your irrelevant WUM posts anymore. Muppet.
Think Sissoko will leave (Marseille?). Also think Onomah is ready to play in the middle based on his assured performances in the U20 World Cup.
You are a moron.

People rate your posts positively because they're thought police like you are. Should anyone think Onomah isn't ready, they must be some kind of troll as far as people like you are concerned.

Yes ridiculous shit... The post I gave a WTF rating to, was you in the Dier thread saying something along the lines of you can't use videos to judge a person's range of passing.

Which to me is ridiculous... Especially as someone had posted a video of Dier making a wide range of passes. Of course you can use videos to judge a player... scouts & managers use videos all the time. It's obviously better to watch live buy you can't do that all the time.

Especially seeing as by the looks of things you live in Australia. So I'm guessing you don't go to many lives games? Therefore all your judgements must be worthless?

Anyway you've gone back and disliked another load of random posts I've made from months ago. Carry on fella. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Ha ha ha. Muppet
Except you can't, because highlights packages only show his good passes. Every player in the world could have a highlights package that demonstrates an elite range of passing, you moron.

By the way, I can see ratings bother you a lot since you bothered to make your profile private, and now you're doing the exact same thing you accuse me of. You're as pathetic and stupid as it gets.
 

Paulinho'sAgent

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Winks has seriously potential, really like him. If he come through when we had Europa he'd have been involved every time. It's difficult for him just now, but I trust him and I believe Poch does too.
 

Jgplk1

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You are a moron.


Except you can't, because highlights packages only show his good passes. Every player in the world could have a highlights package that demonstrates an elite range of passing, you moron.

By the way, I can see ratings bother you a lot since you bothered to make your profile private, and now you're doing the exact same thing you accuse me of. You're as pathetic and stupid as it gets.
Ha ha ha no they really don't fella... I'm rating your posts in this thread that we're having a discussion in. Not going back rating random posts.

And yes you can in my opinion use videos to prove that. Even highlight reels. Some players never make long range passes, they always play it safe. If there's a highlight reel of Dier making a tonne of long and short range passes, it proves he can and does make them imo.

Now, you're really boring me. I'm gonna stop replying, but feel free to rate every post I've ever made xx
 

tooey

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Christ, this forum really takes a dive in the summer months "you neg rated me" "Yeah but you neg rated me first". Grow up.

Back on topic, I think we need to be patient with Winks, he's had a long lay off and it may take a few months or more to get back into the form he showed last year.
 

Pizza

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Ha ha ha I didn't do it before as I hadn't read them. I've been out all day, having a life.
Sure thing, even though you went to the trouble of applying ratings to all my posts ITT. Quite the life.

And yes, everyone is free to have an opinion. I thought yours deserved a WTF so I gave it one. Usually that's the end of the story, but I don't often talk to people as immature as you, and I teach for a living!
I'm also free to do the same thing. At least I didn't cry about it in this thread.

Anyway, it's bed time here so I really am gonna stop. Please don't keep quoting my posts as I'm not gonna bother replying
Didn't you say that last time? Evidently you lack restraint.
 

Woodyy

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Not even close. The U20 World Cup is a far lower level than the Premier League.

Can't believe that comment got a disagree and dislike? The U20 WC is definitely nowhere near PL level and Onomah is nowhere near playing CM at Spurs when you've got Dembele, Wanyama, Dier and Winks all ahead of him. Maybe in some League Cup games. I'm not saying he won't be good enough in the future but those 4 are definitely ahead of him.
 

beats1

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Can't believe that comment got a disagree and dislike? The U20 WC is definitely nowhere near PL level and Onomah is nowhere near playing CM at Spurs when you've got Dembele, Wanyama, Dier and Winks all ahead of him. Maybe in some League Cup games. I'm not saying he won't be good enough in the future but those 4 are definitely ahead of him.
People said the same about winks last season yet, despite him being less experienced than Onomah at all levels
 

Woodyy

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People said the same about winks last season yet, despite him being less experienced than Onomah at all levels

Yeah I mean I guess it depends how you look at it, I think he'll get some game time at CM but I really can't see him climbing the pecking order above those 4, definitely not Dier, Dembele or Wanyama at least.
 

Shadydan

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Yeah but the argument has got out of hand really, there is nothing to suggest that Onomah can't take one of the midfield spots next season, as far as I can see @spids didn't say anything about being first choice and playing every match. The problem is though is getting the chance to do so because he won't get many minutes due to having so much cover there.
 
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Pizza

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People said the same about winks last season yet, despite him being less experienced than Onomah at all levels
Winks proved himself capable of playing high level football, especially in the pre-season last year against quality opposition.

Onomah has not looked like a Premier League level player for us at senior level, let alone top 4 level. Until he shows something in either a cup game or the pre-season, I think it's ludicrous to suggest he's ready to start playing in the Premier League for us.

Time for more dislikes I guess, since I dared to suggest Onomah isn't ready.

Yeah but the argument has got out of hand really, there is nothing to suggest that Onomah can't take one of the midfield spots next season, as far as I can see @spids didn't say anything about being first choice and playing every match. The problem is though is getting the chance to do so because he won't get many minutes due to having so much cover there.
Aside from never having proved anything at senior level?

Maybe we should start thinking about giving guys like Shashoua and Oakley-Boothe Premier League game time; after all, they've performed really well at youth level.
 

Shadydan

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Winks proved himself capable of playing high level football, especially in the pre-season last year against quality opposition.

Onomah has not looked like a Premier League level player for us at senior level, let alone top 4 level. Until he shows something in either a cup game or the pre-season, I think it's ludicrous to suggest he's ready to start playing in the Premier League for us.

Time for more dislikes I guess, since I dared to suggest Onomah isn't ready.
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Aside from never having proved anything at senior level?

Maybe we should start thinking about giving guys like Shashoua and Oakley-Boothe Premier League game time; after all, they've performed really well at youth level.

lol This is the problem, your argument is full of straw men, you're actually that desperate to have an argument on here you're just literally making stuff up :ROFLMAO:

I noticed that you only bolded part of my quote and didn't bother to read all of it...if you actually took a deep breath, calmed down and learn to read and comprehend my argument you will notice that I said that he has other players who will start in front of him and he'll have a tough time to break into the first team which suggests that it's acknowledged that he won't be first choice at Spurs. You seem to think that people are suggesting that he should thrown him into the first team straight away, in fact the utter stupidity of your argument is compounded by the fact that Winks was in exactly the same position this time last year and he was given the chance by playing in midfield and he took it yet you happily acknowledge that which is what people are saying for Onomah - why can't Onomah be given the same chance as Winks by going into the new season as 5th choice?

The silly thing is that we're all actually in agreement yet you've taken up this stance and some keep rebutting with unnecessary straw men which is really fucking weird, think you need to chill out a bit (y)
 

Shadydan

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Actually if you bothered to read, the only thing I originally ever disputed was this, cue to utter morons like yourself piling on the negative ratings.

Yes but again this comes down to the problem oh having such a hard on for an argument, you assumed @spids was talking about Premier League level when he said that Onomah should start, he even qualified his argument here ffs:

You have got this soooo wrong. Maybe re-read the thread and work out what I was saying. We're talking about a young player who is potentially 6th choice for a CM role, behind Wanyama, Dembele, Dier, Winks, and Alli. I responded to a poster saying Sissoko could be considered for CM to say that he might be off but that Onomah should be considered as a CM following his impressive displays in the U20 world cup. And they were impressive displays. He looked very assured, strong in the tackle, calm in possession and mature in position. Seeing as we have a manager who invests a lot of time in developing youth and getting them into the first team we would be mad not to see what we can do with Onomah in CM.

So it doesn't matter what you 'originally' disputed as if it makes some sort of validity to your argument, it's what you've continued to dispute despite and whatever desperate angle you try and find such is your desperation for an argument and to fulfill this weird agenda.

Nope. I said he shouldn't be anywhere near the premier league minutes at all until he shows something at senior level, be it through cup games or pre-season.

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Well fucking done, that's what's been said all along, do you have reading comprehension difficulties or something, the point being made couldn't be any more clearer which has repeatedly been qualified:

I think what you are saying is that Onomah must play well in a pre-season in CM before being considered to play in that position for the first team and I agree with that statement. And I hope he gets a chance as we was truly magnificent in the U20 world cup. If we have a league cup game and want to rest Dembele and Wanyama I hope we play Onomah

^^^^^^^He even said he agreed with you for God's sake! :ROFLMAO:

*READ.AND.COMPRHEND*

*Now breathe*

Besides shining in pre-season games against Juventus, Atletico and Inter? Has Onomah played a single good game with our seniors yet?

What an utter waste of post, you do realise what time of year we're in don't you? You do actually realise that Onomah could actually get the chance to play in pre season friendlies coming up in his favoured role, maybe it's a good idea to actually wait before you declare anything like that.

'utter stupidity'? Churning out that hyperbole like a true spastic.

Classy fellow, showing your true colours all because of a disagreement on the internet, nothing more pathetic than that. (y)

Like I said before you've gone on to try and discredit people's argument by putting words in their mouths, that's called a straw man argument. Answer me this...If everyone else understood what he was saying then how come Pizza is seemingly so slow that he's hell bent in turning this into an slanging match?
 
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