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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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Having a lot of money made it easy to not drive drunk as you can have a chauffer drive you around. Technology has made it so easy for normal people to not drive drunk. Insanely easy, in fact. Footballers and very wealthy people have both options available to them. Yet they will still drive drunk. Really baffling.
 

MyNameIsNicolaBerti

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Jan 28, 2013
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Fucking hell, can always rely on people to completely fucking over react on here.

Perhaps we should be waiting for some more details, especially regarding how far he was over the legal limit, before we say he should have the captaincy stripped or that he should be stood down from the team. There's a big difference between having one too many glasses of red and miscalculating and being 15 pints deep and driving home after a night spent clubbing.

I never have and never will get behind the wheel of a car after even one drink. I know people who have lost loved ones through drinking driving. I have zero tolerance for it, technical limit or otherwise. The safety of others is paramount in my opinion.
 

nidge

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I am honestly very surprised by the some what casual response to drink driving in this thread. Do people really believe it's ok to be even just a little bit over the limit?
 

Teemu

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Jan 12, 2006
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Questioning his future at the club is ridiculous, life isn’t black and whites people make mistakes, good people are still capable of doing stupid and even bad things. He’s not the first, he won’t be the last. Ledley King, Jonathan Woodgate, Van der Vaart, Luka Modric, all guilty of criminal offences in the past decade.

Apart from Woodgate, were any of them actually found guilty of a criminal offence? I remember Ledley was arrested but can't remember him going to court or being sentenced? And VdV admitted hitting his wife but I don't remember that ever going to court either.

Not condoning the behaviour obviously but genuinely curious...
 

buckley

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Sep 15, 2012
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I think spurs should be deducted 3 points overtime loris plays
I also think spurs should be deducted 3points everytime dele Ali does his eye thing
This is to go along with the Chelsea fan who thinks that every home match we are late on the new stadium
 

mark87

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Nov 29, 2004
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If he does get dropped for Monday I'm confident Vorm can fill in for him. Couple years ago Hugo got injured and vorm came in for a home game against Liverpool and if I rememeber correctly he may have been given man of the match. The only motm Hugo has got recently is man of the moet.
 

hughy

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This might sound a bit bizarre, but the real victims from this are the Spurs fan's (or any human being, really) who have had their lives affected in the past by drink drivers. How must they feel knowing one of their heroes is stupid enough to do this?

I don't buy the "let's just wait and hear the facts" argument. Someone being charged with drink driving is fact enough for me. I don't want to see him leave the club, but I hope the appropriate action is taken against him by the club and this doesn't just get swept under the rug.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Jul 29, 2005
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That would be a ridicoulously over the top reaction IMO.

Yes, it's stupid on Hugos part, but it doesn't change his footballing qualities, and his apparent role as a leader in the squad. Everyone commits mistakes, and I'm sure he'll be one of the first to admit how stupid he has been.

I couldn’t disagree more strongly with this comment.
 

Streetspur77

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Jul 20, 2017
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Sorry there’s absolutely no way he can carry on being club captain.And if you disagree with this you really have no idea about the implications of drink driving. This isn’t a silly little mistake.

“If you disagree with me on this hugely subjective issue then you don’t have as much understanding as I do”
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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Obviously he’s been a complete prat but I won’t throw him under the bus until we know the facts.

1 pint can sometimes put you over the limit depending on the person and beer.

Firstly, he shouldn't really be drinking at all, certainly not mid-season. It certainly doesn't do anything to help his performance. But secondly, we're talking about a multi-millionaire. If there was ANY doubt at all he could have got a taxi. He could even have hired a private chauffeur to follow him around just in case on the condition of absolute discretion, and it'd cost him barely anything. There is zero excuse for someone in his position.
That would be a ridicoulously over the top reaction IMO.

Yes, it's stupid on Hugos part, but it doesn't change his footballing qualities, and his apparent role as a leader in the squad. Everyone commits mistakes, and I'm sure he'll be one of the first to admit how stupid he has been.
Questioning his future at the club is ridiculous, life isn’t black and whites people make mistakes, good people are still capable of doing stupid and even bad things. He’s not the first, he won’t be the last. Ledley King, Jonathan Woodgate, Van der Vaart, Luka Modric, all guilty of criminal offences in the past decade.

Questioning if he should remain as captain, from a purely PR viewpoint, I get. Questioning whether he should continue at the club is borderline hypocritical unless you yourself to have had the exact same attitude for the other players listed.

It's more than a stupid mistake or a bad thing. He put the lives of innocent people at risk to a far greater extent than any of the others did. He decided that saving £30 on a Uber was worth more to him than not putting people in danger. That's a mind-blowing level of arrogance.
Whilst I agree with the message, you don’t know all the facts and he could have just slightly been over which loads of people are every day.
So what? The limit is where it is for a reason and frankly should probably be lower. A tiny bit over the limit is too far over the limit.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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If he does get dropped for Monday I'm confident Vorm can fill in for him. Couple years ago Hugo got injured and vorm came in for a home game against Liverpool and if I rememeber correctly he may have been given man of the match. The only motm Hugo has got recently is man of the moet.
Hugo is by far our #1 keeper but there is no one i’d rather have fill in for him than Vorm.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Sorry there’s absolutely no way he can carry on being club captain.And if you disagree with this you really have no idea about the implications of drink driving. This isn’t a silly little mistake.

He should definitely be dropped for Monday. Drink driving is inexcusable. Especially in central London where its needless. What was he doing out at that time of night days before a game anyway.
 

glospur

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Not really. Both massively increase the risk of you seriously injuring or killing either yourself or other people.

Only difference being someone 15 pints deep probably wouldn’t be dim enough or have the capability to chance it IMO.
Yeah nah. I'm not sure of the details of the law in the UK, but in Australia we have a legal limit of 0.05 blood alcohol content when driving. You're fine if you're 0.05, but if you slightly miscalculate and end up as 0.06 when tested you can receive fines and points on your licence. Practically, there is very little difference between 0.06 and 0.05 when it comes to the physiological changes to your reactions, perception etc, yet if you're on one of those numbers you're fine, and if not, you're fucked. "massively increase the risk of you seriously injuring or killing either yourself or other people" is massively overstating it.

People who are 15 pints in, for the most part, might be less inclined to drive, but they also have significantly lower inhibitions and ability to identify risk, so in certain incidents may not even realise the risk of drink driving at all, particularly for short journeys. They're also significantly more impaired than someone who is just over the limit, so while there will be fewer people to drive when this drunk, they're the ones who will cause the most damage because they're the most impaired.

Personally, I'm in favour of a legal limit of 0 and trust me, I know the dangers of drink driving. My father and a brother of mine were both killed in single vehicle car accidents when drink driving. But regardless of what the limit is, there will always be those who drive when above it. And of those people, there is a significant difference in those who misjudge how much they've had when the law allows you to drive with X amount of alcohol in your system, and those who know they're over but are willfully endangering life.

That's why we should wait for more details before blanket condemning him. If he was blind drunk, then absolutely he should be reprimanded, and severely so, but he shouldn't be punished for miscalculating while trying to stay in the limits of the law.
 

diamond lights

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Aug 31, 2012
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I am honestly very surprised by the some what casual response to drink driving in this thread. Do people really believe it's ok to be even just a little bit over the limit?

That's not the case from what I'm reading. People are just saying let's not rush to judgement.

Even the law gives an individual their day in court before sentencing. Human beings make mistakes and should suffer the consequences but making snap declarations of how horrified you are serves no purpose.

Hugo is our club captain, has been an exemplary representative of the club to date and we should keep a sense of perspective.

This is not in any way a defence of drink driving but simply a statement against knee-jerk judgements that people are all too quick to make.
 

vicbob

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Aug 26, 2008
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While non of us know the facts yet, I very much doubt he was driving drunk, but that still does not alter the fact he is a total idiot for being even the tiniest bit over the limit. There is no excuse and I'm sure Poch will want to know what the hell he was doing out at 2 am on a school night drinking any amount of alcohol.

This is perfect to redirect the attention from Utd's woes and he really should have known better
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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Frankly I think he should lose the captaincy and he shouldn't play at Old Trafford or against Watford until his case has been heard. As a club we're in a position of power here - millions of children around the world look up to us and our players. We need to put out a strong message about how unacceptable this is. Some things are more important than football. This is one of them.
 
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