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Ex-Player Watch Player watch: Jan Vertonghen

thebenjamin

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Most underrated player in the league. No one talks about him, but 8 out of 10 plus every game. Really improved his basic 'English' defending ie winning headers and physical duels, and comfortably the best CB on the ball in the Premier league. Arguably our second best player over the last 18 months behind H.
 

double0

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I must be in the minority as i can't stand Vertonghen coming forward trying to score imo he is too wasteful and holds onto the ball much to long.

Defensively though I must admit he has got better since Poch.
 

KILLA_SIN

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I must be in the minority as i can't stand Vertonghen coming forward trying to score imo he is too wasteful and holds onto the ball much to long.

Defensively though I must admit he has got better since Poch.

Played in Ali for the second goal yday. something I noticed was that yday even Toby made a couple of darts fwd and he has done that a couple of times this season. Sanchez, Aurier, Dier and Davies can a form a back four if Tony or Jan go Fwd
 

double0

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Played in Ali for the second goal yday. something I noticed was that yday even Toby made a couple of darts fwd and he has done that a couple of times this season. Sanchez, Aurier, Dier and Davies can a form a back four if Tony or Jan go Fwd


Personally I'd prefer our full backs doing the forward attacking play more and our C defender ie Vertonghen and Alderweireld the latter to a less extent defend and cover Sanchez, who I feel has been left to do a lot of the donkey defending.
 

agrdavidsfan

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The way he can feint and beat a man like he’s not even there is sensational

All our back 3 are also deceptively quick
 

Shadydan

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Personally I'd prefer our full backs doing the forward attacking play more and our C defender ie Vertonghen and Alderweireld the latter to a less extent defend and cover Sanchez, who I feel has been left to do a lot of the donkey defending.

Adds another dimension to our attack, as long as there's cover it can only be a good thing.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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My absolute favourite defender under all of Pochettino's time. Almost flawless. Vs. West Ham he almost made Davies completely redundant, it was like Vertonghen was CB and LWB in one. Maybe a thought we should exploit vs. Huddersfield.
 

dontsalebale

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My absolute favourite defender under all of Pochettino's time. Almost flawless. Vs. West Ham he almost made Davies completely redundant, it was like Vertonghen was CB and LWB in one. Maybe a thought we should exploit vs. Huddersfield.
I think Jan realises that Davis lacks pace and seems reluctant to run in to spaces as a result of this. So takes the bull by the horns and goes himself as a result of Davis reticience to be a wingback.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I think Jan realises that Davis lacks pace and seems reluctant to run in to spaces as a result of this. So takes the bull by the horns and goes himself as a result of Davis reticience to be a wingback.
Maybe? Then again, Davies did for instance score in the season opened after a successful run forward, so he isn't completely unfamiliar with the concept. And one could argue that it is a sensible sharing of work load between Davies and Vertonghen. Davies' presence allows Vertonghen to go forward and vice versa. But I can't help wonder whether it would be possible to field somebody else over Davies in certain games, a completely different player, given Vertonghens performance of late.
 

yido_number1

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I think Jan realises that Davis lacks pace and seems reluctant to run in to spaces as a result of this. So takes the bull by the horns and goes himself as a result of Davis reticience to be a wingback.

I don't think that's the case at all. It's clearly a team tactic that when the full backs are marked it creates a direct line for the L and R CB to run into. Toby has been receiving the ball in crossing positions outside the oppo's box all season. When teams are sitting back both have a license to alternate coming forwards.
 

yido_number1

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Maybe? Then again, Davies did for instance score in the season opened after a successful run forward, so he isn't completely unfamiliar with the concept. And one could argue that it is a sensible sharing of work load between Davies and Vertonghen. Davies' presence allows Vertonghen to go forward and vice versa. But I can't help wonder whether it would be possible to field somebody else over Davies in certain games, a completely different player, given Vertonghens performance of late.
Why when Davies is in the top 10 for chances created this year?
 

dontsalebale

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I don't think that's the case at all. It's clearly a team tactic that when the full backs are marked it creates a direct line for the L and R CB to run into. Toby has been receiving the ball in crossing positions outside the oppo's box all season. When teams are sitting back both have a license to alternate coming forwards.
The system we play means that the full backs are always the spare men. This is because the opposition have become overloaded by are four attackers. This is easier to see and enact when you have pace in these positions ala Rose and Walker of the last 2 seasons. Until Rose returns we will have to settle for Jan marauding.
 

dontsalebale

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I don't think that's the case at all. It's clearly a team tactic that when the full backs are marked it creates a direct line for the L and R CB to run into. Toby has been receiving the ball in crossing positions outside the oppo's box all season. When teams are sitting back both have a license to alternate coming forwards.
When we play against superior opposition I dont think your point will hold much water. We need the width and pace to enact our system. I dont think you can draw many conclusions when the opposition are Bus Parkers.
 

ryantegan

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Davinson Sanchez has opened the door for both Jan and Toby to exhibit their footballing skills again.

Given this licence you see how comfortable both are with the ball moving forward.

Best Defence I've ever seen at Spurs
 
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