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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

SteveH

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Trippier's biggest problem with fans is the guy playing on the other side of the pitch, Danny Rose.
Danny is a live wire and Tripps is a little more sanguine by comparison.
 

vegassd

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Aug 5, 2006
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Not sure you can blame Tripps for not crossing into the box at every opportunity. Poch admitted after the game that he wanted us to shoot from outside of the area to break the deadlock, hence why he was looking inside for the last half an hour. By all means dig him out for defensive mistakes etc, not for following a tactical plan which eventually won us the game.
I think this gets missed a lot when us fans think about Trippier. I've noticed a number of games where it seemed like he was following a very set game plan. So many times will we see a certain trigger (eg. defense wins ball and passes to the keeper) and Trippier will be sprinting up the pitch to take an offensive position as wide as possible.

He does make errors and he does try too much in the wrong areas sometimes (in my opinion) but I think the reason Poch appears to favour him is that he follows orders and puts in a shift. A lot of managers will prefer a player who does that over a player with slightly better technical ability but who doesn't follow the plan.

I reckon Trippier is quite similar to Dier in some respects; both unremarkable players that don't set the world alight, but are both very important pieces in a Poch system. They are missed more than they are appreciated.
 

sammyj

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The reason poch favours trippier is that he doesn't rate the other two, trippier is a defender who can't defend big Big trouble when you play top sides. Can't wait for him the be sold
 

Kiedis

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This was all so very predictable so why play Llorente?

Hard to tell, maybe to play passes off him like when Wanyama scored vs. Huddersfield. But we had huge trouble finding him and there was generally little movement around him from the other players. Plus, what were our alternatives? Janssen, Dier or one of three defenders? I guess we knew what Brighton would do and just piled on all the attackers.
 

kaz Hirai

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Nov 5, 2008
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The reason poch favours trippier is that he doesn't rate the other two, trippier is a defender who can't defend big Big trouble when you play top sides. Can't wait for him the be sold

Disagree, aurier has had injury issues all season, and poch has often played him CL over trip when fit
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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I seem to remember his crossing and abilitty to look in the box was supposed to be his sole redeeming quality? Wondering what happened to that
 

yankspurs

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We had little pace at all in midfield, certainly not defensively, which showed on the odd occasion when they broke.

They were set up to defend and counter and one of their main strengths as a side is in the air, Duffy's one of the best players in the league in the air and Dunk is no slouch. I swear to fuck some of you seem to know absolutely fuck all about football.
Irony(noun): the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
 

Neon_Knight_

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This was all so very predictable so why play Llorente?
Son upfront is most effective against teams that come out and attack us, so he can make runs into the space. Brighton were always going to sit back and defend, so having Llorente on to give more of a presence in the box for crosses and to hold up the ball and bring others into the game made sense. Unfortunately, Llorente's link up play was less good than it can be yesterday.
In turn, this allows Son, Moura and Alli to hang back more for cut backs etc.
 

Japhet

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Son upfront is most effective against teams that come out and attack us, so he can make runs into the space. Brighton were always going to sit back and defend, so having Llorente on to give more of a presence in the box for crosses and to hold up the ball and bring others into the game made sense. Unfortunately, Llorente's link up play was less good than it can be yesterday.
In turn, this allows Son, Moura and Alli to hang back more for cut backs etc.


Llorente's problem was that Brighton played so deep and rammed the area full of bodies that flick ons and knock downs had nowhere to go. When the crosses did come in they were not good enough (and Rose was as guilty as anybody in that respect). We've had similar problems when Kane was playing against teams that sit deep and clog everything up. There's no room behind for our pacy attackers and no room for the big strikers either.Thankfully we have Eriksen who can score from long range but we could do with some options who can do the same. I actually thought Janssen found a couple of pockets of space when he came on.
 

JimmyG2

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Llorente's problem was that Brighton played so deep and rammed the area full of bodies that flick ons and knock downs had nowhere to go. When the crosses did come in they were not good enough (and Rose was as guilty as anybody in that respect). We've had similar problems when Kane was playing against teams that sit deep and clog everything up. There's no room behind for our pacy attackers and no room for the big strikers either.Thankfully we have Eriksen who can score from long range but we could do with some options who can do the same. I actually thought Janssen found a couple of pockets of space when he came on.


Son upfront is most effective against teams that come out and attack us, so he can make runs into the space. Brighton were always going to sit back and defend, so having Llorente on to give more of a presence in the box for crosses and to hold up the ball and bring others into the game made sense. Unfortunately, Llorente's link up play was less good than it can be yesterday.
In turn, this allows Son, Moura and Alli to hang back more for cut backs etc.

Llorente's problem was that Brighton played so deep and rammed the area full of bodies that flick ons and knock downs had nowhere to go. When the crosses did come in they were not good enough (and Rose was as guilty as anybody in that respect). We've had similar problems when Kane was playing against teams that sit deep and clog everything up. There's no room behind for our pacy attackers and no room for the big strikers either.Thankfully we have Eriksen who can score from long range but we could do with some options who can do the same. I actually thought Janssen found a couple of pockets of space when he came on.[/QUOTE

Yes but when this plan, and it sounds like a plan
after say 20 minutes clearly wasn't going to work
we should have changed things round
put Moura up front say
to flabbergast them with his speed and trickery
he's good in tight spaces or Son
or brought Janssen on at half time.

In the end we won anyway
but next time
and there have been times in the past
and will be more in the future
we need to be more adaptable.
Winning, papers over the cracks here.

You can't pick a lock
with a battering ram.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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It's clear our tactics were to keep the ball to stretch Brighton and only to cross when we had little other option or men in the box with a chance of getting something on it and to have shots from outside the box, the only place where BHA afforded us any space.

Just throwing the ball in and surrendering possession was what Brighton wanted, we're a better footballing side than them, so outpass them. It's so hard for a team to remain concentrated when a team is all over them and I personally had faith that a chance would eventually come and go in.

Llorente was sandwiched between two big lads that are both very good in the air, why fucking waste the ball if there's nothing good on? Not to mention that some of the service to the width last night was pathetic, passes behind players, also far too slow to shift it at times

How did City do against them at home in a similar situation? 1-0 and they scored after 4 minutes.

Last night Trippier completed a higher % of crosses, had more passes leading to a shot than any Man City player and had a better pass completion than both their fullbacks, but yeah he's shite.



 

swarvsta

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@Paolo10 is the new @busconductor, but without as many meaningless stats to try to back up what the eyes can’t see.

Although I’m not sure even @Paolo10 would argue that Trips is better than Walker. That was just tiring. Not in the same league.

I hope to see a lot of improvement from Trippier if he manages to survive being sold. His home grown status might save him.
 

gavspur

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Surely playing Llorente and having Trips not cross, was just to cause confusion. A dummy to create space in the box/edge of.. Didn’t really work tho. He should have mixed it up, cross it, pull it back, etc etc.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Surely playing Llorente and having Trips not cross, was just to cause confusion. A dummy to create space in the box/edge of.. Didn’t really work tho. He should have mixed it up, cross it, pull it back, etc etc.


He absolutely should, but he could well have been following orders, which surely has to be the case because he (seemingly) wasn't pulled up by Poch, despite playing the same way throughout the entire match.

Same with Llorente, too.

I think there were very specific orders for what Poch knew would be a crazily 1 dimensional game, due to Brightons (understandable) defensive setup.
 
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