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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

TheVoiceofReason

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Yeah we're struggling. 3rd, 2nd, 3rd in the last few years. One of the best managers in Europe - world class keeper and striker. Won 2 out of 2 and will beat a struggling Man Ure side on Monday. Batten down the hatches, it's desperate times.

Great bit of sarcasm here, but my point was that I'm disappointed in our captain.
 

JCRD

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Why? Liverpool didn't ban/drop Firmino when he got arrested for drink driving in 2016. They played him 3 days later and he scored, and a national newspaper made light of his arrest (rather distastefully) in their back page headline. If he's fit to play in both a physical and mental sense, and (as we already know to be the case) is free to play in a legal sense, then why would we impose a ban on him to the detriment of the team when our rivals have not done the same, even in very recent instances of a very similar nature?

I get the captaincy point, but lets not kid ourselves - if the armband is taken off him it will be handed to Harry Kane and it will be done primarily for PR reasons (as in it will make sense from hereon not to have Lloris as the face of the club) as much as football reasons or any sense of morality.

I get why its a sensitive topic for some people but there is no reason for the club to take any action which would unnecessarily weaken the team. While it clearly divides opinion, the precedent has been set, over and over again, by other clubs that no 'football punishment' will be required. His police punishment will be determined in a few weeks. Until then he'll speak to the club, agree to keep his down, discuss and reach some form of agreement on the topic of the captaincy, and ought to carry on doing what he's paid to do.


I think that the ban would be for PR reasons and whilst it would be to the detriment of the team i think players have a duty to act accordingly given their status. You correctly cite Liverscum as an example but lets be honest I think most of us would have been up in arms and said they should ban him etc.

To not ban him whilst retaining the captaincy i think would be wrong. I do not want him to lose the captaincy because i think he is an excellent captain but something needs to be done even if it is to the detriment. I mean we have done worse, we have kept Toby out of the team for merely not signing a contract - you can argue at times that was to the detriment of the team.
 

Makkaveli101

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Apr 11, 2004
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Great bit of sarcasm here, but my point was that I'm disappointed in our captain.

Do love a bit of sarcasm. You inferred we were struggling. We're not. Though thousands of negative voices will certainly encourage it. Considering many of our fanbase are as hysterical and over-reactive as ArseFanTV, I thought it was a point worth making.
 

Gassin's finest

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LexingtonSpurs

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I think its fair to be disappointed in Hugo. I am sure the club, and Poch, are also disappointed. I am also sure Hugo is disappointed - not just for getting caught, but for the example it sets to his teammates, and to supporters who look up to him - and his wife and kids.

I think he will work things out legally, and I think he will work to repair his image within the club, and also within the community.

I will continue to support him, and will reserve long-term judgment until I see how he responds to adversity. Hugo does not have a history of being reckless, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt that this was an anomaly.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Drink driving is a knobbers game. I'm surprised to be honest as I thought he'd be more aware and a little more sensible. He'll get a driving ban and I hope he gets a hefty fine. It's 1 thing I just cannot abide.

However. It's his personal life and he'll be punished by the magistrates. Should be enough. When it comes to football, he absolutely needs to be on the pitch. As captain? Of the club does go for any reprimand, that should be the extent of it.
 

MichaelPawson

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Thats the same club that made t-shirts defending a racist. A lot of people disagreed with Firmino playing that soon as well and I'd like to think Poch has a bit more class than that lot

I hope so too. Spurs, and most other football clubs, should strive to hold themselves to a higher standard than Liverpool.

Very disappointed in Hugo. I think the captaincy should be given to someone else (likely Kane), for at least the foreseeable future.
 

Flashp

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That renders the blood test pointless really as it should purely be about level at the time you were driving.
I agree, but at least in Denmark, the courts have found the breathalyser test to be too faulty and not precise enough, that they can be used as evidence. It's all a matter of legal certainty really.
 

Makkaveli101

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Apr 11, 2004
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Your implication was that those condemning Hugo were acting holier than thou, or somehow virtue signalling. Blatantly downplaying the severity of it, because you’re a numpty.

No, that was the way you interpreted it. Being holier-than-thou yourself, you derived the implication - you clown.
 

SdB

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Aug 23, 2013
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Speaking as an employment lawyer who has advised on many, many disciplinary situations, many people absolutely do lose their jobs over drink driving convictions.

Sadly will never happen with a top football commodity/asset.
Youth team player who isn't going to make it anyway - maybe
 

ERO

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Jun 8, 2003
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I agree, but at least in Denmark, the courts have found the breathalyser test to be too faulty and not precise enough, that they can be used as evidence. It's all a matter of legal certainty really.
A quick Google search claims error margin to be 50 % for breathalisers.
 

'O Zio

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could also be given a curfew requirement for some time which may prevent him playing in evening kick-off matches.

Surely there's some sort of conditions of curfews etc. whereby if it's a requirement for your job that you sometimes work nights then you're allowed to go to work but have to go immediately to/from work and can't stop off anywhere/hang around? Also he has to travel all the time for work so not sure how a curfew would really be possible to be honest
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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He's apologised everyone, it's okay

I wish to apologise wholeheartedly to my family, the club, my team-mates, the manager and all of the supporters.

Drink driving is completely unacceptable. I take full responsibility for my actions and it is not the example I wish to set.

I would also like to point out that I have more points than Arsenal and West Ham this season.

Disclaimer: He may/may not have said that last line :cautious:
 

Spurs72

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May 20, 2008
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IDK how I feel about hugo I just saw this and my head started spinning, Theres no room for this if we as a Club aspire for bigger and better things :banghead:, I have come close to a DUI and I am not the captain of a Football Club, Hugo is, his Drink while driving will not be good for us when we vs United. Not good at all, but Poch wont sit him and tell him this is Unacceptable will he, so I guess the Drink Driving is ok for us :whistle:
 

Makkaveli101

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Apr 11, 2004
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Been reading on social media that Hugo shouldn't play against Man Ure because the fans will be giving him shit?

He's a professional footballer for christ's sake. He's the captain of Spurs and France. You think some fat Londoner in a Man Ure shirt, attending the game before he gets the train back to London - is going to affect his performance???? Really???

If anything it will be drive him on to put on an excellent performance.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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Surely there's some sort of conditions of curfews etc. whereby if it's a requirement for your job that you sometimes work nights then you're allowed to go to work but have to go immediately to/from work and can't stop off anywhere/hang around? Also he has to travel all the time for work so not sure how a curfew would really be possible to be honest
It's down to the judge in question what the conditions are. Employment requirements can be taken into consideration, but don't have to be. I believe Nile Ranger for instance missed several matches because his curfew was too early for him to be allowed to play.

Again though this is only a possibility if Hugo was seriously drunk - in all likelihood he'll get off with a fine.
 

Styopa

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We don’t know the full circumstances. At the very least he’s acted with a certain degree of recklessness. How much? Well it would seem obvious to me that there is a big difference between driving after two glasses of wine and driving totally slaughtered both in the way it effects your driving and the intention behind the act. In this country we are legally allowed to drive with a certain amount of alcohol in our system but I imagine it is very easy to miscalculate that limit on any given day even if you feel sober and you’ve only had one or two drinks. In this sense I think the law causes a good deal of confusion and perhaps it would be best to implement a zero alcohol whilst driving policy.
 
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