Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

[Roynie]

It's down to the judge in question what the conditions are. Employment requirements can be taken into consideration, but don't have to be. I believe Nile Ranger for instance missed several matches because his curfew was too early for him to be allowed to play.

Again though this is only a possibility if Hugo was seriously drunk - in all likelihood he'll get off with a fine.

In the UK, Driving having consumed too much alcohol also has a mandatory disqualification from driving, of at least 12 months.

 

[Spurrific]

No, that was the way you interpreted it. Being holier-than-thou yourself, you derived the implication - you clown.

How did you mean it then?

 

['O Zio]

It's down to the judge in question what the conditions are. Employment requirements can be taken into consideration, but don't have to be. I believe Nile Ranger for instance missed several matches because his curfew was too early for him to be allowed to play.

Again though this is only a possibility if Hugo was seriously drunk - in all likelihood he'll get off with a fine.

Interesting. Cheers.

Personally, I'd be surprised if he was so off his face that his case warrants such a heavy-handed punishment. Obviously just guessing but based on his public persona it's far more likely it was a simple case of having one glass of wine too many with dinner rather than him stumbling out of a club after 15 tequila shots and getting behind the wheel. Not that that excuses him in any way, he still shouldn't drink and drive, but I'd find it odd if he was at the higher end of the scale and subsequently would warrant stricter punishments like curfews. Then again who knows.

 

[MattyP]

Not sure my standard advice is appropriate today.

Okay, he's come out with a suitably carefully worded apology reasonably quickly, which is the very least he should do.

Haven't read every post, but hate the word fact. As far as I can tell, the only "fact" is that he has been charged with drink driving.

So personally I'd like to wait until the circumstances (hopefully a better word) become public before condemning him.

When I used to drive, the one thing I could guarantee on a night out is that I'd be breathalysed. The first time I got breathalysed I'd read somewhere that washing one's mouth our repeatedly with water significantly reduced the results of a breathalyser and whilst I failed the roadside test and got taken back to the station, and failed the first test there, the second test whilst still marginally over the legal limit was in the zone where they don't prosecute. I got such a bollocking from my Dad that I didn't drink a drop of alcohol when driving from then on.

Another time I got pulled over on "routine" stops three times in two miles, by three different sets of Old Bill. And another time I got breathalysed on a "routine" stop with the justification from the OB that I'd pulled out of a junction too quickly, despite driving a clapped out and tuned down Metro, so it was impossible to pull out anywhere quickly.

Reason for mentioning the above is to give context as to circumstances. The above took place decades ago (I haven't driven in years, much to the wife's annoyance) and attitudes towards drink driving have changed significantly in that time, and there are different attitudes in different countries - surprised me how liberal people's attitudes to this were in South Africa when I used to go there a lot.

There's rumours he was 36 mcg, with the limit of 35 mcg. If true, surprised they are charging him, as certainly back in the day they wouldn't.

I'm not making excuses for him, I'm not condoning what he did, but I'd like to know more about the circumstances before making any judgements. Taking the captaincy away seems appropriate.

 

[Spurrific]

People that get distracted are the worst people in the world, thankfully as a superior human I never get distracted.

Should get the death penalty imo and if that makes me a holier then thou then so be it???

Having you on ignore should be the default setting on this website. Absolutely the most boring poster of all time.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

So out of character. Bizarre. Then again, I've known plenty of eminently sensible people have strange moments in life. We all make mistakes. Would love to know what's behind this though. So unexpected.

 

[Saoirse]

Interesting. Cheers.

Personally, I'd be surprised if he was so off his face that his case warrants such a heavy-handed punishment. Obviously just guessing but based on his public persona it's far more likely it was a simple case of having one glass of wine too many with dinner rather than him stumbling out of a club after 15 tequila shots and getting behind the wheel. Not that that excuses him in any way, he still shouldn't drink and drive, but I'd find it odd if he was at the higher end of the scale and subsequently would warrant stricter punishments like curfews. Then again who knows.

Agreed, I'd be seriously surprised too. I'd like to think he genuinely thought he was under the limit.

 

[aussiespursguy]

What does 0.08 equate to in terms of how many drinks any given person can have?

About a pint an hour. Depends on your body really.
I know there are many crying for blood out there, however we do not know the full story.
I was a silly young fella once. Back when here in Australia we had a limit of 0.08 as well. I was pulled over at 2.30 in the morning heading home on a Thursday night after being out with the boys. I blew 0.084. Marginally over. I stupidly polished off a jack and coke very quickly before leaving. I honestly felt i was fine. The copper at the breatho station even said I was not really who they were out to catch!
Fact is I did the wrong thing. My judgement was poor.
That mistake in judgement cost me nearly $1000, 6 months no driving, and when i did get my licence back I had to have 'P" plates (for a driver older than 18 that usually means "pisshead" plates) for 12 months and could not drink whilst driving (so no mouthwash, medicine etc). I paid the price well. Did it teach me a lesson. Yes.
Hugo will learn from it but for crying out loud dont crucify the bloke.

 

[luRRka]

Not sure my standard advice is appropriate today.

Okay, he's come out with a suitably carefully worded apology reasonably quickly, which is the very least he should do.

Haven't read every post, but hate the word fact. As far as I can tell, the only "fact" is that he has been charged with drink driving.

So personally I'd like to wait until the circumstances (hopefully a better word) become public before condemning him.

When I used to drive, the one thing I could guarantee on a night out is that I'd be breathalysed. The first time I got breathalysed I'd read somewhere that washing one's mouth our repeatedly with water significantly reduced the results of a breathalyser and whilst I failed the roadside test and got taken back to the station, and failed the first test there, the second test whilst still marginally over the legal limit was in the zone where they don't prosecute. I got such a bollocking from my Dad that I didn't drink a drop of alcohol when driving from then on.

Another time I got pulled over on "routine" stops three times in two miles, by three different sets of Old Bill. And another time I got breathalysed on a "routine" stop with the justification from the OB that I'd pulled out of a junction too quickly, despite driving a clapped out and tuned down Metro, so it was impossible to pull out anywhere quickly.

Reason for mentioning the above is to give context as to circumstances. The above took place decades ago (I haven't driven in years, much to the wife's annoyance) and attitudes towards drink driving have changed significantly in that time, and there are different attitudes in different countries - surprised me how liberal people's attitudes to this were in South Africa when I used to go there a lot.

There's rumours he was 36 mcg, with the limit of 35 mcg. If true, surprised they are charging him, as certainly back in the day they wouldn't.

I'm not making excuses for him, I'm not condoning what he did, but I'd like to know more about the circumstances before making any judgements. Taking the captaincy away seems appropriate.

They wouldn't charge at 36mcg there is still leeway

 

[Bulletspur]

Well, I really don't think it makes him less of a footballer, and impacts his role on the field in any substantial way.

I agree that some players in the squad might lose a bit of respect for him, but I expect him to come out and explain himself, and obviously apologise thoroughly. Of course he won't be doing time in prison, so that's not even up for consideration.

He should of course be punished as per the law, just like any other person. But the club is his employer, and unless he has broken internal rules, then he shouldn't be punished by the club.

AFAIK Kane and Jan are also vice-captains, and I'd be happy with either taking over, but I really don't see why the club should publicly humiliate him.

This is crap. If I broke the law and even if I was punished appropriately by the state, my employers would take a very dim view of this and also take sanctions, where the severest could be even dismissal. To say the club should not punish is as I say is crap, pure and simple

 

[kaz Hirai]

From being on top of the world to now fretting over a year driving ban and or possibly jail time though that's unlikely.

Silly Billy, ludicrously rich person , he could've gotten taken home in a horse and carriage if he felt , gave away his car to someone and bought a fresh one after training and it wouldn't have made a dent in his finances

 

[Shadydan]

They wouldn't charge at 36mcg there is still leeway

I was 1 MCG under the limit when I was pulled over and the policeman said I was lucky not to get charged.

 

[ERO]

This is crap. If I broke the law and even if I was punished appropriately by the state, my employers would take a very dim view of this and also take sanctions, where the severest could be even dismissal. To say the club should not punish is as I say is crap, pure and simple

If you were charged with drink driving, would your employers even know?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Horrible situation he’s caused through his own stupid judgement, and he deserves to be severely punished, but he doesn’t deserve his life to be ruined over it. He deserves to be taught a big lesson but not one which destroys a lifetime of good behaviour and integrity.

 

[robertgoulet]

If you were charged with drink driving, would your employers even know?

As an employee I don't think anyone would say a word other than those I'm close with.

Now, if it happened and I was in a position of leadership (like Hugo being captain), it may be dealt with differently.

 

[luRRka]

I was 1 MCG under the limit when I was pulled over and the policeman said I was lucky not to get charged.

You are lucky you weren't charged. But regardless, there is leeway up to 39 micrograms. 40 is a charge

 

[Makkaveli101]

Sack him, get rid...let a bigger club than us sign him. Fuming that a world class goalkeeper was loyal to us since 2012 and made one mistake.

I wanna see Vorm start against Man Ure at Old Trafford because I can't wait to ridicule him for making a mistake and want to rejoin the debate about what mistake it was to ostracise our captain.

Bring it on. It can be like the 1990's again. Alan Sugar. I can't wait to be able to have more ammo to moan about the club.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Sack him, get rid...let a bigger club than us sign him. Fuming that a world class goalkeeper was loyal to us since 2012 and made one mistake.

I wanna see Vorm start against Man Ure at Old Trafford because I can't wait to ridicule him for making a mistake and want to rejoin the debate about what mistake it was to ostracise our captain.

Bring it on. It can be like the 1990's again. Alan Sugar. I can't wait to be able to have more ammo to moan about the club.

There’s that sarcasm again. Has anybody suggested we sack him, drop him, or sell him?

Or is it just people upset at somebody they respect making a really poor ethical decision?

I understand you defending him and wanting to deflect negativity away from the club. But we are all just fans of the club, that’s why we are on this forum in the first place, to discuss what happens at spurs. Read through the comments from other members on this post who have had their lives affected by drink driving if you want to understand why people are moaning.

 

[JCRD]

I never understood anyone who will only have just the one drink... like whats the point of that? Maybe for another thread etc but like WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

Really gutted. Don't think I've ever felt so proud of a Spurs player when I saw him lift the WC. I mean he even makes me genuinly support France when they play. France and a team with Giroud for god's sake.