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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

E17yid

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Trippier lacks pace and strength. Great against lower table teams where we dominate and he doesn’t have to defend. As a result this thread will continue to be schizophrenic as a function of our opponent.

Aurier has yet to convince me. He doesn’t have Walker’s pace or physicality, albeit he is quicker and stronger than Trippier and a better footballer than Walker. His main issue is his defensive decision making, he regularly gets caught on the wrong side and has a worrying tendency to dive in recklessly.

I think our best bet is KWP, has Walker’s pace and seems to be a better footballer than Aurier.

Perhaps, though I think a lot of Aurier’s problem is the same for a lot of youngish foreign players, they need time to adapt, both physically and mentally, to the speed and physicality of the EPL.

I do think that Walkers footballing ability and brain are criminally underrated on here, though. I don’t think Guardiola would have made him his number 1 choice at RB if he thought he was thick as shit. I also don’t think he would’ve slotted in there like he has, so quickly, if he had little footballing ability and was slow on the uptake.

Not against KWP, though, and I agree re Trippier.
 

rossdapep

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I like Trippier. He does have a lot of qualities and he really lacked protection yesterday.

That being said, he doesn't have the ability to bomb up and down to support attacks and recover and it is hurting us in an attacking way and a defensive way.

I think if you play trip against the big teams you need Sissoko to play in front and protect.
 

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People seem shocked that he couldn't match the fastest player in premier league history for pace. I'm more shocked that we didn't have a plan to not leave him isolated against Sane.

We lost to the best (and coincidentally richest) side in the league, the reaction is absurd. Trippier is still an excellent right back.
 

Hercules

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People seem shocked that he couldn't match the fastest player in premier league history for pace. I'm more shocked that we didn't have a plan to not leave him isolated against Sane.

We lost to the best (and coincidentally richest) side in the league, the reaction is absurd. Trippier is still an excellent right back.
Credentials for FB’s HAS to be pace! And he has none I’m afraid. He is always earmarked as the weakness in our defence for oppositions, and that comes from a coach of a EPL side. Aside from that his distribution was absolutely shambolic to say the least. I believe KWP/Aurier are superior players, with weaknesses that will disappear as they gain experience.
 
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adamsky

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He visibly crumbled yesterday when Sane first went past him. He looked terrified and it effected all parts of his game from that point on, it was hard to watch. However, I have no idea how Poch watched what we all saw and made no adjustments, personnel or tactics wise, to react to it. Wasn’t far off negligence.
Have been and remain a huge Poch fan but he rates as bad as any player did for yesterday’s performance. He had a shocker.
 

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He visibly crumbled yesterday when Sane first went past him. He looked terrified and it effected all parts of his game from that point on, it was hard to watch. However, I have no idea how Poch watched what we all saw and made no adjustments, personnel or tactics wise, to react to it. Wasn’t far off negligence.
Have been and remain a huge Poch fan but he rates as bad as any player did for yesterday’s performance. He had a shocker.

For the match itself, yes Poch left Trips out to dry. Maybe he left him on to test rather than embarass him ala Klopp and Lovren?

If he comes back from that performance to play in the World Cup then hat's off to him because to see England's supposed 2nd choice RWB absolutely embarassed by Germamy's LW was brutal. You could tell Dier had no confidence in Trippier to do his job next to him.

I want him to play Burnley, he's going to need some backing after that shocker.
 

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For the match itself, yes Poch left Trips out to dry. Maybe he left him on to test rather than embarass him ala Klopp and Lovren?

If he comes back from that performance to play in the World Cup then hat's off to him because to see England's supposed 2nd choice RWB absolutely embarassed by Germamy's LW was brutal. You could tell Dier had no confidence in Trippier to do his job next to him.

I want him to play Burnley, he's going to need some backing after that shocker.
He will no doubt want to play against his old mates, but unfortunately he saves his worst games for when we play Burnley.

We should not write him off quite yet - he certainly would not have been so exposed against city if we had played a back 3.

Basically he's a wing back not a full back - hopefully MP has learned a lesson.
 

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Credentials for FB’s HAS to be pace! And he has none I’m afraid. He is always earmarked as the weakness in our defence for oppositions, and that comes from a coach of a EPL side. Aside from that his distribution was absolutely shambolic to say the least. I believe KWP/Aurier are superior players, with weaknesses that will disappear as they gain experience.


If that's the case, your PL coach mate hasn't passed on the info to his mates because they aren't doing a very good job, Last season our league record with Trippier was was:

WWWWW F21 A3

This season it's

LDWDWWWWWWLDDWL

And I can't think of too many of those games where Trippier cost us the points. Those three defeats were at home to Chelsea and away to Arsenal and ManC.

Kyle Walker was culpable in the 6-0 slabbing we got up there a couple of years ago, so Trippier's in good company.

Trippier doesn't have lightning pace, and I definitely don't think he's a better defender than Walker, but it's not like he's fucking Corluka is it. And he's certainly contributed more to our attack than Walker did, he beat his assist total in a third of the games last year, and for a side that plays 3CB's that's definitely more important, so even if his pace has cost us something, his attacking contribution is definitely covering the debit column for now.

I've said all along that I think KWP has the potential to be better than all them, Walker included, but lets not pretend Trippier is this massive liability, he didn't look that way when we were mullering Real Madrid and he was up against the best LB in the world, as well as a quite well known No.7, or when we were slabbing Liverpool in our best league performance of the season.
 
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Trippier can be a useful player but Poch has to understand his limitations. It’s not his fault he got matched up with a player he doesn’t have the athletic ability to handle. He should never even be on the bench vs. Liverpool, City, Juve, United, etc. He’s not physically able to compete with athletes at that level. He should be starting vs. West Brom, Brighton, Stoke, etc. He offers more than Aurier in those matches against teams that sit deep and are far less talented than we are. It’s not rocket science. Everybody in this forum could look at our remaining schedule and tell you what RB should be starting that game. I have no idea why Poch seemingly can’t figure it out.
 

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Trippier can be a useful player but Poch has to understand his limitations. It’s not his fault he got matched up with a player he doesn’t have the athletic ability to handle. He should never even be on the bench vs. Liverpool, City, Juve, United, etc. He’s not physically able to compete with athletes at that level. He should be starting vs. West Brom, Brighton, Stoke, etc. He offers more than Aurier in those matches against teams that sit deep and are far less talented than we are. It’s not rocket science. Everybody in this forum could look at our remaining schedule and tell you what RB should be starting that game. I have no idea why Poch seemingly can’t figure it out.

That said he was one of the best players on the pitch against Real Madrid.
 

Spurrific

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People seem shocked that he couldn't match the fastest player in premier league history for pace. I'm more shocked that we didn't have a plan to not leave him isolated against Sane.

We lost to the best (and coincidentally richest) side in the league, the reaction is absurd. Trippier is still an excellent right back.

So because he's nowhere near as fast as his winger, we just have to concede that he won't be able to adequately defend against him? Maybe he should position himself better, though obviously some of that comes down to Poch's instructions.

Excellent at what, other than crossing? Genuinely interested to read why people rate him so highly as a full-back. He's not excellent defensively and he seems to struggle big time not playing next to three dedicated centre backs. He can cross, but his positioning is worse than Walker's ever was.

IMO, we should sell him in January if we can get a reasonable fee and promote KWP. KWP's performance against Newcastle was a better all-round full-back performance than anything I remember seeing from Trippier since he's been here.

His crossing is phenomenal fwiw and I do actually now agree that he shits over Walker in an attacking sense.
 

Riandor

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That said he was one of the best players on the pitch against Real Madrid.
We also played 3 at the back vs Real Madrid.
I think that's the key here, against top opposition, I am remain skeptical with regards to Trippier in a standard back 4. Agree with others that against weaker opposition, his crossing etc... is more useful than Aurier's athleticism. Easier to say in hindsight, but I was a little surprised that Aurier was not earmarked to deal with Sane, after all, Poch essentially earmarked Rose to deal with Sterling's pace.

There was farrrrr too much space on our right flank for City to exploit.

But it's one game and as long as we beat Burnley, we can move on and forget about it. No one is catching City this season, focus on top 4.
 

Kiedis

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Trippier has his faults, no doubt about that. When we're not collectively good defensively, he really struggles.

But he's very intelligent when it comes to attacking, and has a pretty decent eye for a pass. As for his crossing, it's a tad overrated as an attacking weapon. Our game is not geared towards crossing, and we generally don't have more than one target in the box for those crosses that's lifted in.

His main asset is the first time volley crosses across the goal on the rare occasions where we manage to play him in behind the back line (see Allis goal against Real Madrid and one of Kanes against Hull last season).
 

SpursDave88

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Walker got himself skanked by Grey and gave a penalty away tonight. Perhaps City need a quicker RB ?

BC, you're as bad as Harry Redknapp in terms of favouritism. Let it go! Consensus is whilst Trippier has a decent cross on him, he is an inferior player to Walker, because he is slower, weaker, less athletic and worse defensively. One bad game from Walker isn't the same as Trippier getting consistently roasted.

I think people have generally formed their opinions and it will take consistently good defensive performance from Trippier to change people's opinions.
 

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BC, you're as bad as Harry Redknapp in terms of favouritism. Let it go! Consensus is whilst Trippier has a decent cross on him, he is an inferior player to Walker, because he is slower, weaker, less athletic and worse defensively. One bad game from Walker isn't the same as Trippier getting consistently roasted.

I think people have generally formed their opinions and it will take consistently good defensive performance from Trippier to change people's opinions.


You're as bad as Sherwood when it comes to talking shite. Trippier doesn't get continually roasted. Even against Sane he only got roasted once properly.

The point I'm making is everyone seems to massively over play Walker's attributes and massively overplay Trippier's weaknesses, Walker still gets skanked by players, he did tonight, and he did by players like Bolasi and Zaha, just liked Trippier did by Sane. But it's not a regular occurrence, Trippier's inferior (to Walker) pace and physique has cost us virtually nothing in real terms, in terms of performances and results. And Walker's deficiencies have cost us (and ManC) stuff as well. The only PL points ManC have dropped all season were the game Walker got himself stupidly sent off.

Everyone keep going on about "pace" and "Physique" but harder to quantify is the advantage of Intelligence and composure, both of which trippier has more of than Walker.
 

THFCSPURS19

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IMO, we should sell him in January if we can get a reasonable fee and promote KWP. KWP's performance against Newcastle was a better all-round full-back performance than anything I remember seeing from Trippier since he's been here.
I'd say Trippier's performance against Real Madrid - got an assist, probably should've got at least one more (I remember 2 more great crosses from him - including Alli's missed sitter), and we were very strong defensively.
 

Spurrific

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I'd say Trippier's performance against Real Madrid - got an assist, probably should've got at least one more (I remember 2 more great crosses from him - including Alli's missed sitter), and we were very strong defensively.

Had 3 CBs though, he looks abysmal in a back 4, imo.
 
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