Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Shadydan]

high risk = high reward football, that's how we play which means certain players will be prone to more errors, is that concerning fuck no especially as we've come off the back of a season where we had the best defence in the league AND the best attack. I bet you won't find stats where Hugo plays it out from the back and it's put the opposition on the back foot or it's drawn them out which has resulted in a chance for the strikers. You can put as much stock in stats like that all you want but you need to ask yourself whether we'd be better off with or without Hugo Lloris in goal...I think the answer is pretty obvious.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

high risk = high reward football, that's how we play which means certain players will be prone to more errors, is that concerning fuck no especially as we've come off the back of a season where we had the best defence in the league AND the best attack. I bet you won't find stats where Hugo plays it out from the back and it's put the opposition on the back foot or it's drawn them out which has resulted in a chance for the strikers. You can put as much stock in stats like that all you want but you need to ask yourself whether we'd be better off with or without Hugo Lloris in goal...I think the answer is pretty obvious.

I experienced a blasphemous train of thought in relation to Hugo last season-that we might be better served selecting Vorm for the games against the biggest sides, where the passing out from the back has to damn good in the teeth of the opposition's press. The problem with that idea is that it would surely create a media circus. How do you drop your captain for the biggest games?...

Anyway, I don't think he should be captain at all. The guy comes across as being highly intelligent-not just in relation to other footballers, but in a general sense-but I don't think he is vocal enough on the pitch.

 

[Shadydan]

I experienced a blasphemous train of thought in relation to Hugo last season-that we might be better served selecting Vorm for the games against the biggest sides, where the passing out from the back has to damn good in the teeth of the opposition's press. The problem with that idea is that it would surely create a media circus. How do you drop your captain for the biggest games?...

Anyway, I don't think he should be captain at all. The high comes across as being highly intelligent-not just in relation to other footballers, but in a general sense, but I don't think he is vocal enough on the pitch.

Yeah Lloris is a better keeper than Vorm, the only thing Vorm indefinitely has on him is passing accuracy and playing out from the back, I reckon we'd lose Hugo's shit stopping ability and his lighting quick reflexes if he wasn't playing. Also I don't think it matters who's captain, it's not as if we don't have any other vocal players on the pitch, Kane, Dier, Vertonghen, Alderweireld.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

But Lloris is a better keeper than Vorm, the only thing Vorm indefinitely has on him is passing accuracy. Also I don't think it matters who's captain, it's not as if we don't have any other vocal players on the pitch, Kane, Dier, Vertonghen, Alderweireld.

On the whole, he's a better keeper, yes, but my concern is that he has a rick in him in the big games, where there's a massive psychological prize up for grabs.

I don't rate Dier as a leader. Not yet anyway.

 

[Shadydan]

On the whole, he's a better keeper, yes, but my concern is that he has a rick in him in the big games, where there's a massive psychological prize up for grabs.

I don't rate Dier as a leader. Not yet anyway.

I honestly think that the big match thing is just lazy analysis, how many big matches have we played where Lloris hasn't made an error for example, the amount of times he hasn't made errors in bag matches outweigh the times he has by far.

 

[midoNdefoe]

a) Probably as good a goalkeeper as we could hope to have right now
b) Good captain, speaks well, represents the club with dignity, a nice person
c) Overrated

These comments seem fairly daft.

a) Do you anticipate us signing one of: DeGea, Neuer or Cortois in the near future, then?
b) some empty platitudes to cover the negativity
c) If you hold him as a god-like creature in your head, then yes, you are overrating him....slightly.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I honestly think that the big match thing is just lazy analysis, how many big matches have we played where Lloris hasn't made an error for example, the amount of times he hasn't made errors in bag matches outweigh the times he has by far.

Perhaps it is inadvertently lazy analysis on my part. The big games are the ones that stick in your mind, the ones that make you dread going to work the next day if you've fucked them up. And over time, I have just had this sense-if I dug out stats, that would not satisfy most people either-that Hugo has got this wobble in him when the stakes are at their highest. It's my perception, it is subject to change, but I find it extremely peculiar.

 

[Pellshek]

These comments seem fairly daft.

a) Do you anticipate us signing one of: DeGea, Neuer or Cortois in the near future, then?
b) some empty platitudes to cover the negativity
c) If you hold him as a god-like creature in your head, then yes, you are overrating him....slightly.

a) No, that's why I said Lloris is the best we can do. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
b) Leadership & character matter in elite sport; they're not empty platitudes.
c) A player can both be very good, and overrated. Coutinho, Neymar and van Djik are all examples for me. There's no contradiction. I think Lloris is both very good, and overrated.

 

[tiger666]

Great game

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Well I've bashed him for dropping clangers in big games, but tonight he was a paragon of excellence.

 

[felmani26]

Considering the stage and calibre of opposition, that was up there with one of the best goalkeeping displays i've seen from a Spurs 'keep.

Bravo Hugo. Bravo.

 

[Swalien]

Brilliant performance from our captain tonight.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

Never ever doubted Captain.

And hes underrated not overated.
And hes a goalie, not fucking Beckham, no laser pass here.
And..End

 

[HildoSpur]

Total hero tonight.

 

[murichej]

Thanks Hugo for todays performance!

 

[easley91]

To me it’s nights like tonight that should secure Hugo (and others) for the longer term. Results like that tells the players that Poch’s magic is working.

Hugo Lloris > every other keeper.

 

[NinjaTuna]

His kicking was faultless tonight too. No fucking about, just welly it as far down the pitch as possible

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

He put us through to the next round

 

[slartibartfast]

Edit. Wrong thread

 

[slartibartfast]

Right thread.
For me the issues I have with Lloris aren't likely to surface in a game like this.
He isnt going to throw it out to a defender whose boxed in by Real Madrid players.
It'll be keep it simple and clear the bloody thing.
And as far as shot stopping goes he is and always has been up there with the best so not a massive shock that in a game against some of the worlds best attacking players he pulls off some truly world class saves.
But thats what makes him a bit frustrating, it's against weaker opposition where he has more time and he starts taking liberties, throwing it out to someone facing him who's surrounded, piss poor kicks etc, that's what does some peoples nut in. Its the easiest part of his game.
That said I do think a lot of those decisions come down to instruction, same as per recent Wales fk up and there's at least 1 per week in PL. Its the 'lets try and play like Barcelona even though we cant' disease thats spread across the world in recent years
He's a top notch goal keeper and we're very very fkin lucky to have him and no, we've no chance of getting anyone better. Not even sure there is anyone.
I'm delighted he's ours and long may it continue.
COYS