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Harry Winks - Leicester City

spids

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The player Winks reminds me of most is Scott Parker. Not sure why so many people think that is an insult - don’t forget Scott Parker captained England. Winks is a better passer but weaker in the tackle. They are/were both pretty limited in the last third, and at their most effective squirrelling through gaps in the middle third with a low centre of gravity and decent acceleration.
 

allatsea

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nothing of note but they have 5/6 players brewing in the academy...perhaps past players havent made the grade because they havent been given chances due to how strong Barca's team has been

If they were good enough they would have shown their “world class skills elsewhere” as for those 5 or 6 in the academy lets wait and see. After all Bojan Khric (spelling?) was suppose to be the best young player in the world when at the Barca Academy but where is he now ?
 

ChristianBaler

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If they were good enough they would have shown their “world class skills elsewhere” as for those 5 or 6 in the academy lets wait and see. After all Bojan Khric (spelling?) was suppose to be the best young player in the world when at the Barca Academy but where is he now ?

and before him it was suppose to be Dos Santos....sometimes things just dont work out for players

Puig is the real deal though....remember the name
 

nedley

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Still not entirely convinced he is any better than Tom Carroll. (who I really liked)
Don't mind Winks, but he's yet to really make a big impression.

Yet to make a big impression?

You not see him him in the Bernabau and the Westfalonstadion? Or many of his very good performances in the CL?

His comeback from a bad injury has taken some time granted, but he is playing well.

I cant remember Carroll running the show even against Europa league no hopers.

I'm really not sure what some of our fans are expecting with Winks.
 

punkisback

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The player Winks reminds me of most is Scott Parker. Not sure why so many people think that is an insult - don’t forget Scott Parker captained England. Winks is a better passer but weaker in the tackle. They are/were both pretty limited in the last third, and at their most effective squirrelling through gaps in the middle third with a low centre of gravity and decent acceleration.
Winks is better on the ball than Parker, he's more creative and more progressive. I just feel like he plays within himself a bit, just like how Carrick did. His skill on the ball and speed with it is impressing and he could be breaking lines more. Having someone like Wanyama next to him as a DM would help rather than him being the DM.
 

allatsea

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Winks is better on the ball than Parker, he's more creative and more progressive. I just feel like he plays within himself a bit, just like how Carrick did. His skill on the ball and speed with it is impressing and he could be breaking lines more. Having someone like Wanyama next to him as a DM would help rather than him being the DM.

Pretty sure Winks is currently playing a very disciplined role as required by Poch.
 

Vincent30

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Winks is better on the ball than Parker, he's more creative and more progressive. I just feel like he plays within himself a bit, just like how Carrick did. His skill on the ball and speed with it is impressing and he could be breaking lines more. Having someone like Wanyama next to him as a DM would help rather than him being the DM.

I tend to agree that he plays within himself, but would say Carrick was a much more assured passer of the ball. He's like a hybrid of Parker / Carrick - in that he's not as aggressive or strong as Parker and not as good at passing as Carrick, which isn't a bad thing as he has both of their good parts by doesn't super excel in an area like they did, he's more rounded. But i see improvement in him over the next few years and as his confidence grows.

The amount of times Winks plays the easy ball frustrates me, he will rarely ping a ball over the top or fizz it into a forwards feet if the ball out wide is on. The frustration comes because he has the ability to make such passes and a few moments yesterday he could have, one in particular was in the second half about 15 minutes in when Sissoko was running through and it wasn't a super difficult pass to clip over the top and he just stopped and went out wide for the easy pass.
 

thefierycamel

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Thought he was alright, not great or anything. Needs to have more confidence and run with the ball/play it forward. Goes sideways far too often which isn't what he's there for, leave that to Dier and Sissoko who are less gifted in the passing department. He did it on occasion but still nowhere near enough
 

coys200

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In terms of a title winning team I’d say he is a good player. Remember Danny drinkwater won a title playing alongside Kante. Right now can Winks play a supporting role in a title winning team yes. Do I see him as a key player in a title winning team as in a David silva or a De bruyne no. But hopefully there is still improvement to come. If he was say at Everton or Leicester he’d cost us £35-45m. But for me for us to be serious title contenders we still need another top top draw CM that Winks can play alongside or rotate with.
 

The General

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Winks is having a very good season. I was very critical of him last year and didn’t think he had enough to make it with us, but appears I was wrong. I was too quick to criticise him after his injury, during a couple of very poor performances (such as the cup game against lower league opposition). His surging runs are something I hadn’t really noted before this season and although I still don’t think he’s amazing at any one thing, he appears to have no obvious weaknesses. The Mark Noble and Scott Parker are both good comparisons. Although Noble’s biggest weakness now is he is slower than continental drift, whereas Winks is pretty nippy. But perhaps Noble was faster as a younger man.
I also said Kane would never make it, so my ability to spot a player is not exactly top drawer. However I also said Poch would make a decent player out of Sissoko (although I didn’t think we’d have to wait three years), so even a fool can be right sometimes.
 

danielneeds

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I agree , I was just hoping for another Harry Kane type product who is just unreal.

Makes you wonder how Barcelona produce so many world class talents so effortlessly season after season
They don’t. La Masia has only produced one Barca first team regular in the last 6-7 years in Sergio Roberto, and he’s more of a utility player.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Winks is 22, the age at which we signed Modric. Modric took 18 months to start dictating games for us and showing real creativity.

I am not saying Winks will be as good as Modric, but he's doing very well. Central midfielders take time, especially the more slight, creative types. Xavi was later mid twenties when he really established himself as a top class player, while Iniesta didn't find consistent brilliant till he was 24/25 either. The only playmaking CM I can think of in the modern era who was top class even as a young player is Cesc Fabregas.
 

nedley

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Thought he was alright, not great or anything. Needs to have more confidence and run with the ball/play it forward. Goes sideways far too often which isn't what he's there for, leave that to Dier and Sissoko who are less gifted in the passing department. He did it on occasion but still nowhere near enough

This is his role though, instructed by Poch. Imo.
 

King of Otters

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Winks is 22, the age at which we signed Modric. Modric took 18 months to start dictating games for us and showing real creativity.

I am not saying Winks will be as good as Modric, but he's doing very well. Central midfielders take time, especially the more slight, creative types. Xavi was later mid twenties when he really established himself as a top class player, while Iniesta didn't find consistent brilliant till he was 24/25 either. The only playmaking CM I can think of in the modern era who was top class even as a young player is Cesc Fabregas.

So you're saying there's still time for Mark Noble?
 

Japhet

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The impression I get with Winks is that he does exactly what Poch asks him to do. If it's a case of keeping it simple and compact he plays a lot of square passes, but if Poch lets him off the lead he starts looking for incisive passes and pushes forward himself. What more could you ask of him?
 

smallsnc

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I think, like he did yesterday, Winks is a CM that values possession and tries to take the opportunities given. He does a much better job of switching the field of play than any of our other CMs which leads to defenders getting out of position and leaving openings for others. I thought the pairing with Dier was very good yesterday as Dier went back to his role of 2-3 years ago where he drops in and out of the backline and allows the players in front of them to have more freedom. Well played by both IMO.
 

JCRD

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You can't have every player in the team attempting ambitious passes. Eriksen is the player tasked with the creativity. Winks is clearly tasked with retention, recycling and keeping things ticking and he does that extremely well

I like Winks but HE HAS GOT TO CHANGE HIS SHIRT NUMBER TO 40.. It is paramount he does this
 

Westmorlandspur

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In terms of a title winning team I’d say he is a good player. Remember Danny drinkwater won a title playing alongside Kante. Right now can Winks play a supporting role in a title winning team yes. Do I see him as a key player in a title winning team as in a David silva or a De bruyne no. But hopefully there is still improvement to come. If he was say at Everton or Leicester he’d cost us £35-45m. But for me for us to be serious title contenders we still need another top top draw CM that Winks can play alongside or rotate with.
Gomes is the man.
 
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