Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[LexingtonSpurs]

Well you'd expect that to be the case, wouldn't you? Considering drink-driving is illegal and sober driving isn't. Most people tend to abide by the laws.

Do they? I expect most people do not abide by the laws. Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Gone through a light that just changed to red? Rolled through a stop sign? Changed lanes without signaling?

Its all about risk management - we break laws where we still feel it is safe to do so. Drink driving is one where the vast majority of people choose not to accept that risk - and that is good.

Hugo made a mistake. Fortunately nobody was injured. The courts will determine his legal punishment. I expect he will be benched this week, and maybe next. I don't think Poch will strip him of the captaincy.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

It's also something that's perfectly legal to do up to a certain point. As i said before, there is a significant difference in those who misjudge how much they've had when the law allows you to drive with X amount of alcohol in your system, and those who know they're over but are willfully endangering life

Most people, as @MyNameIsNicolaBerti has ridiculously characterised them, aren't being apologists, they're just reasonably pointing out that there is a scale on how bad the offence of going over is, how easy it is to miscalculate if you're drinking with the intention of staying under, and that we have nowhere near enough information to reactively and hysterically call for him to be dropped or stripped of the captaincy.

At least two machines would have confirmed he’s over the limit. What is the scale?

 

[Streetspur77]

Thanks for that. You’ve somehow proved drink driving does kill...

Mate you’ve just been caught completely making something up, don’t even try and play it off.

 

[Donki]

Do they? I expect most people do not abide by the laws. Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Gone through a light that just changed to red? Rolled through a stop sign? Changed lanes without signaling?

Its all about risk management - we break laws where we still feel it is safe to do so. Drink driving is one where the vast majority of people choose to to accept that risk - and that is good.

Hugo made a mistake. Fortunately nobody was injured. The courts will determine his legal punishment. I expect he will be benched this week, and maybe next. I don't think Poch will strip him of the captaincy.

He has to be.

Your measure in sighting "Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Gone through a light that just changed to red? Rolled through a stop sign? Changed lanes without signaling?" to driving under the influence is mighty strange one.

 

[Makkaveli101]

Unbelievably arrogant of him to think he would get away with driving drunk in London, and I thought he was better than that. Police and cameras everywhere, let alone people everywhere on the streets that are at risk.

You're a multi millionaire. Get a fucking taxi and pay somebody to pick your car up the next day. Fucking idiot.

How typically embarrassing for us fans as well, that our captain- our leader, would be this thoughtless. Just hope it doesn't kill the feel-good factor in the dressing room, because that is whats keeping us going at the moment.

Yeah we're struggling. 3rd, 2nd, 3rd in the last few years. One of the best managers in Europe - world class keeper and striker. Won 2 out of 2 and will beat a struggling Man Ure side on Monday. Batten down the hatches, it's desperate times.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

When sober you should be able to judge and act accordingly and keep concentrating even when "distracted" by others. When your under the influence that ability deteriorates substantially.

Yeah - make no mistake - I am not defending drink driving.

But, there are other factors that play into automobile fatalities.


The 2016 national data shows that:

• Distraction-related deaths (3,450 fatalities) decreased by 2.2 percent;
• Drowsy-driving deaths (803 fatalities) decreased by 3.5 percent;
• Drunk-driving deaths (10,497 fatalities) increased by 1.7 percent;
• Speeding-related deaths (10,111 fatalities) increased by 4.0 percent;

 

[vicbob]

At least two machines would have confirmed he’s over the limit. What is the scale?

Are you deliberately missing the point?

 

[glospur]

At least two machines would have confirmed he’s over the limit. What is the scale?

Third time Ive said this, but there is a significant difference in those who misjudge how much they've had when the law allows you to drive with a certain amount of alcohol in your system, and those who know they're over but are willfully endangering life.

 

[Makkaveli101]

Unbelievably arrogant of him to think he would get away with driving drunk in London, and I thought he was better than that. Police and cameras everywhere, let alone people everywhere on the streets that are at risk.

You're a multi millionaire. Get a fucking taxi and pay somebody to pick your car up the next day. Fucking idiot.

How typically embarrassing for us fans as well, that our captain- our leader, would be this thoughtless. Just hope it doesn't kill the feel-good factor in the dressing room, because that is whats keeping us going at the moment.

Was he drunk or had one glass of wine too many with his meal to fail the breathalyser? You've obviously read the police documentation - so interested to know.

 

[Streetspur77]

A mistake is breaking the other halves favourite vase and trying to glue it back together in an attempt to hide whats happened.

Getting into a car after having an alcoholic drink is a choice and shouldn't be passed off as just a mistake.

mistake
mɪˈsteɪk/
noun

1.
an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
"coming here was a mistake"

Probs gonna go with the dictionary definition of a mistake rather then yours

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Your measure in sighting "Have you ever exceeded the speed limit? Gone through a light that just changed to red? Rolled through a stop sign? Changed lanes without signaling?" to driving under the influence is mighty strange one.

Not doing that - someone said: "I've never put anyone at risk" And my point is we all put others at risk every single day. Some risks, like drink driving, are higher than others. Though things like "speeding" are almost equally likely to cause a fatal accident - yet most of us do that every time we drive.

 

[Donki]

Yeah - make no mistake - I am not defending drink driving.

But, there are other factors that play into automobile fatalities.


The 2016 national data shows that:

• Distraction-related deaths (3,450 fatalities) decreased by 2.2 percent;
• Drowsy-driving deaths (803 fatalities) decreased by 3.5 percent;
• Drunk-driving deaths (10,497 fatalities) increased by 1.7 percent;
• Speeding-related deaths (10,111 fatalities) increased by 4.0 percent;

I get that but drink driving isn't an accident, and speeding isn't an accident. Being distracted is unfortunately something that happens, mostly unintentionally. When you drink and drive your doing it knowing full well even before you turn that key you are at a much higher risk of accident.

 

[Donki]

Not doing that - someone said: "I've never put anyone at risk" And my point is we all put others at risk every single day. Some risks, like drink driving, are higher than others. Though things like "speeding" are almost equally likely to cause a fatal accident - yet most of us do that every time we drive.

We may do but we aren't doing it intentionally, when you drink and drive you are, unless your completely rat arsed.

 

[Shadydan]

This wouldn't have happened if Danny Rose just shook that damn doorman's hand.

 

[Streetspur77]

Yeah - make no mistake - I am not defending drink driving.

But, there are other factors that play into automobile fatalities.


The 2016 national data shows that:

• Distraction-related deaths (3,450 fatalities) decreased by 2.2 percent;
• Drowsy-driving deaths (803 fatalities) decreased by 3.5 percent;
• Drunk-driving deaths (10,497 fatalities) increased by 1.7 percent;
• Speeding-related deaths (10,111 fatalities) increased by 4.0 percent;

People that get distracted are the worst people in the world, thankfully as a superior human I never get distracted.

Should get the death penalty imo and if that makes me a holier then thou then so be it???

 

[ERO]

Distraction-related deaths rarely relates to distractions such as a 10 feet green squirrel rocking your car, but rather intentional distractions while driving such as texting, calling, changing music, etc.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Why? Liverpool didn't ban/drop Firmino when he got arrested for drink driving in 2016. They played him 3 days later and he scored, and a national newspaper made light of his arrest (rather distastefully) in their back page headline. If he's fit to play in both a physical and mental sense, and (as we already know to be the case) is free to play in a legal sense, then why would we impose a ban on him to the detriment of the team when our rivals have not done the same, even in very recent instances of a very similar nature?

Thats the same club that made t-shirts defending a racist. A lot of people disagreed with Firmino playing that soon as well and I'd like to think Poch has a bit more class than that lot

 

[Blue]

So typical that this had to happen right before an important match. #spursy

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Was he drunk or had one glass of wine too many with his meal to fail the breathalyser? You've obviously read the police documentation - so interested to know.

It was gone 2am and he had been with his mates, doesn't take Sherlock to find that out mate

 

[Makkaveli101]

It was gone 2am and he had been with his mates, doesn't take Sherlock to find that out mate

Met mates for a late meal when I lived in London many a times.